AI & I

Dan Shipper

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AI & I is a conversational interview show about how AI is being used in real workflows, not just imagined in the abstract. Episodes move from model design and agent-native products to editing systems, startup incubation, document collaboration, and AI-powered schoolwork.

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About AI & I

AI & I is a show about AI after the first wave of novelty has worn off. It spends time with people who are already changing their work around the tools. The conversations are technical, but they keep circling back to the scene on the ground. What does the dashboard look like? Who edits the draft? Where does the agent live in Slack? How does a product team decide what an AI system should not do? That practical pressure gives the show its shape. Eve’s episode on energy-based models pushes beyond the assumption that intelligence must be framed as language, using navigation, vision, and bodily movement to explain why next-token prediction can be a poor fit for some tasks. The workplace episodes take the opposite angle, staying close to the mess of adoption. Willie and Brandon describe agents that become known inside an organization, reflecting the person who uses them and changing how trust moves through a team. Kate’s conversation brings AI into editorial work, where a style guide, draft review, and human taste all matter more than a generic writing assistant. The product conversations are just as grounded. Linear becomes a way to talk about software as the place where humans and agents coordinate, while Mike Krieger’s episode frames agent-native product design as a question of judgment, restraint, and speed. The show is not allergic to excitement. It is also not satisfied with slogans. A recurring move is to pause an abstract claim and ask for the workflow underneath it. That makes the show especially useful for builders, editors, founders, product people, and technically curious creatives who want to hear how AI is actually being absorbed into teams. It also gives space to social consequences, as in the episode with a student using an AI-powered school platform while weighing alternative college paths, fellowships, and a real project. The best episodes feel like a working session with someone competent and slightly ahead of the curve. They are loose enough to follow live thinking. They are specific enough to leave behind useful examples.

Made for: Built for founders, product teams, writers, engineers, investors, and curious operators tracking how AI changes real work. It also suits listeners who want technical ideas translated through concrete workflows.

What sets it apart: The show’s edge is its screen-share mentality: model theory, product strategy, writing systems, and startup mechanics are judged by what people actually do with them. It favors lived process over polished predictions.

In their own words

Learn how the smartest people in the world are using AI to think, create, and relate. Each week I interview founders, filmmakers, writers, investors, and others about how they use AI tools like ChatGPT, Claude, and Midjourney in their work and in their lives. We screen-share through their historical chats and then experiment with AI live on the show. Join us to discover how AI is changing how we think about our world—and ourselves. For more essays, interviews, and experiments at the forefront of AI: https://every.to/chain-of-thought?sort=newest.

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Based on 5 episodes we listened to · September 2026

Dan connects AI's technical machinery to practical questions of authorship, interface design and creative control.

AI & I treats artificial intelligence as a working material, asking how new systems alter the making of software, documents and ideas. Dan moves comfortably between technical explanation and practical use: a discussion of energy-based models becomes an argument about reasoning…

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From an AI-taught student to a Minecraft UI for subagents, Dan Shipper gives your AI curiosity specifics.

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The AI Model Built for What LLMs Can't DoApr 15, 2026

A clear, conceptual case for EBMs as a different fit from token-by-token language reasoning.

The piece presents EBMs as a different kind of model from LLMs: non-autoregressive, not built step by step, and better for problems that need a full-map view.

We Made a Document Editor Where Humans and AI Work Side by SideMar 11, 2026

The real gain is clearer collaboration, not just faster drafting.

The episode treats the work as a shared web document that humans and agents can edit, comment on, and track together. Dan Shipper uses that setup to draft an essay about a dinner at Squirrel in LA, then compares what the agent wrote with what he wrote in the proof doc.

Meet the Slowest Startup Incubator in the World—Pumping Out Billion-dollar CompaniesMar 4, 2026

A grounded look at how AI is reshaping early company-building decisions.

AI & I treats startup formation as a real choice between two paths: AI-native companies that push a category forward, and AI-durable companies that use AI without changing the machine at the core.

Meet the Student With No Teachers, No Homework—Just AIFeb 25, 2026

A grounded look at AI education, ambition, and the tradeoffs between school and a project.

The piece follows a student at Alpha High School as they weigh a tightly defined adolescence: classes delivered through an AI-powered platform, a flight to San Francisco in 20 days, and the problem of making school bend without breaking while still preserving high school credit…

OpenAI's Codex: This Model Is So Fast It Changes How You CodeFeb 18, 2026

A practical look at Codex as a fast GUI for programming, with multitasking and automation at the center.

The piece presents Codex as a GUI for programming that already feels quicker than a terminal workflow, even if it is still finding its full speed.

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Episodes

  1. 1

    How a Professional Writer Writes With AI

    Sep 2, 2026·48m
  2. 2

    A $10B Hedge Fund’s AI Playbook (Best of the Pod)

    Aug 26, 2026·1h 7m
  3. 3

    The AI Alien Companion App That's Bringing In $4M a Year (Best of the Pod)

    Aug 19, 2026·1h 22m
  4. 4

    Microsoft’s Vision for an Internet Made for Agents With CTO Kevin Scott (Best of the Pod)

    Aug 12, 2026·28m
  5. 5

    Why the Next Hit AI Product Will Be Social Why the Next Hit AI Product Will Be Social (Best of the Pod)

    Aug 5, 2026·49m
  6. 6

    Best of the Pod: Wired's Kevin Kelly on Why AI Is a 50-year Overnight Success

    Jul 29, 2026·54m
  7. 7

    How Every's Team Used AI to Ship Its Biggest Launch Ever

    Jul 22, 2026·47m
  8. 8

    The Founder of a $1.5B AI Company on What Comes After the First Wave of AI Apps

    Jul 15, 2026·1h
  9. 9

    How a Writer Uses AI Without Losing His Voice

    Jul 8, 2026·53m
  10. 10

    The AI Workflows Behind Every's Consulting Team

    Jul 1, 2026·41m
  11. 11

    Building a School Where AI Models Learn About Humanity

    Jun 24, 2026·44m
  12. 12

    GitHub’s COO Explains Why AI Hasn’t Replaced Developers

    Jun 17, 2026·28m
  13. 13

    How Anthropic Uses Claude Fable 5 With Mike Krieger

    Jun 10, 2026·52m
  14. 14

    The SaaS Apocalypse Is a Goldmine With Figma’s Matt Colyer

    Jun 3, 2026·34m
  15. 15

    We Automated Everything With AI and Tripled Our Headcount

    May 27, 2026·41m
  16. 16

    Inside Stainless: The Developer Tools Startup Anthropic Just Bought for $300 Million

    May 20, 2026·51m
  17. 17

    Claude Code Can Be Your Second Brain

    May 13, 2026·1h 10m
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    The Secrets of Claude's Platform From the Team Who Built It

    May 8, 2026·43m
  19. 19

    Why We Switched From Claude Code to Codex

    May 6, 2026·58m
  20. 20

    How Stripe Is Building for an Agent-native World

    Apr 29, 2026·54m
  21. 21

    The AI Sandwich: Where Humans Excel in an AI World

    Apr 22, 2026·29m
  22. 22

    The AI Model Built for What LLMs Can't Do

    Hidden gem

    EBMs get a bird's-eye view.

    Apr 15, 2026·54m·3 clips
  23. 23

    We Gave Every Employee an AI Agent. Here's What Happened.

    The hosts discuss their company's experience implementing AI agents (called 'open claw') for every employee, exploring how it transformed their workflow and led to developing their own hosted service called Plus One.

    Apr 8, 2026·50m
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    If SaaS Is Dead, Linear Didn't Get the Memo

    This episode features an interview with the co-founder and CEO of Linear discussing how their SaaS business thrives in the AI era by focusing on quality, patience, and thoughtful product design.

    Apr 1, 2026·53m
  25. 25

    How to Build an Agent-native Product | Mike Krieger

    Mike Krieger discusses building agent-native products and the challenges of AI in software design, with a sponsor segment for Grammarly.

    Mar 25, 2026·49m
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    How Every Builds a Writing Team in the Age of AI

    This episode discusses how Every builds and manages a writing team using AI tools to enforce editorial standards while maintaining quality and consistency.

    Mar 18, 2026·57m
  27. 27

    We Made a Document Editor Where Humans and AI Work Side by Side

    Hidden gem

    A document becomes the shared room.

    Mar 11, 2026·45m·2 clips
  28. 28

    Meet the Slowest Startup Incubator in the World—Pumping Out Billion-dollar Companies

    Hidden gem

    AI moves faster when founders have open ground.

    Mar 4, 2026·45m·2 clips
  29. 29

    Meet the Student With No Teachers, No Homework—Just AI

    Hidden gem

    Alpha High School does not run like a normal school day.

    Feb 25, 2026·53m·3 clips
  30. 30

    OpenAI's Codex: This Model Is So Fast It Changes How You Code

    Hidden gem

    Codex feels absurdly fast at first, almost like a fake demo.

    Feb 18, 2026·47m·3 clips
  31. 31

    Inside OpenAI’s Agentic Browser, Atlas

    Feb 11, 2026·56m
  32. 32

    How We Built 'Claudie,' Our AI Project Manager (Full Walkthrough)

    Feb 4, 2026·47m
  33. 33

    How Andrew Wilkinson Uses Opus 4.5 in His Work and Life

    Jan 21, 2026·1h 3m
  34. 34

    Why Your AI Learning Projects Keep Fizzling Out

    Jan 14, 2026·55m
  35. 35

    Vibe Check: Claude Cowork Is Claude Code for the Rest of Us

    Jan 13, 2026·1h 33m
  36. 36

    AI in 2026: Reid Hoffman’s Predictions on Agents, Work, and Creation

    Jan 7, 2026·1h
  37. 37

    Four Predictions for How AI Will Change Software in 2026

    Dec 31, 2025·37m
  38. 38

    Best of the Pod: Reid Hoffman on How AI Is Answering Our Biggest Questions

    Dec 24, 2025·1h 1m
  39. 39

    Jhana Meditation Live: How Anyone Can Achieve Super Wellbeing

    Dec 16, 2025·1h 16m
  40. 40

    She Turned Her Whole Life Into Training Data—For an AI Baby

    Dec 10, 2025·1h 14m
  41. 41

    Why Opus 4.5 Just Became the Most Influential AI Model

    Dec 3, 2025·1h 25m
  42. 42

    Best of the Pod: Would You Shut Down Your Most Successful Product? The Arc to Dia Story

    Nov 26, 2025·1h 24m
  43. 43

    Best of the Pod: Claude Code - How Two Engineers Ship Like a Team of 15

    Nov 19, 2025·53m
  44. 44

    Building AI Agents to Launch a Million Businesses

    Nov 12, 2025·1h 6m
  45. 45

    What Jason Fried Learned from 26 Years of Building Great Products

    Nov 5, 2025·58m
  46. 46

    How Salesforce Is Using AI to Power the Enterprise

    Oct 31, 2025·14m
  47. 47

    Inside Claude Code From the Engineers Who Built It

    Oct 29, 2025·1h 10m
  48. 48

    Spiral: Designing an AI Ghostwriter With Taste

    Danny, the general manager of Spiral, discusses rebuilding the AI writing tool from the ground up to create a beautiful, intentional experience that solves the problem of slow, generic AI writing.

    Oct 22, 2025·1h 8m
  49. 49

    We Taught AI to Play Games—Now It’s a $3.6 Million Company

    Oct 15, 2025·58m
  50. 50

    Box CEO Aaron Levie on Why AI Agents Won’t Take Your Job

    Oct 8, 2025·53m
  51. 51

    MCP Servers: Teaching AI to Use the Internet Like Humans

    Oct 1, 2025·52m
  52. 52

    Cognition’s CEO on What Comes After Code

    Sep 24, 2025·53m
  53. 53

    One Developer Got Thousands of Users Before His App Launched

    Sep 17, 2025·57m
  54. 54

    Claude Code Can Be Your Second Brain

    Sep 10, 2025·1h 12m
  55. 55

    This AI Makes a Video Game World in 40 Milliseconds

    Sep 3, 2025·1h 5m
  56. 56

    Best of the Pod: How to Prepare for AGI According to Reid Hoffman

    This episode features a discussion with Reid Hoffman about preparing for AGI, focusing on practical ways to enhance personal agency and navigate AI's impact, based on his book 'Super Agency'.

    Aug 27, 2025·1h 10m
  57. 57

    Best of the Pod: She Built an AI Product Manager Bringing in Six Figures—As A Side Hustle

    Aug 20, 2025·1h 7m
  58. 58

    Best of the Pod: Vercel's Guillermo Rauch on AI and the Future of Coding

    Aug 13, 2025·58m
  59. 59

    Best of the Pod: Dwarkesh Patel’s Quest to Learn Everything

    Jul 30, 2025·50m
  60. 60

    Intentional Tech: Designing AI for Human Flourishing | Alex Komoroske

    Jul 9, 2025·1h 12m
  61. 61

    Arc Had Millions of Users. Why They Left It Behind for Dia. | Josh Miller and Hursh Agrawal, cofounders of The Browser Company

    Jul 2, 2025·1h 25m
  62. 62

    How We Built Our AI Email Assistant: A Behind-the-Scenes Look at Cora

    Jun 26, 2025·46m
  63. 63

    Inside OpenAI: Coaching the People Creating AGI | Joe Hudson, Founder of The Art of Accomplishment

    Jun 18, 2025·54m
  64. 64

    How Two Engineers Ship Like a Team of 15 With AI Agents

    Two engineers from Quora discuss how they use AI agents to dramatically increase their team's productivity, making a two-person team feel like 15 by automating coding, research, and workflows.

    Jun 11, 2025·54m
  65. 65

    The Future of AI in Medicine: From Rules to Intuition | Awais Aftab, Psychiatrist and writer

    Jun 4, 2025·53m
  66. 66

    GitHub CEO on the AI Coding Arms Race: One Agent, 150M+ Devs | Thomas Dohmke

    GitHub CEO Thomas Dohmke discusses the launch of GitHub Co-Pilot Agents and GitHub's position in the competitive AI coding landscape.

    May 28, 2025·31m
  67. 67

    Kevin Scott on The Future of Programming, AI Agents, and Microsoft’s Big Bet on the Agentic Web

    May 20, 2025·28m
  68. 68

    OpenAI Launches Codex: An Autonomous Programming Agent

    May 16, 2025·45m
  69. 69

    OpenAI Launches Codex: An Autonomous Programming Agent

    May 16, 2025·43m
  70. 70

    The $10B Hedge Fund CEO Who’s Betting Big on AI | Will England, Walleye Capital

    May 14, 2025·1h 7m
  71. 71

    Jhana Meditation Silenced Her Mind—And Changed Her View On AI | Nadia Asparouhova

    May 7, 2025·54m
  72. 72

    The Next AI Wave Will Be Social, Not Solo | Sarah Tavel, Benchmark and ex-Pinterest

    Apr 30, 2025·49m
  73. 73

    How To Predict The Future With Kevin Kelly - Ep. 57

    Apr 23, 2025·55m
  74. 74

    This AI Alien Will Bring In $4 Million This Year in Revenue - Ep. 56 with Quinten Farmer and Eliot Peper

    Apr 17, 2025·1h 23m
  75. 75

    An Inside Look at Every’s Design Philosophy - Ep. 55 with Lucas Crespo

    Apr 9, 2025·1h 3m
  76. 76

    Being Human in the Age of Intelligent Machines - Ep. 54 with Dr. Alan Lightman

    Apr 3, 2025·56m
  77. 77

    He’s Using AI to Optimize His Life - Ep. 53 with Jonny Miller

    Mar 26, 2025·1h 3m
  78. 78

    I Interviewed New Jersey Governor Phil Murphy about AI - Ep. 52 with Governor Phil Murphy

    Mar 19, 2025·47m
  79. 79

    Prompt Your Way To Personal Growth - Ep. 51 with Steve Schlafman

    Mar 12, 2025·56m
  80. 80

    How AI Startups Can Win With Better Strategy - Ep. 50 with Mike Maples

    Mar 5, 2025·1h 3m
  81. 81

    He Built an AI Audience Simulator. It’s the Future of Customer Research. - Ep. 49 with Michael Taylor

    Feb 26, 2025·1h 6m
  82. 82

    How Nat Eliason Made $200,000 in a Week Teaching AI - Ep. 48

    Feb 12, 2025·59m
  83. 83

    Vercel’s Guillermo Rauch on What Comes After Coding - Ep. 47

    Feb 5, 2025·56m
  84. 84

    How to Prepare for AGI - Ep. 46 with Reid Hoffman

    Jan 29, 2025·1h 9m
  85. 85

    How to Prepare for AGI According to Reid Hoffman - Ep. 46

    Jan 29, 2025·1h 9m
  86. 86

    The Venture Capitalist Who Finds the Best AI Products—Before They Win - Ep. 45 with Nabeel Hyatt

    Jan 22, 2025·1h 2m
  87. 87

    The Venture Capitalist Who Finds the Best AI Products—Before They Win - Ep. 45 with Nabeel Hyatt

    Jan 22, 2025·1h 2m
  88. 88

    An Inside Look at Building an Email Client in 3 Months - Ep. 44 with Kieran Klaassen, Brandon Gell

    Jan 15, 2025·1h 15m
  89. 89

    How AI Will Change Science Forever - Ep. 43 with Alice Albrecht

    Dec 18, 2024·1h
  90. 90

    The Secret to Building Sticky AI Products - Ep. 42 with Chris Pedregal

    Dec 12, 2024·1h 1m
  91. 91

    Do 60-Minute Coding Tasks in 60 Seconds—With AI - Ep. 41 with Steve Krouse

    Dec 4, 2024·1h 1m
  92. 92

    How We Incubate and Launch New Products With AI - Ep. 40 with Danny Aziz, Brandon Gell

    Nov 27, 2024·1h 1m
  93. 93

    His GPT Wrapper Has Half a Million Users—And Keeps Growing - Ep. 39 with Vicente Silveira

    Nov 20, 2024·1h 3m
  94. 94

    How to Win With Prompt Engineering - Ep. 38 with Jared Zoneraich

    Nov 13, 2024·1h 2m
  95. 95

    How Notion Cofounder Simon Last Builds AI for Millions of Users - Ep. 37 with Simon Last

    Nov 8, 2024·56m
  96. 96

    How Union Square Ventures Built an AI Brain for Venture Capital - Ep. 36 with Matt Cynamon

    Oct 30, 2024·1h 9m
  97. 97

    Building AI That Builds Itself - Ep. 35 with Yohei Nakajima

    Oct 23, 2024·58m
  98. 98

    How to Use AI to Become a Learning Machine - Ep. 34 with Simon Eskildsen

    Sep 11, 2024·1h 14m
  99. 99

    How to Supercharge Your Writing With AI Tools - Ep. 33 with Evan Armstrong

    Sep 4, 2024·1h 35m
  100. 100

    The Browser Company Is Building a Brand That Drives Viral Growth - Ep. 32 with Nashilu Mouen-Makoua

    Aug 28, 2024·1h 9m
  101. 101

    Building an AI Media and Software Empire - Ep. 31 with Brandon Gell

    Aug 23, 2024·1h 56m
  102. 102

    How to Be a Smarter Reader in the Age of AI - Ep. 30 with Alex Wieckowski

    Aug 14, 2024·1h 20m
  103. 103

    How Packy McCormick Finds His Next Big Idea - Ep. 29

    Aug 7, 2024·1h 14m
  104. 104

    How a Top Podcaster Rides the AI Wave - Ep. 28 with Nathaniel Whittemore

    Jul 31, 2024·1h 9m
  105. 105

    Dwarkesh Patel’s Quest to Learn Everything - Ep. 27

    Jul 24, 2024·1h 13m
  106. 106

    The Internet Creator's Guide to the Future - Ep. 26 with Steph Smith

    Jul 17, 2024·1h 19m
  107. 107

    The AI-powered Era of Scientific Discovery Is Here - Ep. 25 with Dr. Bradley Love

    Jul 10, 2024·59m
  108. 108

    She Built an AI Product Manager Bringing in Six Figures—As A Side Hustle - Ep. 24 with Claire Vo

    Jun 20, 2024·1h 5m
  109. 109

    What Do LLMs Tell Us About the Nature of Language—And Ourselves? - Ep. 23 with Robin Sloan

    Jun 12, 2024·54m
  110. 110

    Is NotebookLM—Google's Research Assistant—the Ultimate Tool For Thought? - Ep.22 with Steven Johnson

    Jun 6, 2024·56m
  111. 111

    Trailer: What is AI & I?

    May 29, 2024·2m
  112. 112

    Kevin Roose Has 18 New Best Friends—And They're All AIs - Ep. 21

    May 15, 2024·50m
  113. 113

    Is Prompting the Future of Coding? - Ep. 20 with Nick Dobos

    May 1, 2024·57m
  114. 114

    He Built an AI Model That Can Decode Your Emotions - Ep. 19 with Alan Cowen

    Apr 24, 2024·56m
  115. 115

    Reid Hoffman on How AI is Answering Our Biggest Questions - Ep. 18 with Reid Hoffman

    Apr 17, 2024·1h 1m
  116. 116

    This Best-selling Author Wrote a Book in 30 Days—With ChatGPT - Ep. 17 with Seth Stephens-Davidowitz

    Apr 10, 2024·1h 14m
  117. 117

    Take Your Business From Zero to One With AI - Ep. 16 with Nicholas Thorne

    Mar 27, 2024·1h 1m
  118. 118

    Prozac and ChatGPT: How Technology is Changing the Way We See Ourselves - Ep. 15 with Peter D. Kramer

    Mar 20, 2024·1h 5m
  119. 119

    How to Run a Profitable One-person Internet Business Using AI - Ep. 14 with Ben Tossell

    Mar 13, 2024·1h 16m
  120. 120

    Can Gemini 1.5 Pro Beat Our Best Stock Trade? - Ep. 13 with Jesse Beyroutey

    Mar 1, 2024·1h 37m
  121. 121

    How a Hollywood Director Uses AI to Make Movies - Ep. 12 with Dave Clark

    Feb 28, 2024·1h 5m
  122. 122

    She’s Running a Business, Writing a Book, and Getting a PhD—with ChatGPT - Ep. 11 with Anne-Laure Le Cunff

    Feb 21, 2024·1h 29m
  123. 123

    How to Find Your Next Big Idea Hiding on the Internet - Ep. 10 with Steph Smith

    Feb 14, 2024·1h 59m
  124. 124

    How to Make a Video Game With ChatGPT in 60 Minutes - Ep. 9 with Logan Kilpatrick

    Feb 7, 2024·1h 45m
  125. 125

    ChatGPT for Radical Self-betterment - Ep. 8 with Gena Gorlin

    Jan 31, 2024·1h 23m
  126. 126

    Economist Tyler Cowen on How ChatGPT Is Changing Your Job - Ep. 7 with Tyler Cowen

    Jan 24, 2024·1h 7m
  127. 127

    How David Perell Uses ChatGPT to Write for Millions - Ep. 6 with David Perell

    Jan 18, 2024·1h 27m
  128. 128

    You Can Build an App in 60 Minutes with ChatGPT - Ep. 5 with Geoffrey Litt

    Jan 10, 2024·1h 5m
  129. 129

    How to Use ChatGPT as a Copilot for Learning - Ep. 4 with Nathan Labenz

    Dec 20, 2023·1h 13m
  130. 130

    How an AI Researcher Uses ChatGPT and Notion AI - Ep. 3 with Linus Lee

    Dec 13, 2023·1h 14m
  131. 131

    Using ChatGPT for Writing and Recommending Books - Ep. 2 with Nat Eliason

    Dec 1, 2023·41m
  132. 132

    Buying a Building with ChatGPT - Ep. 1 with Sahil Lavingia

    Nov 15, 2023·47m