The Stubborn Tortoise

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Trail culture, sore hips, stubborn miles.

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The Stubborn Tortoise follows Donna Pazdera through the messy middle of running culture: physical therapy, hip pain, trail work, race logistics, and the moods around them. It is intimate and conversational, with detours into travel, weather, music, old friends, and the small negotiations that keep a runner moving.

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About The Stubborn Tortoise

The Stubborn Tortoise is a personal trail-running show about the parts of the sport that rarely fit into a race recap. Donna Pazdera talks from inside the routine: getting to physical therapy, trying new exercises, managing a cranky hip, deciding when rest is actually rest, and wondering what counts as progress. The tone is candid and lightly self-deprecating. It can be very funny. A visit to a physical therapy clinic becomes a story about walkers, BOSU squats, taped floor lines, and a zero-gravity treadmill that feels gimmicky but useful. A medical update becomes a reflection on x-rays, osteoarthritis, and the odd fascination of seeing one’s own joint on a screen. The show is about trail running, but it is also about the conditions around running. Weather matters. Travel matters. Flu recovery, time changes, missed routines, and the mental pull of a half marathon all become part of the story. Pazdera often lets the path wander, then finds her way back through memory, annoyance, and practical self-assessment. That wandering is part of the appeal. The show has the rhythm of someone sorting out what the body will allow this week. It also keeps a close eye on community. Episodes mention course marking, local trails, hill repeats, trail stewards, and the friends who make running culture work. When guests appear to talk about race work, the focus shifts from personal mileage to the hidden machinery of race day: setup, timing, barriers, crew work, and lessons for smaller events. The result is not a coaching show or a glossy endurance brand. It is a field notebook from a stubborn runner, full of aches, jokes, detours, and practical affection for the trail world.

Made for: For runners who care as much about trail community, injury management, and race-day logistics as finishing times. It especially suits listeners who like candid solo storytelling with dry humor and real-life detours.

What sets it apart: The show stands apart by treating running culture as an ongoing life, not a performance. Its most memorable moments come from physical therapy rooms, course-marking struggles, local trail systems, and the quiet decisions around backing off or continuing.

In their own words

People often ask me why I love trail running. It's all about the stories. You meet a different kind of person on the trails: connects with nature, doesn't mind slowing down if someone is in need, says, "Good job, runner." Trail runners are competitive, for sure. But it's also egalitarian. Seldom will you find the elites separated from the regular folk. Everyone gets lost at some point. Everyone falls. These are our badges of passage. This is my take on trail culture.Logo: Kevin StichMusic: "Our Sky," by Overland (via Free Music Archive)Contact

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Based on 4 episodes we listened to · September 2026

Donna Pazdera gives running an intimate scale, connecting injury, recovery, trail routines and the practical work behind organized races.

Donna Pazdera treats running as a lived practice, tracking the awkward distance between ambition and what the body will currently allow. Her solo episodes move through physical therapy, advanced hip osteoarthritis, altered race plans and the cautious pleasure of returning to a…

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Donna Pazdera turns a balky hip and Boston barricades into the running chat that keeps you company.

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  • honest companionship when your body edits the race plan
  • behind-the-scenes race logistics from people hauling barricades, timing events, and learning on the job
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  1. 1

    A Brief Hiatus and Big Plans

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  2. 2

    Don't Skip Leg Day and Other Stories

    ·16m
  3. 3

    Things going awry all at once

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  4. 4

    The Flu as a Parting Gift

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  5. 5

    Two, count 'em, two, adventures

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  6. 6

    I Have Become Fran

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  7. 7

    Rekindling the Love

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  8. 8

    "We Don't Have to Feel Alone as Runners."

    ·56m
  9. 9

    Returning to Big Boy Races

    ·22m
  10. 10

    I Guess I Should Train, Eh?

    ·24m
  11. 11

    Season 7, People!

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  12. 12

    It's about time.

    ·27m
  13. 13

    Lots of DRAMA

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  14. 14

    Giving Back

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  15. 15

    The Dark

    ·14m
  16. 16

    I'm Still Here

    ·33m
  17. 17

    Reflecting on my Past and Looking Ahead

    ·34m
  18. 18

    Life Goes On

    ·21m
  19. 19

    Extraordinary People: Tia Banks

    ·47m
  20. 20

    Back to Square One, part ????

    ·21m
  21. 21

    Found objects and other stories

    ·21m
  22. 22

    Three Events, Two Cancelations and One Great Experience

    ·31m
  23. 23

    Snowdrop Relay Experience

    ·30m
  24. 24

    Spilling the Tea and Other Stories

    ·17m
  25. 25

    Reminiscing, Recommitting and Resilience

    ·30m
  26. 26

    Some Inconvenient Truths

    ·25m
  27. 27

    Some Political and Personal Stuff, But Some News!

    ·24m
  28. 28

    Deepak Shukla: 100 Miles Isn't Enough

    ·44m
  29. 29

    Master's Edition: Mironda Meyer: Normalizing Menopause

    ·59m
  30. 30

    Discovering Romance Doing What You Love

    ·32m
  31. 31

    Perspective Pays.

    ·25m
  32. 32

    Recommitting, Part ?

    ·19m
  33. 33

    Master's Edition: Courtney Lumpkin Classen

    ·56m
  34. 34

    Using an Ultra Mindset and Other Stories

    ·39m
  35. 35

    Still at It.

    ·18m
  36. 36

    Annnnnd, I'm Back!

    ·28m
  37. 37

    It's All in the Hip

    ·27m
  38. 38

    The Boston Marathon, Inside-Out with Coach Basilio Mendoza and Orlando "Hundo" Montalvo

    ·1h 17m
  39. 39

    Master's Edition: Robert Gonzales. No Quitting, Always Aspiring.

    ·1h 25m
  40. 40

    Getting Committed

    ·14m
  41. 41

    Remix: Trail Foes and Friends

    ·25m
  42. 42

    Master's Edition: Lisa Tuckwood

    ·56m
  43. 43

    Basics for Beginners

    ·30m
  44. 44

    Satan's Driveway in Plain Sight

    ·29m
  45. 45

    Extraordinary People: Olga Laque and Rustie Johnson

    ·1h 10m
  46. 46

    Extraordinary People: Steve Carter

    ·1h 10m
  47. 47

    Extraordinary People: Kate Motsko

    ·1h 13m
  48. 48

    Master's Edition: Timothy Sneed. Overcoming the RUSH

    ·1h 29m
  49. 49

    Extraordinary People: Meg Eckert

    ·1h 11m
  50. 50

    Resolving, Rowing, Running

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  51. 51

    2023 roundup

    ·27m
  52. 52

    The Buddy Chat: Angela Coppi Wojcik

    ·40m
  53. 53

    Master's Edition: Robbie De La Rosa. Runs for the Love of the Sport

    ·1h 16m
  54. 54

    In Many Directions, But All Point Forward

    ·26m
  55. 55

    This one time at Band Camp

    ·29m
  56. 56

    Special Master's Edition: Brad and Pamela Toelle. Jiking the Javelina Jundred (K)

    ·1h 5m
  57. 57

    Volunteer Fun and...Body Image Issues

    ·30m
  58. 58

    Forging Ahead, Slowly, Very Slowly

    ·21m
  59. 59

    Rodeo Roundup: J&J, circa 2017, cats! and You've Got to Make Your Own Music

    ·20m
  60. 60

    The Race of Surprises

    Donna Pazdera describes why the Wild Hare trail race at Bluff Creek Ranch is her favorite annual event, highlighting its local vibe, scenic course, and personal history.

    ·26m
  61. 61

    The Cedar Choppers and Why I Am Not Cut Out for Trail-Building

    ·22m
  62. 62

    The Mental Sherpa and Other Stories

    ·24m
  63. 63

    The Top 10 Trails in Texas -- Donna's Version

    ·29m
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    Special Master's Edition: Julie Haynes

    ·54m
  65. 65

    Master's Edition: Liz Casa Perez

    ·49m
  66. 66

    The DNS That Shouldn't Have Happened

    ·18m
  67. 67

    On the Comeback -- I Hope!

    ·20m
  68. 68

    A Masochist's Paradise

    ·17m
  69. 69

    The Tortoise Goes West

    ·21m
  70. 70

    Happy Season Five! (And more personal stuff)

    ·30m
  71. 71

    Extraordinary People: Sara Dudzikowski - The Comeback Kid

    ·39m
  72. 72

    Paz n' Hundo: The Great Reset

    ·38m
  73. 73

    The Buddy Chat! A new wrinkle (or scale?) in this podcast where I talk to some of my buddies.

    ·48m
  74. 74

    Master's Edition: Karen and Manny Olivo -- the ultrarunning power couple

    ·53m
  75. 75

    Extraordinary People: Ann Ludewig and Vicki Allen -- Always Learning

    ·1h 5m
  76. 76

    Master's Edition: Gordon Montgomery, the Intellect With Two Replaced Hips

    ·1h 35m
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    Master's Edition - Bill Luttrell Won't Stop

    ·52m
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    Extraordinary People: Cyrus Walker

    ·1h 5m
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    Master's Edition: Mark Benefiel

    ·1h 21m
  80. 80

    Extraordinary People: James Boler

    ·50m
  81. 81

    Extraordinary People: Amanda Eaton

    ·47m
  82. 82

    Master's Edition -- Kenny Gardner: Change is Good

    ·1h 5m
  83. 83

    Extraordinary People: Aurora Kerr

    ·33m
  84. 84

    Master's Edition: Howard Avery

    ·57m
  85. 85

    Being Grateful

    ·25m
  86. 86

    Extraordinary People: Liza Howard

    ·45m
  87. 87

    Extraordinary People: Vincent Antunez

    ·1h 16m
  88. 88

    Bob, the Cone, and Rediscovering Some Joy in Running

    ·25m
  89. 89

    A Birthday, New Friends and a Deep Revelation

    ·21m
  90. 90

    Mixing it Up...Plus, What Do YOU Want?

    ·16m
  91. 91

    Extraordinary People: P.J. Izaguirre

    ·1h 30m
  92. 92

    Extraordinary People: The Band of Runners

    ·52m
  93. 93

    Reflections and I Finally Finished a Race

    ·22m
  94. 94

    Giving Back, Looking Ahead and Asking for a Little Help

    ·29m
  95. 95

    Falling off the Horse

    ·23m
  96. 96

    Extraordinary People: Kenneth Anderlitch

    ·1h 13m
  97. 97

    Extraordinary People Who Are Overcoming Long Covid: Joe Schmal

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  98. 98

    Special Guest: Christine Foster

    Donna Pazdera interviews runner Christine Foster about her fitness journey and ultramarathon experiences.

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  99. 99

    Aid Stationing, a Race, and Awards!

    Donna Pazdera discusses her experience volunteering at the Hill Country Trivium Race in Marble Falls, Texas, noting the mix of road and trail runners and the challenges of being short-staffed.

    ·24m
  100. 100

    Re-pod for a cause

    Donna repodcasts her 2022 interview with Kenneth Anderlich, who ran across Texas to raise money for recovery, and updates listeners on his new 1,800-mile run from D.C.

    ·1h 13m
  101. 101

    It's All in the Hip

    Hidden gem

    Donna Pazdera shares news about her physical therapy journey and a recent trip to Denton, Texas, for a student magazine conference.

    Mar 30, 2026·27m·1 clip
  102. 102

    Don't Skip Leg Day and Other Stories

    Donna Pazdera shares her experience starting physical therapy and feeling out of place among older patients.

    Mar 2, 2026·16m·1 clip
  103. 103

    Things going awry all at once

    Donna Pazdera returns to the Stubborn Tortoise podcast after a hiatus, discussing her recovery from the flu and her challenging experience marking a course for the Bandera race in unseasonably warm weather.

    Feb 16, 2026·33m
  104. 104

    The Flu as a Parting Gift

    The host shares her experience recovering from Influenza A during the last week of 2025, detailing her symptoms and travel.

    Dec 29, 2025·31m
  105. 105

    Two, count 'em, two, adventures

    Donna Pasdera discusses her first acupuncture appointment and the history of Hippie Hill.

    Nov 16, 2025·36m
  106. 106

    I Have Become Fran

    Hidden gem

    Donna Pazdara uses the Recharge Run at Government Canyon, her left hip pain, and a planned San Antonio half marathon to describe a major shift in her running.

    Nov 3, 2025·30m·1 clip
  107. 107

    Rekindling the Love

    Hidden gem

    Donna Pasdera explains why she dropped from the 25k Wild Hare to the 10k after realizing she was undertrained.

    Oct 27, 2025·23m·1 clip
  108. 108

    "We Don't Have to Feel Alone as Runners."

    Hidden gem

    Kate Mahivik Edwards recounts how a five-mile run on her son's first birthday preceded a rare heart-disease diagnosis and a limit on strenuous exercise.

    Sep 30, 2025·56m·2 clips
  109. 109

    Returning to Big Boy Races

    Sep 9, 2025·22m
  110. 110

    I Guess I Should Train, Eh?

    Aug 25, 2025·24m
  111. 111

    Season 7, People!

    Aug 11, 2025·31m
  112. 112

    It's about time.

    Aug 4, 2025·27m
  113. 113

    Lots of DRAMA

    Jul 20, 2025·27m
  114. 114

    Giving Back

    Jul 14, 2025·20m
  115. 115

    The Dark

    Jul 6, 2025·14m
  116. 116

    I'm Still Here

    Jun 30, 2025·33m
  117. 117

    Life Goes On

    Apr 13, 2025·21m
  118. 118

    Extraordinary People: Tia Banks

    Mar 23, 2025·47m
  119. 119

    Back to Square One, part ????

    Mar 10, 2025·21m
  120. 120

    Found objects and other stories

    Jan 27, 2025·21m
  121. 121

    Three Events, Two Cancelations and One Great Experience

    Jan 13, 2025·31m
  122. 122

    Snowdrop Relay Experience

    Jan 5, 2025·30m
  123. 123

    Spilling the Tea and Other Stories

    Dec 31, 2024·17m
  124. 124

    Reminiscing, Recommitting and Resilience

    Dec 9, 2024·30m
  125. 125

    Some Inconvenient Truths

    Nov 17, 2024·25m
  126. 126

    Some Political and Personal Stuff, But Some News!

    Nov 10, 2024·24m
  127. 127

    Reflecting on my Past and Looking Ahead

    Oct 27, 2024·34m
  128. 128

    Deepak Shukla: 100 Miles Isn't Enough

    Oct 7, 2024·44m
  129. 129

    Master's Edition: Mironda Meyer: Normalizing Menopause

    Sep 29, 2024·59m
  130. 130

    Re-pod for a cause

    Sep 23, 2024·1h 13m
  131. 131

    Discovering Romance Doing What You Love

    Sep 9, 2024·32m
  132. 132

    Perspective Pays.

    Sep 2, 2024·25m
  133. 133

    Recommitting, Part ?

    Aug 27, 2024·19m
  134. 134

    Master's Edition: Courtney Lumpkin Classen

    Aug 18, 2024·56m
  135. 135

    Using an Ultra Mindset and Other Stories

    Aug 4, 2024·39m
  136. 136

    Still at It.

    Jul 15, 2024·18m
  137. 137

    Annnnnd, I'm Back!

    Jul 8, 2024·28m
  138. 138

    A Brief Hiatus and Big Plans

    May 5, 2024·23m
  139. 139

    Master's Edition: Robert Gonzales. No Quitting, Always Aspiring.

    Apr 15, 2024·1h 25m
  140. 140

    Getting Committed

    Apr 1, 2024·14m
  141. 141

    Remix: Trail Foes and Friends

    Mar 18, 2024·25m
  142. 142

    Master's Edition: Lisa Tuckwood

    Mar 11, 2024·56m
  143. 143

    Basics for Beginners

    Mar 4, 2024·30m
  144. 144

    Satan's Driveway in Plain Sight

    Feb 26, 2024·29m
  145. 145

    Extraordinary People: Olga Laque and Rustie Johnson

    Feb 19, 2024·1h 10m
  146. 146

    Extraordinary People: Steve Carter

    Feb 12, 2024·1h 10m
  147. 147

    Extraordinary People: Kate Motsko

    Feb 4, 2024·1h 13m
  148. 148

    Master's Edition: Timothy Sneed. Overcoming the RUSH

    Jan 28, 2024·1h 29m
  149. 149

    Extraordinary People: Meg Eckert

    Jan 14, 2024·1h 11m