The Deconstructionists

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Faith after certainty, without the shortcuts.

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The Deconstructionists examines what remains of Christian faith when inherited answers stop working. Through conversations and reflective episodes, John Williamson works through biblical violence, religious trauma, institutional failure, and the possibility of a more honest church.

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About The Deconstructionists

The Deconstructionists is a long-running Christian deconstruction podcast built around faith after certainty. John Williamson hosts conversations and reflective episodes for people who are questioning what they inherited, what harmed them, and what might still be worth keeping. The tone is searching rather than sensational. It is willing to name institutional failure plainly, especially when church systems confuse secrecy with care. Recent episodes with Lillian Daniels center on failure, accountability, clergy discipline, and the future of the church. Those conversations are not abstract. They ask what happens when congregations receive vague warnings, leaders perform vulnerability, and processes designed for safety create new forms of damage. Episodes with Dr. Cristy Carr turn inward, toward religious trauma and the self that gets buried under conformity. The show gives weight to the body, to intuition, to grief, and to the slow work of trusting oneself again. It also returns to scripture with serious questions. A solo episode on violence and the Bible asks how readers handle sacred texts where violence appears commanded, justified, or celebrated. A conversation with John Dominic Crossan and Michael Okinczyc-Cruz presses on justice, Jesus, collaboration with God, and the danger of waiting for divine intervention while avoiding human responsibility. Archive re-releases bring Walter Brueggemann and Dr. Alexander Shaia back into the mix, widening the theological frame through scripture, darkness, radiance, and prophetic imagination. The show does not rush toward replacement certainty. That restraint matters. It understands that leaving one rigid system only to build another can repeat the same pattern in a different vocabulary. Its center is not rebellion for its own sake, but repair: of language, selfhood, community, and faith. The result is candid, pastoral, intellectually curious audio for people who want room to question without being pushed out of the conversation.

Made for: The show suits listeners processing evangelicalism, church harm, biblical questions, or a changing Christian identity. It is especially relevant for people who want honest theological conversation without being rushed back into certainty.

What sets it apart: The Deconstructionists pairs personal recovery language with serious theological and institutional critique. Its range moves from embodied healing and religious trauma to biblical violence, justice, clergy accountability, and archival conversations with theological voices.

In their own words

A podcast about building new faith. Its all about construction, but sometimes that means you have to deconstruct a little. Questions, exploration, mystery...

Why you'd press play

This is where certainty gets cross-examined, and your body is allowed to testify.

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  • to question inherited certainty without replacing it with a shinier certainty
  • to hear John Williamson press theology toward collaboration, justice, and actual accountability
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  1. 1

    RE-RELEASE - Father Richard Rohr "Falling Upward"

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    Ep. 235 - Dr. Cristy Carr "Reclaiming the Forgotten Self" pt. 2

    ·39m
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    Ep. 234 - Dr. Cristy Carr "The Forgotten Self" pt. 1

    ·31m
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    Ep. 233 - Violence and the Bible

    ·30m
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    Ep. 232 - Dr. Michelle Keener "Comfort in the Ashes" pt. 2

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    Ep. 231 - Dr. Michelle Keener "Comfort in the Ashes" pt. 1

    ·36m
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    Ep. 230 - John Dominic Crossan & Michael Okinczyc-Cruz "Jesus and Justice" pt. 2

    ·51m
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    Ep. 229 - John Dominic Crossan & Michael Okinczyc-Cruz "Jesus and Justice" pt. 1

    ·40m
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    Ep. 228 - Valentyn Syniy - "God Under Siege: How War Transformed a Ukrainian Community" pt. 2

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    Ep. 227 - Valentyn Syniy - "God Under Siege: How War Transformed a Ukrainian Community" pt. 1

    ·41m
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    Ep. 226 - Immigration "Process, Not Performance" pt. 3

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    Ep. 225 - Immigration "When Power Asks for Blessing" pt. 2

    ·23m
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    Ep. 224 - Immigration "When Fear Becomes Policy" pt. 1

    ·34m
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    Ep. 223 - Dr. Alexander Shaia "A Holiday Conversation" pt. 2

    ·34m
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    Ep. 221 - Peter Rollins - "Communion, Community, and the Transformative Power of Doubt" Part 2

    ·43m
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    Ep. 220 - Peter Rollins - "Communion, Community, and the Transformative Power of Doubt" Part 1

    ·32m
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    Brand New Patreon!

    ·2m
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    Ep. 219 - Original Sin or Original Blessing?

    ·26m
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    Ep. 218 - Joe Ingle "God behind bars: Dignity, Justice & Prison Ministry" pt. 2

    ·31m
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    Ep. 217 - Joe Ingle "God behind bars: Dignity, Justice & Prison Ministry" pt. 1

    ·36m
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    Ep. 216 - Kerstin Hedlund "Faith on the Frontlines" pt. 2

    ·33m
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    Ep. 215 - Kerstin Hedlund "Faith on the Frontlines" pt. 1

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    Ep. 214 - Hell, The Devil, and Atonement Theories

    ·43m
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    Ep. 213 - Is Deconstruction Bad? (...it's not)

    ·32m
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    Ep. 212 - Does the Bible Really Condemn Same-Sex Relationships?

    ·30m
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    Ep. 211 - Sarah Hurwitz "As A Jew: Reclaiming Our Story" (pt. 2)

    ·34m
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    Ep. 210 - Sarah Hurwitz "As A Jew: Reclaiming Our Story" (pt. 1)

    ·36m
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    Ep. 209 - The History of the Bible: How We Got the Scriptures We Have Today

    ·27m
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    Ep. 206 - Zionism, Gaza, and the Western Church: Untangling a Complicated History

    ·42m
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    Teaser Episode: History on the Margins - The Corpse Synod

    ·14m
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    Ep. 205 - Dr. Paul Swindle "Religious Trauma"

    ·1h 5m
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    Ep. 204 - Adey & Tom Wassink "Sanctuary: Queering a Church in the Heartland" pt. 2

    ·47m
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    Ep. 203 - Adey & Tom Wassink "Sanctuary: Queering a Church in the Heartland" pt. 1

    ·49m
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    Trailer: New Season!

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    Adam & John "Spoiled Fruit: Faith & Power"

    ·1h 42m
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    RE-RELEASE - Richard Rohr "Rohr 101"

    ·1h 25m
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    Ep. 236 - Lillian Daniel "Defrocked: Good News from a Bad Pastor for a Better Church" pt. 1

    ·33m
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    RE-RELEASE - Walter Bruggemann "Struggling with Scripture"

    ·38m
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    Introduction: From The Void Season 7!

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    Ep. 202 - Dr. Garrick Allen "Words Are Not Enough" pt. 2

    ·28m
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    Ep. 201 - Dr. Garrick Allen "Words Are Not Enough" pt. 1

    ·35m
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    BONUS: Nora Creech "The Shroud of Turin"

    ·1h 1m
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    Ep 200 - Tucker S. Ferda "Jesus and His Promised Second Coming" pt. 2

    ·34m
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    Re-Release: Dr. Alexander Shaia "Radiance within the Darkness"

    ·1h 9m
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    Ep. 199 - Tucker S. Ferda "Jesus and His Promised Second Coming" pt. 1

    ·38m
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    Ep. 199 - Dr. Thomas Jay Oord "A Modern Inquisition"

    ·52m
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    Ep. 198 - Thomas Kazen ”Dirt, Shame, Status: Same-Sex Sexuality in the Bible” pt. 2

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    Ep. 197 - Thomas Kazen ”Dirt, Shame, Status: Same-Sex Sexuality in the Bible” pt. 1

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    Ep. 196 - John Dominic Crossan ”Paul The Pharisee” pt. 2

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    Ep. 195 - John Dominic Crossan ”Paul the Pharisee” pt. 1

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    Ep. 194 - Adam Elmasri ”Wounded by Faith”

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    Ep. 193 - Dr. Camden Morgante ”Recovering From Purity Culture” pt. 2

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    Ep. 192 - Dr. Camden Morgante ”Recovering From Purity Culture” pt. 1

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    Ep. 191 - Timothy Morton ”Hell: A Christian Ecology” pt. 2

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    Introducing: From The Void Season 6!

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    Ep. 190 - Timothy Morton ”Hell: A Christian Ecology” pt. 1

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    Ep. 189 - Rabbi Shai Held: Judaism is About Love” pt. 2

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    Ep. 188 - Rabbi Shai Held ”Judaism is About Love” pt. 1

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    Ep. 187 - Carrie Sheffield ”Motorhome Prophesies” pt. 2

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    Ep. 186 - Carrie Sheffield ”Motorhome Prophesies” pt. 1

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    Ep. 185 - Tony Jones ”The God of Wild Places” pt. 2

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    Ep. 184 - Tony Jones ”The God of Wild Places” pt. 1

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    Ep. 183 - Anna Gazmarian ”Devout: A Memoir of Doubt” pt. 2

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    Ep. 182 - Anna Gazmarian ”Devout: A Memoir of Doubt” pt. 1

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    Ep. 181 - Benjamin Laird ”The New Testament” pt. 2

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    Ep. 180 - Benjamin Laird ”The New Testament” pt. 1

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    Season 12 is Coming!!!

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    Ep. 179 - Doug Smith ”Growing up in a cult”

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    Ep. 178 - Sarah Stankorb ”Disobedient Women” pt. 2

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    Ep. 177 - Sarah Stankorb ”Disobedient Women” pt. 1

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    Ep. 176 - Dr. Greg Garrett ”The Gospel According to James Baldwin” pt. 2

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    Ep. 175 - Dr. Greg Garrett ”The Gospel According to James Baldwin” pt. 1

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    Ep. 174 - Rabbi Brad Hirschfield ”Stories From The Old Testament: The Flood” pt. 4

    ·1h 15m
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    Ep. 173 - Rabbi Brad Hirschfield ”Stories from the Old Testament: Cane & Abel” pt. 3

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    Ep. 172 - Dr. Janet Kellogg Ray ”The God of Monkey Science” pt. 2

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    Ep. 171 - Dr. Janet Kellogg Ray ”The God of Monkey Science” pt. 1

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    Ep. 170 - Derek Kubilus ”Holy Hell: A Case Against Eternal Damnation” pt. 2

    ·39m
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    Ep. 169 - Derek Kubilus ”Holy Hell: A Case Against Eternal Damnation” pt. 1

    ·42m
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    Ep. 168 - Dr. Mohammad Khalil ”Understanding Islam” pt. 2

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    Ep. 167 - Dr. Mohammad Khalil ”Understanding Islam” pt. 1

    ·40m
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    Ep. 166 - Rabbi Brad Hirschfield ”Stories of the Old Testament: The Creation Account” pt. 2

    ·30m
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    Ep. 165 - Rabbi Brad Hirschfield ”Stories of the Old Testament: The Creation Account” pt. 1

    ·51m
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    Introducing: From The Void Season 4!

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    Ep. 164 - Rabbi Brad Hirschfield ”Finding Faith without Fanaticism” pt. 2

    ·39m
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    Ep. 163 - Rabbi Brad Hirschfield ”Finding Faith without Fanaticism” pt. 1

    ·29m
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    Ep. 162 - Dr. Chris Hoklotubbe ”Native American Spirituality & The Bible” pt. 2

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    Ep. 161 - Dr. Chris Hoklotubbe ”Native American Spirituality & The Bible” pt. 1

    ·48m
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    Ep. 160 - Thomas Jay Oord ”The Death of Omnipotence and Birth of Amipotence”

    ·30m
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    Ep. 159 - Jodi Magness ”Archeology & The Dead Sea Scrolls” pt. 2

    ·48m
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    Ep. 158 - Jodi Magness ”Archeology & The Dead Sea Scrolls” pt. 1

    ·38m
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    Ep. 157 - Dr. Dan McClellan ”Data Over Dogma” pt. 2

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    Ep. 156 - Dr. Dan McClellan ”Data Over Dogma” pt. 1

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    Ep. 155 - Stephen Prothero ”God The Bestseller”

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    Ep. 154 - Pete Enns - ”Curveball: When Your Faith Takes Turns You Never Saw Coming” pt. 2

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    Ep. 153 - Pete Enns ”Curveball: When Your Faith Takes a Turn You Never Saw Coming” pt. 1

    ·49m
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    Ep. 152 - Amy Bloom ”In Love: A Memoir of Love and Loss”

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    Ep. 151 - Dr. Jacqueline Bussie ”When Love Hurts” pt. 2

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    Ep. 208 - Bailey Krawczyk "Lights, Camera, Control: Hillsong from the Inside" (Part 2)

    Bailey Krawczyk discusses systemic issues and high-control tactics at Hillsong Church, reflecting on celebrity pastor culture and the aftermath of the Hillsong documentary.

    ·40m
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    Ep. 222 - Dr. Alexander Shaia "A Holiday Conversation" pt. 1

    Dr.

    ·34m
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    Ep. 207 - Bailey Krawczyk "Lights, Camera, Control: Hillsong from the Inside" (Part 1)

    Bailey Krawczyk discusses her experience inside Hillsong, the controlling culture, and her journey to questioning it.

    ·41m
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    Ep. 237 - Lillian Daniels "Failure, Accountability & the Future of the Church" pt. 2

    Hidden gem

    On The Deconstructionist Podcast, Lillian Daniels says clergy often dress up shallow self-disclosure as vulnerability while real harm stays hidden.

    Apr 16, 2026·46m·3 clips
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    Ep. 236 - Lillian Daniel "Defrocked: Good News from a Bad Pastor for a Better Church" pt. 1

    Lillian Daniel tells John Williamson how a delayed ministerial fitness review followed an inappropriate relationship with a staff member during the week of her divorce.

    Apr 9, 2026·33m·2 clips
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    Ep. 235 - Dr. Cristy Carr "Reclaiming the Forgotten Self" pt. 2

    The Deconstructionists host John Williamson and Dr.

    Apr 1, 2026·39m·2 clips
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    Ep. 234 - Dr. Cristy Carr "The Forgotten Self" pt. 1

    The Deconstructionists host John Williamson interviews Dr.

    Mar 26, 2026·31m·2 clips
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    Ep. 233 - Violence and the Bible

    John Williamson explores the problem of violence in the Bible and whether it can ever be justified, prompted by a church discussion.

    Mar 18, 2026·30m
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    Ep. 232 - Dr. Michelle Keener "Comfort in the Ashes" pt. 2

    Mar 9, 2026·32m
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    Ep. 231 - Dr. Michelle Keener "Comfort in the Ashes" pt. 1

    Mar 2, 2026·36m
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    Ep. 230 - John Dominic Crossan & Michael Okinczyc-Cruz "Jesus and Justice" pt. 2

    Hidden gem

    ["The Deconstructionists episode on Jesus and Justice pt.

    Feb 24, 2026·51m·5 clips
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    Ep. 229 - John Dominic Crossan & Michael Okinczyc-Cruz "Jesus and Justice" pt. 1

    Feb 18, 2026·40m
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    Ep. 228 - Valentyn Syniy - "God Under Siege: How War Transformed a Ukrainian Community" pt. 2

    Feb 9, 2026·19m
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    Ep. 227 - Valentyn Syniy - "God Under Siege: How War Transformed a Ukrainian Community" pt. 1

    Feb 2, 2026·41m
  112. 112

    Ep. 226 - Immigration "Process, Not Performance" pt. 3

    Jan 30, 2026·20m
  113. 113

    Ep. 225 - Immigration "When Power Asks for Blessing" pt. 2

    Jan 28, 2026·23m
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    Ep. 224 - Immigration "When Fear Becomes Policy" pt. 1

    Jan 26, 2026·34m
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    Ep. 223 - Dr. Alexander Shaia "A Holiday Conversation" pt. 2

    Jan 12, 2026·34m
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    Ep. 222 - Dr. Alexander Shaia "A Holiday Conversation" pt. 1

    Dec 23, 2025·34m
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    Ep. 221 - Peter Rollins - "Communion, Community, and the Transformative Power of Doubt" Part 2

    Dec 15, 2025·43m
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    Ep. 220 - Peter Rollins - "Communion, Community, and the Transformative Power of Doubt" Part 1

    Dec 8, 2025·32m
  119. 119

    Brand New Patreon!

    Dec 5, 2025·2m
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    Ep. 219 - Original Sin or Original Blessing?

    Dec 1, 2025·26m
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    Ep. 218 - Joe Ingle "God behind bars: Dignity, Justice & Prison Ministry" pt. 2

    Nov 28, 2025·31m
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    Ep. 217 - Joe Ingle "God behind bars: Dignity, Justice & Prison Ministry" pt. 1

    Nov 19, 2025·36m
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    Ep. 216 - Kerstin Hedlund "Faith on the Frontlines" pt. 2

    Nov 10, 2025·33m
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    Ep. 215 - Kerstin Hedlund "Faith on the Frontlines" pt. 1

    Nov 3, 2025·27m
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    Ep. 214 - Hell, The Devil, and Atonement Theories

    Oct 27, 2025·43m
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    Ep. 213 - Is Deconstruction Bad? (...it's not)

    Oct 20, 2025·32m
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    Ep. 212 - Does the Bible Really Condemn Same-Sex Relationships?

    Oct 13, 2025·30m
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    Ep. 211 - Sarah Hurwitz "As A Jew: Reclaiming Our Story" (pt. 2)

    Oct 6, 2025·34m
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    Ep. 210 - Sarah Hurwitz "As A Jew: Reclaiming Our Story" (pt. 1)

    Sep 29, 2025·36m
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    Ep. 209 - The History of the Bible: How We Got the Scriptures We Have Today

    Sep 22, 2025·27m
  131. 131

    Ep. 208 - Bailey Krawczyk "Lights, Camera, Control: Hillsong from the Inside" (Part 2)

    Sep 15, 2025·40m
  132. 132

    Ep. 207 - Bailey Krawczyk "Lights, Camera, Control: Hillsong from the Inside" (Part 1)

    Sep 8, 2025·41m
  133. 133

    Ep. 206 - Zionism, Gaza, and the Western Church: Untangling a Complicated History

    Sep 1, 2025·42m
  134. 134

    Teaser Episode: History on the Margins - The Corpse Synod

    Aug 26, 2025·14m
  135. 135

    Ep. 205 - Dr. Paul Swindle "Religious Trauma"

    Aug 18, 2025·1h 5m
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    Ep. 204 - Adey & Tom Wassink "Sanctuary: Queering a Church in the Heartland" pt. 2

    Aug 11, 2025·47m
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    Ep. 203 - Adey & Tom Wassink "Sanctuary: Queering a Church in the Heartland" pt. 1

    Aug 4, 2025·49m
  138. 138

    Adam & John "Spoiled Fruit: Faith & Power"

    May 6, 2025·1h 42m
  139. 139

    RE-RELEASE - Richard Rohr "Rohr 101"

    Apr 28, 2025·1h 25m
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    RE-RELEASE - Father Richard Rohr "Falling Upward"

    Apr 4, 2025·1h 20m
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    RE-RELEASE - Walter Bruggemann "Struggling with Scripture"

    A re-release of a conversation with theologian Walter Brueggemann about struggling with scripture, introduced by host John Williamson with news about a new investigative podcast.

    Mar 25, 2025·38m
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    Ep. 202 - Dr. Garrick Allen "Words Are Not Enough" pt. 2

    Jan 20, 2025·28m
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    Ep. 201 - Dr. Garrick Allen "Words Are Not Enough" pt. 1

    Jan 13, 2025·35m
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    BONUS: Nora Creech "The Shroud of Turin"

    Dec 30, 2024·1h 1m
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    Ep 200 - Tucker S. Ferda "Jesus and His Promised Second Coming" pt. 2

    Dec 26, 2024·34m
  146. 146

    Re-Release: Dr. Alexander Shaia "Radiance within the Darkness"

    Hidden gem

    John Williamson re-releases a 2017 Christmas conversation with Dr.

    Dec 25, 2024·1h 9m·5 clips
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    Ep. 199 - Tucker S. Ferda "Jesus and His Promised Second Coming" pt. 1

    Dec 17, 2024·38m
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    Ep. 199 - Dr. Thomas Jay Oord "A Modern Inquisition"

    Dec 12, 2024·52m