The Capital Cycle Podcast

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Edward Chancellor, the distinguished financial historian, author and journalist interviews investors from Marathon Asset Management [Marathon London] about their latest views on the investment landscape. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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A cardboard box gets an investment thesis; your recycling pile may never look quite so boring.

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  • to hear Edward Chancellor ask investors what happens when an industry adds capacity
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Capital Account Book

A measured tour of capital cycle thinking, with buybacks, advertising cuts, and executive incentives in view.

Capital Account returns to a Marathon title that helped move capital cycle analysis from a private framework into a wider investing conversation, and the episode uses the book as a springboard rather than a crutch.

Boxing Day Gift

A calm cyclical case that links demand weakness, substitution, and valuation without overselling the story.

Robert Anstey makes a calm case for cardboard boxes. He ties the pandemic distortions, weak housing turnover, and three years of industrial weakness to a demand picture that still sits below trend.

AI Eats Software?

A sober capital-cycle view of AI pressure on software valuations.

The episode treats AI less as a buzzword than as a shock to software capacity, then uses that frame to revisit the old SaaS trade from the top of the market down.

Job Lot on Sale

A disciplined look at network effects, platform friction, and self-funded growth.

The discussion tracks a clear market story: a Chinese online recruitment business becomes more valuable as more people use it. Kai Chen is at his best when he moves from definition to mechanism, showing how direct chat and fee-based recommendations make the service more useful…

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Episodes

  1. 1

    AI Eats Software?

    Hidden gem

    Edward Chancellor interviews Tom Warren of Marathon Asset Management to analyze why SaaS (Software as a Service) companies have crashed from market darlings to pariahs.

    ·16m·1 clip
  2. 2

    The Tyranny of the Index

    The episode introduces a discussion on using historical investment data from the Global Investment Returns Yearbook to help active managers in emerging markets navigate information overload and focus on long-term trends.

    ·21m
  3. 3

    Aircraft Leasing Lift-Off

    ·19m
  4. 4

    Capital Account Book

    Hidden gem

    Capital Account became hard to find.

    ·46m·2 clips
  5. 5

    Boxing Day Gift

    Hidden gem

    Portfolio manager Robert Anstey explains his investment thesis in US cardboard box manufacturers, arguing that industry consolidation, weak post-pandemic demand, and new management focusing on value over volume create an attractive opportunity.

    ·16m·1 clip
  6. 6

    Job Lot on Sale

    Hidden gem

    Edward Chancellor interviews Kai Chen, an analyst at Marathon Asset Management, who makes a detailed investment case for KanZhen, the company behind the Chinese online recruitment platform Boss Zhipin.

    ·17m·1 clip
  7. 7

    Masters of the Air

    Edward Chancellor interviews Ben Slingsby about the capital cycle in European aerospace, focusing on aircraft engine manufacturers and starting with a history of European aviation.

    Mar 31, 2026·13m
  8. 8

    Churn Chat

    A fictional board meeting of Stanley Chern, an opportunistic financier, discussing the massive scale of AI infrastructure investments and the progress of Chern GPT-6.

    Dec 23, 2025·7m
  9. 9

    Barbarous Relics

    Hidden gem

    Edward Chancellor interviews Laura Fyfe about emerging market capital cycles and attractive investment opportunities from a capital cycle perspective.

    Nov 26, 2025·19m·1 clip
  10. 10

    A Different Network Effect

    Edward Chancellor interviews Ben Slingsby about the investment case for European utility stocks, driven by AI data center power demand.

    Nov 26, 2025·12m
  11. 11

    AI: Mad Maths?

    Hidden gem

    Edward Chancellor and Charles Carter compare the AI capital-spending boom with the late-1990s dot-com cycle and question whether projected returns justify current investment.

    Sep 30, 2025·21m·1 clip
  12. 12

    The Long Tail

    Edward Chancellor interviews Tom Warren about Marathon's capital cycle investment philosophy and how they evaluate management's capital allocation decisions.

    Sep 30, 2025·13m
  13. 13

    Mucky Business

    Hidden gem

    Rob Anstey examines Secure Waste Infrastructure, a Canadian oil-industry waste operator with about 70% of energy-waste disposal and a 3.5 billion Canadian dollar market value.

    Aug 29, 2025·18m·1 clip
  14. 14

    Chinese Property Opportunity

    Hidden gem

    Edward Chancellor and Marathon's Kai Chen examine whether China's property slump, with prices falling continuously since August 2021, will follow the US post-2008 consolidation or Japan's post-1990 fragmentation.

    Aug 29, 2025·26m·1 clip
  15. 15

    Greek Banking Odyssey

    Hidden gem

    Laura Fyfe presents Greek banking as a post-crisis consolidation story, with four banks now holding 95% of sector assets after more than 40 existed before the crisis.

    Jun 30, 2025·16m·1 clip
  16. 16

    Japan Merger Mania

    Edward Chancellor interviews Justin Hill about the shareholder value revolution in Japan, covering macro and micro factors driving corporate change.

    Jun 30, 2025·21m
  17. 17

    US Small Caps: Margin of Safety

    May 30, 2025·13m
  18. 18

    Platinum Bombed

    Edward Chancellor interviews Alex Duffy about the contrarian investment opportunity in platinum group metals mining companies due to depressed prices and demand uncertainty.

    May 30, 2025·23m
  19. 19

    Founder’s Story

    Edward Chancellor interviews Marathon co-founder Neil Ostra about the firm's founding, investment philosophy, and lessons from past market bubbles.

    May 1, 2025·47m
  20. 20

    Fish Tales

    Mar 31, 2025·14m
  21. 21

    Whitbread

    Mar 31, 2025·19m
  22. 22

    Robustness Ratio Revisited

    Feb 28, 2025·14m
  23. 23

    Dassault Systèmes

    Feb 28, 2025·17m
  24. 24

    Fishing in Uncrowded Waters

    Dec 20, 2024·17m
  25. 25

    Investment Bankers and the Capital Cycle

    Edward Chancellor interviews Charles Carter about the role of investment banking from a capital cycle perspective, discussing the shift from relationship-oriented to transactional banking.

    Dec 20, 2024·21m
  26. 26

    US Small Caps: One Size Fits All

    Nov 29, 2024·20m
  27. 27

    AI: Scaling Flaw

    Nov 29, 2024·18m
  28. 28

    Shareholder Value in Japan

    Sep 30, 2024·17m
  29. 29

    China vs. India

    Edward Chancellor interviews Alex Duffy about using the capital cycle to analyze entire markets, explaining why China has underperformed and India has outperformed.

    Sep 30, 2024·21m
  30. 30

    Telecom-Moditization

    Sep 6, 2024·17m
  31. 31

    Japanese Crown Jewels

    Sep 6, 2024·16m
  32. 32

    When Two Worlds Collide

    Aug 6, 2024·18m
  33. 33

    Copper Turns To Gold

    Aug 2, 2024·16m