
Trail culture, sore hips, stubborn miles.
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The Stubborn Tortoise follows Donna Pazdera through the messy middle of running culture: physical therapy, hip pain, trail work, race logistics, and the moods around them. It is intimate and conversational, with detours into travel, weather, music, old friends, and the small negotiations that keep a runner moving.
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About The Stubborn Tortoise
The Stubborn Tortoise is a personal trail-running show about the parts of the sport that rarely fit into a race recap. Donna Pazdera talks from inside the routine: getting to physical therapy, trying new exercises, managing a cranky hip, deciding when rest is actually rest, and wondering what counts as progress. The tone is candid and lightly self-deprecating. It can be very funny. A visit to a physical therapy clinic becomes a story about walkers, BOSU squats, taped floor lines, and a zero-gravity treadmill that feels gimmicky but useful. A medical update becomes a reflection on x-rays, osteoarthritis, and the odd fascination of seeing one’s own joint on a screen. The show is about trail running, but it is also about the conditions around running. Weather matters. Travel matters. Flu recovery, time changes, missed routines, and the mental pull of a half marathon all become part of the story. Pazdera often lets the path wander, then finds her way back through memory, annoyance, and practical self-assessment. That wandering is part of the appeal. The show has the rhythm of someone sorting out what the body will allow this week. It also keeps a close eye on community. Episodes mention course marking, local trails, hill repeats, trail stewards, and the friends who make running culture work. When guests appear to talk about race work, the focus shifts from personal mileage to the hidden machinery of race day: setup, timing, barriers, crew work, and lessons for smaller events. The result is not a coaching show or a glossy endurance brand. It is a field notebook from a stubborn runner, full of aches, jokes, detours, and practical affection for the trail world.
Made for: For runners who care as much about trail community, injury management, and race-day logistics as finishing times. It especially suits listeners who like candid solo storytelling with dry humor and real-life detours.
What sets it apart: The show stands apart by treating running culture as an ongoing life, not a performance. Its most memorable moments come from physical therapy rooms, course-marking struggles, local trail systems, and the quiet decisions around backing off or continuing.
In their own words
People often ask me why I love trail running. It's all about the stories. You meet a different kind of person on the trails: connects with nature, doesn't mind slowing down if someone is in need, says, "Good job, runner." Trail runners are competitive, for sure. But it's also egalitarian. Seldom will you find the elites separated from the regular folk. Everyone gets lost at some point. Everyone falls. These are our badges of passage. This is my take on trail culture.Logo: Kevin StichMusic: "Our Sky," by Overland (via Free Music Archive)Contact
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Based on 4 episodes we listened to · September 2026
Donna Pazdera gives running an intimate scale, connecting injury, recovery, trail routines and the practical work behind organized races.
Donna Pazdera treats running as a lived practice, tracking the awkward distance between ambition and what the body will currently allow. Her solo episodes move through physical therapy, advanced hip osteoarthritis, altered race plans and the cautious pleasure of returning to a…
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Donna Pazdera turns a balky hip and Boston barricades into the running chat that keeps you company.
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- honest companionship when your body edits the race plan
- behind-the-scenes race logistics from people hauling barricades, timing events, and learning on the job
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Episodes
- 1
A Brief Hiatus and Big Plans
·23m - 2
Don't Skip Leg Day and Other Stories
·16m - 3
Things going awry all at once
·33m - 4
The Flu as a Parting Gift
·31m - 5
Two, count 'em, two, adventures
·36m - 6
I Have Become Fran
·30m - 7
Rekindling the Love
·23m - 8
"We Don't Have to Feel Alone as Runners."
·56m - 9
Returning to Big Boy Races
·22m - 10
I Guess I Should Train, Eh?
·24m - 11
Season 7, People!
·31m - 12
It's about time.
·27m - 13
Lots of DRAMA
·27m - 14
Giving Back
·20m - 15
The Dark
·14m - 16
I'm Still Here
·33m - 17
Reflecting on my Past and Looking Ahead
·34m - 18
Life Goes On
·21m - 19
Extraordinary People: Tia Banks
·47m - 20
Back to Square One, part ????
·21m - 21
Found objects and other stories
·21m - 22
Three Events, Two Cancelations and One Great Experience
·31m - 23
Snowdrop Relay Experience
·30m - 24
Spilling the Tea and Other Stories
·17m - 25
Reminiscing, Recommitting and Resilience
·30m - 26
Some Inconvenient Truths
·25m - 27
Some Political and Personal Stuff, But Some News!
·24m - 28
Deepak Shukla: 100 Miles Isn't Enough
·44m - 29
Master's Edition: Mironda Meyer: Normalizing Menopause
·59m - 30
Discovering Romance Doing What You Love
·32m - 31
Perspective Pays.
·25m - 32
Recommitting, Part ?
·19m - 33
Master's Edition: Courtney Lumpkin Classen
·56m - 34
Using an Ultra Mindset and Other Stories
·39m - 35
Still at It.
·18m - 36
Annnnnd, I'm Back!
·28m - 37
It's All in the Hip
·27m - 38
The Boston Marathon, Inside-Out with Coach Basilio Mendoza and Orlando "Hundo" Montalvo
·1h 17m - 39
Master's Edition: Robert Gonzales. No Quitting, Always Aspiring.
·1h 25m - 40
Getting Committed
·14m - 41
Remix: Trail Foes and Friends
·25m - 42
Master's Edition: Lisa Tuckwood
·56m - 43
Basics for Beginners
·30m - 44
Satan's Driveway in Plain Sight
·29m - 45
Extraordinary People: Olga Laque and Rustie Johnson
·1h 10m - 46
Extraordinary People: Steve Carter
·1h 10m - 47
Extraordinary People: Kate Motsko
·1h 13m - 48
Master's Edition: Timothy Sneed. Overcoming the RUSH
·1h 29m - 49
Extraordinary People: Meg Eckert
·1h 11m - 50
Resolving, Rowing, Running
·30m - 51
2023 roundup
·27m - 52
The Buddy Chat: Angela Coppi Wojcik
·40m - 53
Master's Edition: Robbie De La Rosa. Runs for the Love of the Sport
·1h 16m - 54
In Many Directions, But All Point Forward
·26m - 55
This one time at Band Camp
·29m - 56
Special Master's Edition: Brad and Pamela Toelle. Jiking the Javelina Jundred (K)
·1h 5m - 57
Volunteer Fun and...Body Image Issues
·30m - 58
Forging Ahead, Slowly, Very Slowly
·21m - 59
Rodeo Roundup: J&J, circa 2017, cats! and You've Got to Make Your Own Music
·20m - 60
The Race of Surprises
Donna Pazdera describes why the Wild Hare trail race at Bluff Creek Ranch is her favorite annual event, highlighting its local vibe, scenic course, and personal history.
·26m - 61
The Cedar Choppers and Why I Am Not Cut Out for Trail-Building
·22m - 62
The Mental Sherpa and Other Stories
·24m - 63
The Top 10 Trails in Texas -- Donna's Version
·29m - 64
Special Master's Edition: Julie Haynes
·54m - 65
Master's Edition: Liz Casa Perez
·49m - 66
The DNS That Shouldn't Have Happened
·18m - 67
On the Comeback -- I Hope!
·20m - 68
A Masochist's Paradise
·17m - 69
The Tortoise Goes West
·21m - 70
Happy Season Five! (And more personal stuff)
·30m - 71
Extraordinary People: Sara Dudzikowski - The Comeback Kid
·39m - 72
Paz n' Hundo: The Great Reset
·38m - 73
The Buddy Chat! A new wrinkle (or scale?) in this podcast where I talk to some of my buddies.
·48m - 74
Master's Edition: Karen and Manny Olivo -- the ultrarunning power couple
·53m - 75
Extraordinary People: Ann Ludewig and Vicki Allen -- Always Learning
·1h 5m - 76
Master's Edition: Gordon Montgomery, the Intellect With Two Replaced Hips
·1h 35m - 77
Master's Edition - Bill Luttrell Won't Stop
·52m - 78
Extraordinary People: Cyrus Walker
·1h 5m - 79
Master's Edition: Mark Benefiel
·1h 21m - 80
Extraordinary People: James Boler
·50m - 81
Extraordinary People: Amanda Eaton
·47m - 82
Master's Edition -- Kenny Gardner: Change is Good
·1h 5m - 83
Extraordinary People: Aurora Kerr
·33m - 84
Master's Edition: Howard Avery
·57m - 85
Being Grateful
·25m - 86
Extraordinary People: Liza Howard
·45m - 87
Extraordinary People: Vincent Antunez
·1h 16m - 88
Bob, the Cone, and Rediscovering Some Joy in Running
·25m - 89
A Birthday, New Friends and a Deep Revelation
·21m - 90
Mixing it Up...Plus, What Do YOU Want?
·16m - 91
Extraordinary People: P.J. Izaguirre
·1h 30m - 92
Extraordinary People: The Band of Runners
·52m - 93
Reflections and I Finally Finished a Race
·22m - 94
Giving Back, Looking Ahead and Asking for a Little Help
·29m - 95
Falling off the Horse
·23m - 96
Extraordinary People: Kenneth Anderlitch
·1h 13m - 97
Extraordinary People Who Are Overcoming Long Covid: Joe Schmal
·59m - 98
Special Guest: Christine Foster
Donna Pazdera interviews runner Christine Foster about her fitness journey and ultramarathon experiences.
·44m - 99
Aid Stationing, a Race, and Awards!
Donna Pazdera discusses her experience volunteering at the Hill Country Trivium Race in Marble Falls, Texas, noting the mix of road and trail runners and the challenges of being short-staffed.
·24m - 100
Re-pod for a cause
Donna repodcasts her 2022 interview with Kenneth Anderlich, who ran across Texas to raise money for recovery, and updates listeners on his new 1,800-mile run from D.C.
·1h 13m - 101
It's All in the Hip
Hidden gemDonna Pazdera shares news about her physical therapy journey and a recent trip to Denton, Texas, for a student magazine conference.
Mar 30, 2026·27m·1 clip - 102
Don't Skip Leg Day and Other Stories
Donna Pazdera shares her experience starting physical therapy and feeling out of place among older patients.
Mar 2, 2026·16m·1 clip - 103
Things going awry all at once
Donna Pazdera returns to the Stubborn Tortoise podcast after a hiatus, discussing her recovery from the flu and her challenging experience marking a course for the Bandera race in unseasonably warm weather.
Feb 16, 2026·33m - 104
The Flu as a Parting Gift
The host shares her experience recovering from Influenza A during the last week of 2025, detailing her symptoms and travel.
Dec 29, 2025·31m - 105
Two, count 'em, two, adventures
Donna Pasdera discusses her first acupuncture appointment and the history of Hippie Hill.
Nov 16, 2025·36m - 106
I Have Become Fran
Hidden gemDonna Pazdara uses the Recharge Run at Government Canyon, her left hip pain, and a planned San Antonio half marathon to describe a major shift in her running.
Nov 3, 2025·30m·1 clip - 107
Rekindling the Love
Hidden gemDonna Pasdera explains why she dropped from the 25k Wild Hare to the 10k after realizing she was undertrained.
Oct 27, 2025·23m·1 clip - 108
"We Don't Have to Feel Alone as Runners."
Hidden gemKate Mahivik Edwards recounts how a five-mile run on her son's first birthday preceded a rare heart-disease diagnosis and a limit on strenuous exercise.
Sep 30, 2025·56m·2 clips - 109
Returning to Big Boy Races
Sep 9, 2025·22m - 110
I Guess I Should Train, Eh?
Aug 25, 2025·24m - 111
Season 7, People!
Aug 11, 2025·31m - 112
It's about time.
Aug 4, 2025·27m - 113
Lots of DRAMA
Jul 20, 2025·27m - 114
Giving Back
Jul 14, 2025·20m - 115
The Dark
Jul 6, 2025·14m - 116
I'm Still Here
Jun 30, 2025·33m - 117
Life Goes On
Apr 13, 2025·21m - 118
Extraordinary People: Tia Banks
Mar 23, 2025·47m - 119
Back to Square One, part ????
Mar 10, 2025·21m - 120
Found objects and other stories
Jan 27, 2025·21m - 121
Three Events, Two Cancelations and One Great Experience
Jan 13, 2025·31m - 122
Snowdrop Relay Experience
Jan 5, 2025·30m - 123
Spilling the Tea and Other Stories
Dec 31, 2024·17m - 124
Reminiscing, Recommitting and Resilience
Dec 9, 2024·30m - 125
Some Inconvenient Truths
Nov 17, 2024·25m - 126
Some Political and Personal Stuff, But Some News!
Nov 10, 2024·24m - 127
Reflecting on my Past and Looking Ahead
Oct 27, 2024·34m - 128
Deepak Shukla: 100 Miles Isn't Enough
Oct 7, 2024·44m - 129
Master's Edition: Mironda Meyer: Normalizing Menopause
Sep 29, 2024·59m - 130
Re-pod for a cause
Sep 23, 2024·1h 13m - 131
Discovering Romance Doing What You Love
Sep 9, 2024·32m - 132
Perspective Pays.
Sep 2, 2024·25m - 133
Recommitting, Part ?
Aug 27, 2024·19m - 134
Master's Edition: Courtney Lumpkin Classen
Aug 18, 2024·56m - 135
Using an Ultra Mindset and Other Stories
Aug 4, 2024·39m - 136
Still at It.
Jul 15, 2024·18m - 137
Annnnnd, I'm Back!
Jul 8, 2024·28m - 138
A Brief Hiatus and Big Plans
May 5, 2024·23m - 139
Master's Edition: Robert Gonzales. No Quitting, Always Aspiring.
Apr 15, 2024·1h 25m - 140
Getting Committed
Apr 1, 2024·14m - 141
Remix: Trail Foes and Friends
Mar 18, 2024·25m - 142
Master's Edition: Lisa Tuckwood
Mar 11, 2024·56m - 143
Basics for Beginners
Mar 4, 2024·30m - 144
Satan's Driveway in Plain Sight
Feb 26, 2024·29m - 145
Extraordinary People: Olga Laque and Rustie Johnson
Feb 19, 2024·1h 10m - 146
Extraordinary People: Steve Carter
Feb 12, 2024·1h 10m - 147
Extraordinary People: Kate Motsko
Feb 4, 2024·1h 13m - 148
Master's Edition: Timothy Sneed. Overcoming the RUSH
Jan 28, 2024·1h 29m - 149
Extraordinary People: Meg Eckert
Jan 14, 2024·1h 11m