The Punk Rock MBA

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Heavy music, creator strategy, sharp opinions.

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The Punk Rock MBA sits where metal, hardcore, YouTube, and personal-brand strategy overlap. Conversations move from NAILS guitar tones and Dance Gavin Dance lineup changes to marketing psychology, jiu jitsu, burnout, and gamer hot takes.

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About The Punk Rock MBA

The Punk Rock MBA is a heavy-music and creator-culture show with a business brain and a blunt mouth. It spends real time on the mechanics behind scenes that often get treated as pure attitude: how bands survive lineup changes, how fan communities attach to lore, how guitar parts keep a band’s identity intact, and how online personalities become one-of-one instead of interchangeable. The music interviews are specific. Todd Jones talks through NAILS, new material, lineup changes, hardcore lineage, Japanese hardcore influence, blues vocabulary, and why more expressive guitar can still sound aggressive. Dance Gavin Dance conversations center on Tilian’s departure, creative differences, allegations already addressed by the band, Tim’s loss, fan attachment, upcoming releases, and the sense that the group is larger than any single front person. The show also has a second lane: creator strategy. Marketing is treated as applied psychology, not just posting more or buying ads. The advice favors clarity, niche positioning, credibility, and personality as a real differentiator. That practical streak carries into conversations about YouTube coaching, burnout, haters, and why audiences choose one service provider or creator over another. Then the show swerves. It can argue about Sonic games, Zelda, award shows, Megadeth versus Metallica, Big Mac versus Whopper, CKY, parenting, jiu jitsu, and fitness with the same intensity it brings to band careers. The personal episodes can be heavy, especially when family trauma, addiction, abuse, suicide, and regret enter the frame. The tone is informal, direct, sometimes messy, and often funny in a dry, confrontational way. It is not polished trade-magazine music coverage. It is closer to a working conversation among people who know the culture, have strong opinions, and are willing to say what sounds commercially useful, creatively honest, or simply overrated. That makes the show useful for musicians, YouTubers, marketers, metal fans, hardcore lifers, and anyone interested in how subcultures turn into careers.

Made for: For metal, hardcore, and alternative music fans who also care about YouTube, branding, audience growth, and the business underneath creative work. It especially fits listeners who enjoy direct, scene-literate conversations over polished industry panels.

What sets it apart: The show connects band-world specifics with practical creator and marketing thinking. Few music-business podcasts move so naturally from NAILS guitar choices to niche positioning, jiu jitsu, Sonic games, and YouTube burnout.

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Finn Mckenty of The Punk Rock MBA YouTube channel interviews the best and brightest people in the music industry. Past guests include Anthony Fantano, Avenged Sevenfold, Fronz (Attila), Caleb Shomo (Beartooth), Of Mice & Men, Fear Factory, Spiritbox, and many more.

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Hardcore lineup changes meet Sonic slander, giving your niche interests nowhere to hide.

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  • to hear band members explain creative splits and songwriting choices beyond the polished statement
  • to sharpen your positioning with practical talk about differentiation, audience signals, and personal branding
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Zelda Overrated Are Sonic Games Good AND Finn's FAVORITE Games!Jul 29, 2024

Finn McKenty and the hosts argue over Sonic, with room for a few favorites.

Finn McKenty joins the hosts for an over-or-underrated debate that lands hard on Sonic. They give the nineties mascot his due, then ask whether the games deserve the same affection. Their answer is mostly unforgiving, though Sonic All-Stars Racing gets an eager defense.

Jiu jitsu, dealing with haters, and real talk about fitnessMar 18, 2024

Finn talks belt rank, online criticism, and the limits of his confidence.

Finn tells Travis that a purple belt does not say as much about a grappler as people might think. An older hobbyist himself, he can lose to young, competitive blue belts. He also says some purple belts can beat many black belts.

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  1. 1

    Finn Mckenty on the Chrissie Mayr Podcast

    ·1h 32m
  2. 2

    How to market yourself in 2024

    ·53m
  3. 3

    Debating the State of Rock Music w/ Doc Coyle (Bad Wolves, God Forbid)

    ·2h 15m
  4. 4

    NAILS: New album, lineup changes, Terror & more (Todd Jones)

    ·49m
  5. 5

    DANCE GAVIN DANCE: Tilian's departure, new album, losing Tim & more

    ·35m
  6. 6

    How I went from BROKE to financially secure (and you can too)

    ·33m
  7. 7

    Music Marketing 101 w/ Jesse Cannon, Eyal Levi & Logan Young

    ·1h 6m
  8. 8

    Philosophy of art & why rock fans are stuck in the past...

    ·1h 9m
  9. 9

    If you hate your job, listen to this

    ·36m
  10. 10

    What 99% of businesses DON'T GET about YouTube

    ·37m
  11. 11

    The BRUTAL TRUTH about work/life balance for creators

    ·42m
  12. 12

    My plan for quitting YouTube

    ·52m
  13. 13

    Talking nu-metal, retrogames + more with Last Stand Media

    ·3h 14m
  14. 14

    MySpace deathcore, how Joey Sturgis changed metal + more

    ·57m
  15. 15

    Life lessons from my PAINFUL teen years (cringe)

    ·22m
  16. 16

    Is rock REALLY dying? (Responding to Rick Beato)

    ·27m
  17. 17

    Jiu jitsu, dealing with haters, and real talk about fitness

    ·51m
  18. 18

    Is hip-hop more creative than rock?

    ·24m
  19. 19

    Why rock is DYING (and Twitter hates me)

    ·20m
  20. 20

    Stuck in life? Listen to this (brutally honest advice)

    ·30m
  21. 21

    The BRUTAL TRUTH about being a YouTuber

    ·1h 5m
  22. 22

    Why corporations SUCK at YouTube

    ·30m
  23. 23

    Is metalcore generic trash?

    ·28m
  24. 24

    "Metal Will NEVER Be Popular Again"

    ·25m
  25. 25

    How To Not F*** Up Your 30s

    ·22m
  26. 26

    JIMMY THE GIANT: Hardcore, Rollerblading and weird British subcultures

    ·1h 27m
  27. 27

    Autism, butt rock, starting a business & more (Finn Mckenty on The Akiva Abstract)

    ·1h 9m
  28. 28

    Finn Mckenty on Product Marketing, Punk Rock, and Separating Art and Business

    ·50m
  29. 29

    Finn Mckenty: "How To Make Every Video Go Viral" (Modern Commerce podcast)

    ·1h 43m
  30. 30

    JERIS JOHNSON: The Cold TRUTH About Record Labels

    ·1h 2m
  31. 31

    GOOD CHARLOTTE: Being a pop-punk boy band, Lil Wayne, comic books & more (Billy Martin)

    ·1h 2m
  32. 32

    BEARTOOTH: Depression, Attack Attack, "The Surface," Joey Sturgis & more

    ·1h 1m
  33. 33

    Finn Mckenty on Ronnie Radke, nu-metal, Hayley Williams

    ·1h 6m
  34. 34

    JARED DINES: YouTube burnout, Megadeth fans, dealing with haters & more

    ·1h 10m
  35. 35

    ICE NINE KILLS: Surviving cancer, Polyphia, the state of metal & more

    ·1h 30m
  36. 36

    CODE ORANGE: Selling out, Billy Corgan, the hardcore scene & dissing me

    ·1h 2m
  37. 37

    Zelda Overrated Are Sonic Games Good AND Finn's FAVORITE Games!

    ·1h 3m
  38. 38

    OF MICE & MEN: Going butt rock, Sleep Token, Bad Omens, new album & more

    ·55m
  39. 39

    TESSERACT: Autism, reinventing djent, concept albums and more

    ·55m
  40. 40

    Finn Mckenty on Discipline, Growth Mindset, Life Goals & British Culture

    ·1h 9m
  41. 41

    MXPX: Early years, Tooth & Nail, being a "Christian" band, new album & more

    ·55m
  42. 42

    Finn Mckenty on Epic Meal Time! (Fast food opinions & more)

    ·1h 4m
  43. 43

    MORGOTH BEATZ: The death of rap, Playboy Carti, Yeat, emo rap and more

    ·46m
  44. 44

    ANDRE FILI: Midwest emo, comic book nerds, street fights, UFC & more

    ·1h 36m
  45. 45

    RYAN LONG: Andrew Tate, standup comedy, Jordan Peterson, The Hard Times & more

    ·59m
  46. 46

    RGT 85: Nintendo fanboys, The Acacia Strain, hentai games & more (Punk Rock MBA Podcast)

    ·1h 5m
  47. 47

    JOANNA ANGEL: Starting Burning Angel, Deftones, Suicidegirls & more

    ·1h 16m
  48. 48

    NITA STRAUSS: Why metal guitar is thriving, Demi Lovato, Polyphia & her new album

    ·56m
  49. 49

    BLAIRE WHITE: Being a trans emo kid, Joe Rogan, debating Ben Shapiro & more

    ·1h 17m
  50. 50

    Finn Mckenty on All Things Music podcast

    ·1h 2m
  51. 51

    BRAND OF SACRIFICE: Anime, streetwear & the future of deathcore (Kyle Anderson interview)

    ·54m
  52. 52

    FRONZ (ATTILA): About That Life, being on Made, buying Warped Tour & getting canceled

    ·58m
  53. 53

    SIMPLE PLAN: Pop-punk revival, MGK & being on MTV (Pierre Bouvier interview)

    ·1h 1m
  54. 54

    BRING ME THE HORIZON: Sempiternal, Ed Sheeran & playing metal again (Jordan Fish interview)

    ·1h 6m
  55. 55

    Nik Nocturnal (Youtuber)

    ·1h 7m
  56. 56

    Violent J (Insane Clown Posse)

    ·1h 7m
  57. 57

    Fat Mike (NOFX, Punk Rock Museum)

    ·1h 5m
  58. 58

    Doc Coyle (Bad Wolves, God Forbid)

    ·1h 18m
  59. 59

    Phil Labonte (All That Remains)

    ·1h 11m
  60. 60

    Does Gen Z hate Linkin Park?

    ·18m
  61. 61

    M. Shadows (Avenged Sevenfold)

    ·1h 3m
  62. 62

    The Rise, Fall & Rise Again of PIERCE THE VEIL

    ·20m
  63. 63

    Johnnie Guilbert (YouTuber)

    ·51m
  64. 64

    Bring Me The Horizon and Metal Fandom with Zack Telander

    ·48m
  65. 65

    Jake Luhrs (August Burns Red)

    ·1h
  66. 66

    Why Did Tattoos Stop Being Cool?

    ·25m
  67. 67

    Tank the Tech (YouTuber)

    ·1h 7m
  68. 68

    Food, Music, and Managing Your Own Psychology with Chef Josh K

    ·1h 23m
  69. 69

    Anders Friden (In Flames)

    ·39m
  70. 70

    The Ronnie Radke vs Anthony Fantano BEEF!

    ·19m
  71. 71

    Devin Swank (Sanguisugabogg)

    ·43m
  72. 72

    Making $$ as a YouTuber, ChatGPT, the TikTok Algo & Celebrity Cap Tables

    ·1h 27m
  73. 73

    Vic Fuentes (Pierce the Veil)

    ·32m
  74. 74

    The Grammys Keep Getting Worse

    ·24m
  75. 75

    Mod Sun

    ·51m
  76. 76

    Why I Make Fun of Metal Fans...

    ·22m
  77. 77

    Andy Cizek (Monuments)

    ·52m
  78. 78

    Albums Are Dead (And That's OK...)

    ·24m
  79. 79

    Winston McCall (Parkway Drive)

    ·51m
  80. 80

    Finn Mckenty on Pod of Never

    ·1h 9m
  81. 81

    Johnny Franck (Bilmuri, ex-Attack Attack)

    ·47m
  82. 82

    Finn Mckenty on The Sailor Jerry Podcast

    ·1h 13m
  83. 83

    Shifty Shellshock (Crazy Town)

    ·37m
  84. 84

    Is Nik Nocturnal WRONG about everything??

    ·28m
  85. 85

    Ian Fidance (Comedian)

    ·46m
  86. 86

    Gen Z Ruined Music

    ·25m
  87. 87

    Bradley Hall (YouTuber)

    ·46m
  88. 88

    Why do music nerds love Carly Rae Jepsen?

    ·27m
  89. 89

    Dean Lamb (Archspire)

    ·54m
  90. 90

    When Celebrities Wear Metal Shirts

    ·18m
  91. 91

    Time To Be Honest With You

    ·21m
  92. 92

    Misha Mansoor (Periphery)

    ·59m
  93. 93

    Zack Telander (YouTuber)

    ·56m
  94. 94

    Learning to Like Classic Metal

    ·35m
  95. 95

    Become The Knight

    ·59m
  96. 96

    This Is Why Metal Fans Hate Me

    ·22m
  97. 97

    Sam Carter (Architects)

    ·41m
  98. 98

    Blink-182 vs. Ticketmaster (this is ridiculous!)

    ·16m
  99. 99

    Adam De Micco (Lorna Shore)

    ·48m
  100. 100

    Jiu jitsu, being a parent, Big Mac vs Whopper, CKY & more

    The host shares his personal story of getting into Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu through early UFC events and starting training in Seattle.

    ·27m
  101. 101

    Zelda Overrated Are Sonic Games Good AND Finn's FAVORITE Games!

    Hidden gem

    "Ocarina of Time" is called a tragedy, while "The Legend of Zelda," "Link's Awakening," and "A Link to the Past" are praised.

    Jul 29, 2024·1h 3m·2 clips
  102. 102

    How to market yourself in 2024

    Finn McKinty explains how Procter & Gamble turned a compensating cleaning behavior into Swiffer.

    Jul 22, 2024·53m·2 clips
  103. 103

    Debating the State of Rock Music w/ Doc Coyle (Bad Wolves, God Forbid)

    Jul 15, 2024·2h 15m
  104. 104

    NAILS: New album, lineup changes, Terror & more (Todd Jones)

    Hidden gem

    Todd Jones explains that Nails' August 30 album follows a 2019 two-song release and a longer period of burnout.

    Jul 8, 2024·49m·2 clips
  105. 105

    DANCE GAVIN DANCE: Tilian's departure, new album, losing Tim & more

    Hidden gem

    Chris captures Dance Gavin Dance's sound so precisely that raw tracks can outperform other producers' finished mixes.

    Jul 1, 2024·35m·2 clips
  106. 106

    How I went from BROKE to financially secure (and you can too)

    Jun 24, 2024·33m
  107. 107

    Music Marketing 101 w/ Jesse Cannon, Eyal Levi & Logan Young

    Jun 17, 2024·1h 6m
  108. 108

    Philosophy of art & why rock fans are stuck in the past...

    Jun 7, 2024·1h 9m
  109. 109

    If you hate your job, listen to this

    May 13, 2024·36m
  110. 110

    What 99% of businesses DON'T GET about YouTube

    May 6, 2024·37m
  111. 111

    The BRUTAL TRUTH about work/life balance for creators

    Apr 29, 2024·42m
  112. 112

    My plan for quitting YouTube

    Apr 22, 2024·52m
  113. 113

    Talking nu-metal, retrogames + more with Last Stand Media

    Apr 15, 2024·3h 14m
  114. 114

    MySpace deathcore, how Joey Sturgis changed metal + more

    Apr 8, 2024·57m
  115. 115

    Life lessons from my PAINFUL teen years (cringe)

    Apr 1, 2024·22m
  116. 116

    Is rock REALLY dying? (Responding to Rick Beato)

    Mar 25, 2024·27m
  117. 117

    Jiu jitsu, dealing with haters, and real talk about fitness

    Hidden gem

    Finn McKenzie and Travis tie The Punk Rock MBA's jiu-jitsu talk to Finn's 1999 training under Marcelo Alonso, his 2004–2005 MMA years in Cincinnati, and his purple belt at Kindred Jiu-Jitsu in Edmonds, Washington.

    Mar 18, 2024·51m·2 clips
  118. 118

    Is hip-hop more creative than rock?

    Mar 11, 2024·24m
  119. 119

    Why rock is DYING (and Twitter hates me)

    Mar 4, 2024·20m
  120. 120

    Stuck in life? Listen to this (brutally honest advice)

    Feb 26, 2024·30m
  121. 121

    The BRUTAL TRUTH about being a YouTuber

    Feb 19, 2024·1h 5m
  122. 122

    Why corporations SUCK at YouTube

    Feb 12, 2024·30m
  123. 123

    Is metalcore generic trash?

    Feb 5, 2024·28m
  124. 124

    "Metal Will NEVER Be Popular Again"

    Jan 21, 2024·25m
  125. 125

    How To Not F*** Up Your 30s

    The host shares personal life advice for people in their 30s, reflecting on his own struggles and lessons learned.

    Jan 15, 2024·22m
  126. 126

    JIMMY THE GIANT: Hardcore, Rollerblading and weird British subcultures

    Jan 9, 2024·1h 27m
  127. 127

    Autism, butt rock, starting a business & more (Finn Mckenty on The Akiva Abstract)

    Dec 18, 2023·1h 9m
  128. 128

    Jiu jitsu, being a parent, Big Mac vs Whopper, CKY & more

    Finn Mckenty answers patron questions, starting with how he got into Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu through early UFC.

    Dec 11, 2023·27m
  129. 129

    Finn Mckenty on Product Marketing, Punk Rock, and Separating Art and Business

    Dec 4, 2023·50m
  130. 130

    Finn Mckenty: "How To Make Every Video Go Viral" (Modern Commerce podcast)

    Nov 20, 2023·1h 43m
  131. 131

    JERIS JOHNSON: The Cold TRUTH About Record Labels

    Nov 13, 2023·1h 2m
  132. 132

    GOOD CHARLOTTE: Being a pop-punk boy band, Lil Wayne, comic books & more (Billy Martin)

    Nov 6, 2023·1h 2m
  133. 133

    BEARTOOTH: Depression, Attack Attack, "The Surface," Joey Sturgis & more

    Oct 30, 2023·1h 1m
  134. 134

    Finn Mckenty on Ronnie Radke, nu-metal, Hayley Williams

    Oct 23, 2023·1h 6m
  135. 135

    JARED DINES: YouTube burnout, Megadeth fans, dealing with haters & more

    Finn Mckenty interviews guitarist Jared Dines about the appeal of Megadeth and technical guitar work.

    Oct 16, 2023·1h 10m
  136. 136

    ICE NINE KILLS: Surviving cancer, Polyphia, the state of metal & more

    Oct 9, 2023·1h 30m
  137. 137

    CODE ORANGE: Selling out, Billy Corgan, the hardcore scene & dissing me

    Oct 4, 2023·1h 2m
  138. 138

    Finn Mckenty on the Chrissie Mayr Podcast

    Sep 25, 2023·1h 32m
  139. 139

    OF MICE & MEN: Going butt rock, Sleep Token, Bad Omens, new album & more

    Sep 18, 2023·55m
  140. 140

    TESSERACT: Autism, reinventing djent, concept albums and more

    Sep 11, 2023·55m
  141. 141

    Finn Mckenty on Discipline, Growth Mindset, Life Goals & British Culture

    Sep 4, 2023·1h 9m
  142. 142

    MXPX: Early years, Tooth & Nail, being a "Christian" band, new album & more

    Aug 28, 2023·55m
  143. 143

    Finn Mckenty on Epic Meal Time! (Fast food opinions & more)

    Aug 21, 2023·1h 4m
  144. 144

    MORGOTH BEATZ: The death of rap, Playboy Carti, Yeat, emo rap and more

    Aug 17, 2023·46m
  145. 145

    ANDRE FILI: Midwest emo, comic book nerds, street fights, UFC & more

    Aug 7, 2023·1h 36m
  146. 146

    RYAN LONG: Andrew Tate, standup comedy, Jordan Peterson, The Hard Times & more

    Jul 24, 2023·59m
  147. 147

    RGT 85: Nintendo fanboys, The Acacia Strain, hentai games & more (Punk Rock MBA Podcast)

    Jul 10, 2023·1h 5m
  148. 148

    JOANNA ANGEL: Starting Burning Angel, Deftones, Suicidegirls & more

    Jul 5, 2023·1h 16m
  149. 149

    NITA STRAUSS: Why metal guitar is thriving, Demi Lovato, Polyphia & her new album

    Jun 26, 2023·56m
  150. 150

    BLAIRE WHITE: Being a trans emo kid, Joe Rogan, debating Ben Shapiro & more

    Jun 19, 2023·1h 17m