Young Heretics

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Great books, closely and joyfully read.

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Young Heretics treats old books as living arguments, moving from Dante and Virgil to Advent liturgy and reading habits. It suits listeners who like close textual attention with jokes, theological context, and a teacherly pace.

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About Young Heretics

Young Heretics is a show about reading as a disciplined pleasure. It treats classical and Christian texts as works to be entered, argued with, and reread, not as museum pieces. Recent episodes spend long, affectionate stretches with Dante’s Inferno and Virgil’s Aeneid. The pace can slow almost comically. One canto, one tercet, one symbolic beast can open into a whole discussion of allegory, sin, medieval interpretation, and the strange precision of poetic form. Then the show speeds up with a joke, a personal aside, or a reference pulled from internet culture. That mix is the point. Young Heretics is learned without sounding sealed off from ordinary life. It can talk about terza rima, translation, the Trinity, Good Friday, the O antiphons, Old English, and the liturgical calendar, then pivot to book lists, scrolling, travel, Twitter arguments, or a Super Mario gag. The literary attention is sincere. Virgil is approached as an artist of structure, prophecy, memory, and political moment, not as a set of exam notes. Dante’s images are treated as bounded but abundant symbols, capable of supporting several readings without meaning anything at all. The show also returns often to the practice of reading itself. Books are not framed as status objects; they are habits, disciplines, and sources of refreshment. Its best moments feel like sitting near a crowded bookshelf with someone who cannot quite stop noticing how much is packed into a single line. The result is classical education with momentum, humor, and a strong sense that old poems still press on modern life.

Made for: For listeners drawn to Dante, Virgil, Christian symbolism, ancient languages, and the practical work of building a reading life. It especially fits people who want serious close reading without academic stiffness.

What sets it apart: The show pairs granular literary analysis with casual, contemporary comic energy. It lingers over form, translation, theology, and symbolism while keeping the room conversational.

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The classical education you never knew you were missing. Join scholar and writer Spencer Klavan on a tour through the great works of the West. In a world gone mad, we're not alone: the great men and women who went before us have wisdom to guide us. With their help, we can recover truth, beauty, and the stuff that matters.

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Dante's beasts become a full interpretive ecosystem before Spencer Klavan lets you leave the dark wood.

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  • to watch Dante's beasts support competing interpretations without collapsing into one answer
  • someone to connect Enigma, AI, and translation while keeping their differences intact
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Dante's Inferno, Episode 2: The Poet and the BeastsApr 17, 2026

Young Heretics lingers with the three beasts in Dante's first canto.

Young Heretics spends time with the leopard, lion and wolf that confront Dante's pilgrim. The host considers the familiar pairing of the beasts with lust, pride and avarice, then tries other ways of grouping sinful attitudes.

THE PROPHECY HAS BEEN FULFILLEDSep 15, 2025

A fulfilled prophecy raises a question about whose voice Aeneas chooses to remember.

Young Heretics follows a familiar internet line back toward Virgil's Aeneid, where a fulfilled prophecy brings up a curious discrepancy. Aeneas credits his dead father with a warning that, according to the host, came from a harpy.

Cracking the Code: What Bitcoin and Quantum Cryptography have to do with Kabbalah and AI (Words, Words, Words 23)

An encrypted greeting leads the host from Enigma to the human work of translation.

A listener asks about writing meant to conceal its meaning, and the host uses an encrypted greeting to ask where decoding ends and translation begins.

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    Cracking the Code: What Bitcoin and Quantum Cryptography have to do with Kabbalah and AI (Words, Words, Words 23)

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