The Capital Cycle Podcast · Marathon Asset Management

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Robert Anstey explains his portfolio is 'chock full of boring businesses' that AI has no impact on whatsoever.
Portfolio manager Robert Anstey explains his investment thesis in US cardboard box manufacturers, arguing that industry consolidation, weak post-pandemic demand, and new management focusing on value over volume create an attractive opportunity. He details the specific case of Smurfit Westrock and discusses broader capital cycle themes in 'boring' industrial businesses.

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A calm cyclical case that links demand weakness, substitution, and valuation without overselling the story.

Robert Anstey makes a calm case for cardboard boxes. He ties the pandemic distortions, weak housing turnover, and three years of industrial weakness to a demand picture that still sits below trend.

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A quiet case for cardboard, valuation, and an industrial slump that still has room to recover.

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