Hang On To Your Hat

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Dads comparing notes on lockdown, grief and keeping the peace.

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Hang On To Your Hat gets fathers talking through the harder stretches of the job: tempers fraying in lockdown, creative plans abandoned, and grief. In the 'Dads In Lockdown' episodes, Derek Myers talks with guests such as Paul McIntosh and Adam White, and in a Christmas special he looks back on the year with Dan Lee.

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About Hang On To Your Hat

Hang On To Your Hat is a fatherhood show built on conversations between dads, and its strongest moments come when someone simply says how hard a stretch has been. The intro does a lot of work. A voice announces 'you're a naughty boy', and a spoken opening lists the fear, the anger, the confusion and the love of being a modern dad before promising that nobody is in it alone. Derek Myers and Dan Lee are the two names in that opening. The vocabulary is easygoing, all 'blokes', 'mate' and 'stoked', and the talk drifts and doubles back the way it does between friends. The 'Dads In Lockdown' episodes are recorded remotely, in what one intro calls the space studio, or the ether. Adam White calls in from a quarantine hotel in Sydney, and the talk moves to school at home, including a grade-six child who stepped up when a parent was not there to help. Pete Richards describes the friction of a regional lockdown, the need to own his tension when things got heated, and the value of having someone to call for a different perspective. Brooke Penrose, introduced as a musician, artist and studio operator, mentions a friend's jibe that he goes to the toilet just to check his phone. The conversation then gets more honest about creative plans giving way to getting through each day. It is a small, unguarded moment. Paul McIntosh, a father of two with a PhD, brings something more hands-on. Drawing on ACT psychology, he maps what a family values below a line and visible behaviour above it, with a little camera marking what other people could actually see. Off to one side sit the moments that pull a person away from a goal, the feeling of being 'hooked', illustrated with chocolate cake and applied to something as ordinary as quality screen time. Grief runs through other conversations. With Daniel Donahoo, billed in an episode title as an author, speaker and father of four, the talk turns to friends in their late forties who chose to keep speaking about someone who had died rather than hold a funeral and move on, with a nod to a letter Nick Cave answered about loss. The Christmas special, 'And So This IS Christmas - Derek And Dan Reflect On The Year's Guests', has the pair singing and joking about beer before they look back. They single out Warwick, a guest with adult children, and a guest who talked about a long illness with a candour and acceptance that one of them calls extraordinary. For a technique to try at home, the Paul McIntosh conversation is the natural starting point. For the rhythm of Derek and Dan together, the Christmas look-back shows it best.

Made for: Suits a listener who is raising kids, or about to, and would rather hear other fathers admit to short tempers, stalled plans and grief than get a list of tips, though one guest does bring a technique worth trying.

What sets it apart: Its guests speak from inside specific pressures, such as a quarantine hotel, a regional lockdown or a loss, so the show plays as a record of fathering through hard stretches rather than general advice. It also puts a practical, diagram-based ACT approach right alongside plain confession.

In their own words

Join Derek Myers, Dan Lee and their many guests as they discuss fatherhood. Our parenting conversations are sometimes funny, sometimes scary and sometimes sad.. just like every day of being a father in the modern world. Dads - you are not alone.

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A placenta in a yoghurt container: your cue to expect Derek Myers and Dan Lee's unvarnished dad talk.

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  • to hear teenage scowls discussed by a dad whose boys are now adults
  • room for a father's grief without anyone rushing toward a silver lining
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Dads In Lockdown - Pete Richards - Regional Lockdown and keeping the peaceJan 16, 2021

A candid conversation about parenting, pressure, and learning to keep the peace during Victoria's lockdowns.

Lockdown turns into a family pressure test in this conversation with Pete Richards, framed by regional life, a business under strain, parenting an only child, and Victoria's lockdowns.

Dads In Lockdown - Brooke Penrose - Staying Creative at home with kidsJan 14, 2021

Brooke Penrose grounds lockdown fatherhood in illness, broken routines, dark humor, and the strain of trying to keep creating.

Lockdown makes fatherhood feel less like a theme than a daily endurance test, and Brooke Penrose gives that pressure a lived-in scale. As a musician, artist, studio operator, and dad, he talks through a brutal run of timing: his son had only just moved from childcare into a new…

Dads In Lockdown - Hotel Quarantine With Adam WhiteJul 25, 2020

A relaxed quarantine conversation about remote schooling, missing hugs, and the domestic details that keep fatherhood close.

Adam White talks from a quarantine hotel in Sydney about fatherhood held at an odd remove. His children are schooling from one of his studios, with a grade six child taking on more responsibility while the family juggles video calls, work, and the missing comfort of everyday…

And So This IS Christmas - Derek And Dan Reflect On The Year's GuestsDec 18, 2019

A loose Christmas finale finds real weight in a year of conversations about fatherhood and regret.

Hang On To Your Hat closes 2019 by circling back through the guests and conversations that shaped its year, from Genesis or Metamorphosis to talk of illness, fatherhood, and the regrets that can trail a demanding career.

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    Dads In Lockdown - Paul McIntosh - using ACT psychology to negotiate with kids

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    Hang On To Your Hat talks with Paul McIntosh about using the ACT matrix to negotiate children's screen time.

    Jan 19, 2021·1h·4 clips
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    Dads In Lockdown - Pete Richards - Regional Lockdown and keeping the peace

    Hidden gem

    ["Pete Richards, a Castlemaine hairdresser on Hang On To Your Hat's \"Dads in Lockdown\" series, talks about running Circus Hair through Victoria's shutdowns while caring for Estella at home.", "He says the first lockdown hit harder than the second because he had to close the shop, rely on JobKeeper, and make a bubble around his daughter while Katie kept working for council.", "The conversation gets practical fast: Pete describes homeschooling, small-house friction, and the moment he realized a few minutes outside can reset Estella after screen time.", "The episode's central takeaway is Pete's counsellor-driven numbering system, where arguments that feel like \"five\" are actually \"eight\" or \"nine\" and need cooling off before anyone talks."]

    Jan 16, 2021·54m·4 clips
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    Dads In Lockdown - Brooke Penrose - Staying Creative at home with kids

    Hidden gem

    Hang On To Your Hat's 'Dad's in Lockdown' episode with Brooke Penrose centers on fatherhood, home work, and creativity during COVID restrictions.

    Jan 14, 2021·1h 3m·4 clips
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    Dads In Lockdown - Hotel Quarantine With Adam White

    Hidden gem

    ["Hang On To Your Hat's Dads In Lockdown special opens with Adam White calling from the Sofitel Wentworth in Sydney while he serves 14-day hotel isolation after returning from the UK.", "He says two Melbourne flights were cancelled, he bought a business-class seat to Sydney, and police, nurses, and army personnel escorted him from the airport into quarantine.", "Adam talks about leaving Australia because his mother was gravely ill, losing her while he was away, and keeping daily FaceTime contact with his children through school closures and homeschooling.", "The conversation turns to Melbourne's outbreak, a throat-and-nostril COVID test, and his view that Boris Johnson, Trump, and other leaders should listen to health professionals."]

    Jul 25, 2020·39m·3 clips
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    And So This IS Christmas - Derek And Dan Reflect On The Year's Guests

    Hidden gem

    ["Hang On To Your Hat's 2019 Christmas special has Eric Myers and Dan Lee revisiting a year of fatherhood talk, from the first episode Genesis or Metamorphosis to the later guest run.", "They debate Santa, with one line making the case that children should not give all their gratitude to a mythical gift-giver, and they describe a nine-year-old being grinched at school.", "The recap pulls in Scott Edgar's warning that social media could be the thalidomide of our generation, Sean's donor-conception discussion, and Jeff Richie\u2019s home birth in a blow-up pool.", "Daniel Donahue and Anthony Breslin bring the hardest material, talking about a child's death, long-term illness, mortality, and the regret tradeoffs that shape parenting."]

    Dec 18, 2019·1h 6m·5 clips
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    Daniel Donahoo: Author, Speaker And Father Of Four.

    Hidden gem

    Dan Donoghue discusses fatherhood after his son Collier died from an aneurysm and brain bleed following two weeks in intensive care.

    Nov 22, 2019·1h 24m·5 clips
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    Warwick Field: Cinematographer And Father Of Two Adult Boys.

    Hidden gem

    Hang On To Your Hat interviews cinematographer Warwick Field about raising Chris, 32, and Dylan, 19, after separating from both of their mothers.

    Nov 13, 2019·1h 12m·5 clips
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    Geoff "Ritchie" Baldwin: Motorcycle Journalist, Blogger, Dad.

    Hidden gem

    Geoff “Ritchie” Baldwin tells Derek Myers and Dan Lee about Asha’s planned home birth, including 18 hours of labour and roughly 10 hours in a birthing pool.

    Nov 2, 2019·1h 10m·5 clips
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    Anthony Breslin: Painter, Performer, Survivor, Father.

    Hidden gem

    Anthony Breslin discusses his career as a painter, including a Myers project that produced 100 paintings in one week and raised $24,000 for TLC for Kids.

    Oct 26, 2019·1h 9m·5 clips
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    Terry Lee: Professor Of Leadership Psychology, Father And Grandfather.

    Hidden gem

    Episode 31 of Hang On To Your Hat reunites Derek Myers and Dan Lee with Terry Lee, whose work in leadership psychology frames a discussion of fatherhood, learning, motivation, and attention.

    Oct 16, 2019·1h 22m·5 clips
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    Grumpy Old Sick Men On The School Holidays

    Oct 2, 2019·20m
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    Uncle Jack Charles- National Treasure, Respected Elder, Grandfather Of Aboriginal Theatre, Father To All Who Need Him.

    Sep 26, 2019·1h 6m
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    Nick Kirk - Personal Trainer And Father Of Two.

    Sep 20, 2019·1h 9m
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    Jayden Sheridan - Founder Of Yeah Gnar Skate Brand, Father At 17

    Sep 11, 2019·1h 5m
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    Hugh Van Cuylenburg: Resilience Project Founder And Father.

    Sep 4, 2019·59m
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    Greg Quicke: Astronomer, Motorcycle Mystic, Father.

    Aug 28, 2019·1h 36m
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    Mark Jones- Documentarian, Storyteller, Spiritual Adventurer And Father Of Two.

    Aug 22, 2019·1h 59m
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    Geoff Ritchie Baldwin - Soon To Be A Dad

    Aug 19, 2019·48m
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    James Brown - Pearl Farmer, Biologist And Father Of Four... Almost.

    Aug 14, 2019·1h 23m
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    Dave Mann- Travelling Musicians, House-trucks, Veggie Oil And Kids

    Aug 7, 2019·1h 9m
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    Richard Bradley - Base Jumping, Global Adventure And Kids

    Jul 31, 2019·1h 42m
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    Andrew Eagleton: Rogue Bulls, Crocodiles And Kids

    Jul 24, 2019·1h 19m
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    Chris Hoare - Plumber, Drummer, Father Of Two

    Jul 18, 2019·1h 32m
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    Wil Thomas - Farewelling Your Father

    Jul 11, 2019·52m
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    Jeff Barry - Bonsai Guy - Father

    Jul 4, 2019·1h 14m
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    Bob Flower, Stone Mason, Three Grown Kids And Off To Mexico!

    Jun 27, 2019·1h 8m
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    Paul McIntosh -Phd, Father Of Two.

    Jun 20, 2019·1h 16m
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    Terry Lee - Psychologist, Father Of Two, Grandfather Of Four.

    Jun 13, 2019·1h 14m
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    Tuffy Returns - Ben Lee, Father Of Two

    Jun 6, 2019·1h 13m
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    Tommy Jackett - Podcaster, Father Of One

    May 31, 2019·1h 11m
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    Mantra MC - Full Time Rapper - Father Of One

    May 24, 2019·1h 19m
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    Pip Norman- Father Of Two, Mc From TZU

    May 16, 2019·1h 7m
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    Jason Honrado - Father Of Three

    May 9, 2019·1h 33m
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    Ben Tuffy Lee

    May 2, 2019·1h 14m
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    Bonus Anzac Day Recap Episode

    Apr 28, 2019·36m
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    Brett Cousins, Father Of Two

    Apr 25, 2019·1h 11m
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    Dr Chris Higgins - Missy's Dad

    A podcast about the highs and lows of modern fatherhood, featuring conversations with guests to support dads.

    Apr 18, 2019·1h 10m
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    Sean M Whelan. Poet, Son And Sperm Donor

    Apr 11, 2019·1h 5m
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    Scott Edgar - Father Of One

    Apr 4, 2019·1h 41m
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    Genesis Or Metamorphosis

    Feb 28, 2019·1h 29m