Try/Catch

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An ag lender's developers talk innovation and leadership

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Try/Catch puts application developers at Farm Credit Services of America in conversation with coworkers and invited guests. A run of episodes forms a multi-part series with the organization's innovation managers on where ideas come from, how value gets measured and how startup partnerships work, and a separate episode talks leadership with Todd Campbell.

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Try/Catch is an in-house podcast from Farm Credit Services of America. The organization's own developers host it, and it is built on conversations with the people they work alongside. That origin shapes the show. When the subject is innovation, the voices belong to the innovation managers who do that work. When the subject is rural investment, the conversation turns to how those commitments get underwritten. A run of episodes forms a connected series on innovation, hosted by application developer Sydney Andreessen with innovation managers Amy, Dane and Michael Jarrow. Sydney mostly plays the curious questioner, handing the floor to the specialists and admitting on air to having learned a lot. The ground covered is practical. One discussion works through how to judge whether an experiment is producing value. The first measure is time saved, such as trimming an hour of data entry to thirty or twenty minutes. Later, as a prototype grows into a business, the measures become revenue, returning customers, customers leaving and lifetime value. Another conversation looks for ideas well outside agriculture. Gamified fitness and virtual reality come up as unlikely sources, and the team asks what they could mean for an organization on the finance side of ag. Competitors such as community banks come up too, as possible partners or co-builders. Zach Macklin joins for an episode on the Rural Business Investment Program. Its most useful point is that committing money to an equity fund is underwritten very differently from assessing a prospective customer's creditworthiness, and that closing a fund investment can take anywhere from six months to two years. The effect of those investments on rural communities comes up as well. Partnerships get their own hearing. The innovation managers describe accelerators that put startups in front of potential customers, and startups that pivot mid-year once they see their original solution is not what partners need. The Combine, a Lincoln, Nebraska incubator focused on Nebraska-based startups, is one named example. A trends episode follows the long evolution of automation, from massive scale down to tiny and electronic scale, and how it will affect both the organization's own work and the producers it serves. Outside the series, developers Shane Fitch and Natalie Gerdes talk about leadership in IT with Todd Campbell, whom they met at the AIM Emerging Leader Academy, where Campbell was a facilitator, instructor and mentor. Campbell recalls starting with a computer science degree and developer work, then finding that the problem solving appealed more than sitting behind a screen coding in Java, C or C#. The tone throughout is friendly and conversational, like coworkers who know each other. A good place to start is 'Innovation: What is it and how to think about it?', where the innovation team introduces itself. The later episodes in the series keep sending listeners back to the earlier ones.

Made for: Suits a listener who works in or around software, finance or agriculture and wants to hear how an ag finance organization finds ideas, measures experiments and partners with startups. It also suits developers thinking about a move toward leadership.

What sets it apart: The show looks at technology and innovation from inside an ag finance organization, with its own developers interviewing colleagues about the organization's innovation, investment and partnership work. That puts specific subjects like the Rural Business Investment Program and a Nebraska startup incubator next to broader talk about ideas and leadership.

In their own words

Conversations and experiments on the messy business of making software, brought to you by ei2, the Experiment Invent Inspire group from AppDev at Farm Credit Services of America

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Satellite cow counts sound like a joke until you're asked to appraise 25,000 cattle.

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  • to see how a startup's satellite images could spare you a manual cow count
  • to follow Sydney Andreessen's questions about where useful ideas come from
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Innovation: Leveraging PartnershipsJul 17, 2025

Partnerships feel concrete when Bovi's satellite imagery turns feed-yard cow counts into a practical innovation case.

Try/Catch looks at how innovation managers turn partnerships into practical paths for finding problems, learning from startups, and testing ideas inside an organization.

Innovation: Trends from Today’s WorldApr 30, 2025

A practical look at how automation and digital tools are speeding disruption across agriculture, technology, and finance.

Try/Catch treats innovation as a moving system, not a lone bright idea. Host Sydney Andreessen brings innovation managers Dane Braun and Michael Jarrow back into the conversation to trace how change travels through agriculture, technology, and finance.

Innovating through the Rural Business Investment ProgramJan 30, 2025

A grounded review of how rural investment funds connect capital to healthcare access, broadband connectivity, and local economic activity.

Try/Catch gives the Rural Business Investment Program a practical frame by following Zach Macklin through the work behind it. Macklin, an Omaha-based equity portfolio manager, explains how the program makes primary fund commitments and why underwriting a fund investment can take…

Innovation: How to Generate Promising IdeasDec 20, 2024

A grounded look at how outside trends and competitor signals can become ideas an organization can actually use.

Try/Catch gives innovation a practical frame: where useful ideas come from, how teams collect them, and how those ideas get tested against problems worth solving.

Innovation: What is it and how to think about it?Nov 14, 2024

A practical roundtable links innovation to measurable value across agriculture, finance, technology, and rural America.

Try/Catch treats innovation less as a buzzword than as a working practice. Sydney Andreessen leads a roundtable with Strategy and Innovation teammates from Farm Credit Services of America, AgCountry, and Frontier Farm Credit, and the episode tracks the path from finding ideas to…

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    Innovation: Leveraging Partnerships

    Hidden gem

    Try/Catch’s “Innovation: Leveraging Partnerships” centers on how Amy and Dane use outside networks to activate ideas because “we can’t do it all.” Plug and Play gets the most detail: a Silicon Valley headquarters, a Topeka, Kansas office for AgTech and Animal Health, a no-equity accelerator, and a process that can narrow hundreds of startups to 10–15 companies.

    Jul 17, 2025·27m·1 clip
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    Innovation: Trends from Today’s World

    Hidden gem

    Try/Catch’s “Innovation: Trends from Today’s World” focuses on three trends the team is tracking: the rise of the generalist, evolving automation, and the acceleration of disruption.

    Apr 30, 2025·24m·1 clip
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    Innovating through the Rural Business Investment Program

    Hidden gem

    Try/Catch’s RBIP episode with Zach Macklin explains how the USDA-backed Rural Business Investment Program lets licensed RBICs raise capital from farm credit institutions and other investors for rural small businesses.

    Jan 30, 2025·23m·1 clip
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    Innovation: How to Generate Promising Ideas

    Hidden gem

    Try/Catch’s “Innovation: How to Generate Promising Ideas” centers on Michael Andreessen, Amy, and Dane explaining how Farm Credit filters ideas through strategy, culture, and customer value.

    Dec 20, 2024·21m·1 clip
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    Innovation: What is it and how to think about it?

    Hidden gem

    Try/Catch brings together Sydney Andreessen, Michael Jarrow, Amy Wagner, Zach Macklin, and Dane Braun from Farm Credit Services of America, AgCountry, and Frontier Farm Credit to define innovation through strategy, collaboration, and measurable value.

    Nov 14, 2024·43m·2 clips
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    On the Street: 2024 Interns

    Nov 1, 2024·5m
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    Back to School Series: Ryan Wittler

    Jun 12, 2024·12m
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    Back to School Series: Parry Briggs

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    Perry Briggs, a Farm Credit lending leader, completed Kansas State's hybrid Master's of Agribusiness while balancing work, family, and coaching his children's sports.

    Jun 6, 2024·19m·1 clip
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    Back to School Series: Chris Sommers

    May 30, 2024·15m
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    Back to School Series: Kyle Perry

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    May 15, 2024·14m
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    Back to School Series: Jane McComas

    May 8, 2024·24m
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    Back to School Series: Ted Kaufman

    May 1, 2024·23m
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    Apr 19, 2024·53m
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    Sep 19, 2023·1h
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    How to Absolutely Suck at De-Prioritizing Yourself Within Your Work Day

    Aug 24, 2023·1h 3m
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    How to Meditate in 60 Seconds

    Aug 24, 2023·5m
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    Women in Technology: How to Future Ready Your Career

    Feb 21, 2023·57m
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    Feb 21, 2023·47m
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    Women in Technology: Why There is a Disparity and How We Can Narrow the Gap

    Dec 12, 2022·42m
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    Leadership in IT with Todd Campbell

    Hosts Shane and Natalie interview Todd Campbell about leadership in the technology industry.

    May 3, 2022·58m
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    UX Design: Questions Answered

    Mar 30, 2022·32m
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    Production Issues: Cross-Team Collaboration

    Feb 15, 2022·38m
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    Derisking Digitalization in Product Management

    Oct 19, 2020·39m
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    Aligning Strategy with Architecture

    Aug 31, 2020·41m
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    Where to Store Data with Brent Ozar

    Aug 3, 2020·19m
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    Personal User Security with Serge Borso

    Jul 9, 2020·31m
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    Modernizing and Maturing Data Capabilities

    Mar 30, 2020·30m
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    Utilizing Technology in Customer Education

    Mar 9, 2020·25m
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    API First

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    Product Management: Outcome Focused Decision Making

    Dec 11, 2019·38m
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    Design Systems with Nathan Curtis

    Sep 20, 2019·29m
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    Test Chambers 02: 2019 Intern Finale

    Aug 13, 2019·18m
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    Diversity, Inclusion, & Belonging

    Jul 29, 2019·33m
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    Coding Dojo

    Jul 10, 2019·25m
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    A Portal to the Intern Team

    Jun 20, 2019·27m
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    Meditation with Guest David Saxby

    Jun 3, 2019·20m
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    Introduction to Machine Learning

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    Power of Habit

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    Little Experiments Go a Long Way

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    Feb 18, 2019·22m
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    Feb 18, 2019·22m
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