A practical look at how creator marketing is changing for Australian brands.
Australian influencer marketing takes center stage here, with Trish McGee and James asking a simple question: how do creators and brands work together better in 2026?

Practical marketing thinking for Australian marketers.
Smarter Marketer brings agency leaders, marketers, researchers, and business operators into focused conversations about what works in modern marketing. The tone is calm and useful, with regular attention to Australian and APAC market evidence rather than imported assumptions.
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Smarter Marketer is a measured, interview-led show about marketing strategy in the Australian business context. It is built for people who already work in the field and want sharper thinking rather than introductory explanation. Recent episodes cover creator marketing, B2B buyer behavior, AI in marketing workflows, agency models, brand building, creative effectiveness, and the changing media and events landscape. The show keeps returning to one question: what changes in practice? That gives the conversations a useful discipline. A discussion about influencer marketing becomes a conversation about briefs, authenticity, platform fit, negotiation, and the value of agency experience. A panel on digital marketing in 2026 moves through AI-assisted research, voice prompting, owned channels, CPC pressure, and the need to reduce dependency on paid media. An episode with Lisa Macqueen treats commercial cleaning as a serious brand problem, asking how a business can stand out when the category looks like a utility purchase. Stuart Jaffray brings the conversation into B2B buying groups, procurement behavior, AI search, and the gap between marketer preference and audience reality. Alex Hayes adds a media and communications lens, especially around the end of SXSW Sydney and the craft of marketing to marketers. Jules Hall gives creative work its due while insisting that businesses need the calculator as well as the idea. Robert Cialdini brings persuasion back to credibility, shared identity, and honest framing. Darren Woolley challenges easy assumptions about in-housing, agency productivity, cost, speed, quality, and client relationships. Across these episodes, the show favors examples over hype. It is not cold, though. The tone can be warm and lightly dry, especially when experienced guests are allowed to push back or sharpen a point. Its main value is editorial focus: ideas are allowed to be interesting, but they still have to survive contact with budgets, teams, buyers, and business pressure.
Made for: For Australian marketers, agency leaders, brand owners, and B2B teams who want commercially grounded conversations about strategy, channels, creative work, and buyer behavior.
What sets it apart: It stands apart through its repeated use of Australian and APAC market context, plus a steady habit of turning broad marketing claims into decisions a working team could actually make.
Hosted by James Lawrence - Co-Founder of Rocket Agency and B&T Marketer of the Year finalist, each episode features candid conversations with marketers, leaders and innovators on what’s really working in today’s fast-changing landscape. This is the definitive podcast for Australian Marketers.
Based on 5 episodes we listened to · September 2026
Smarter Marketer connects marketing ideas to budgets, team structures and commercial outcomes through pointed conversations with agency leaders and researchers.
Smarter Marketer keeps marketing tethered to business consequences. James Lawrence uses interviews and an occasional panel discussion to move from broad ideas about creativity, influence and emerging channels toward decisions about budgets, team design and measurable value.
A redundancy bill enters the 'in-house is cheaper' conversation, and suddenly you want a calculator.
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Short reviews from the PlayNext desk, based on the episodes we processed.
A practical look at how creator marketing is changing for Australian brands.
Australian influencer marketing takes center stage here, with Trish McGee and James asking a simple question: how do creators and brands work together better in 2026?
A practical Q&A that argues for owned channels, sensible AI use, and less dependence on paid media.
Smarter Marketer frames a webinar-turned-podcast around practical digital marketing questions and a clear case for owning more than paid media.
A grounded case for creativity that still has to justify itself commercially.
Jules Hall makes a steady case that creativity still sits at the center of marketing, but only when it is backed by the numbers that help businesses justify the spend.
A grounded look at persuasion built around credibility, shared identity, and practical influence.
Robert Cialdini treats persuasion as more than a set of tactics. The discussion frames it as a way to understand credibility, identity, and why people say yes, while moving through the classic six principles of influence and his newer idea of unity.
A clear-eyed look at what in-housing costs, and how its value gets measured.
Darren Woolley turns the in-housing debate into a practical business question: what changes when the work moves inside, and which costs surface once the old assumptions fall away.

Simon Owens interviews founders about the revenue mechanics behind their media businesses.

Colin and Samir break down creator-economy news, from OpenAI's TBPN deal to AI podcasts.

AI-era marketing tactics from operators testing what works next.

Mark DeGrasse interviews agency and marketing operators on the frameworks behind their case studies.

Cory Cotten-Potter interviews B2B sales and marketing founders on AI's reshaping of pipeline generation.

Kristina Halvorson interviews content strategists about how the work actually gets done.
Australian creator marketing comes across as practical, local, and a bit more grown up than the usual trend chatter.
Paid media dependency gets treated as a risk, not just a budget line.
This episode features an interview with Lisa Macqueen, CEO of Clean Corp, discussing how to build a standout brand and effective marketing strategies in a traditionally unglamorous industry like commercial cleaning.
This episode discusses the APAC B2B Buyer Journey Research Report, exploring how B2B marketing needs to adapt to changing buyer groups, digital-first audiences, and procurement processes in regions like Australia.
This episode discusses the end of SXSW in Sydney, the craft of marketing to marketers, and upcoming changes in 2026 with Alex Hayes, founder of Clear Hayes.
James speaks with Jules Hall about why creativity still sits at the center of effective marketing.
James sits down with Robert Cialdini to talk about how persuasion works in practice.
James speaks with Darren Woolley about why the in-house versus agency debate is often too neatly framed.
This episode explores how to build desire and demand in luxury and property markets through psychological principles like loss aversion and regret prevention, featuring insights from marketing expert Giverny Reid.
This episode features Rand Fishkin discussing the evolution of search, comparing Google and ChatGPT, exploring attribution versus measurement in marketing, and examining the future of audience research.
This episode features an interview with Fleur Brown, author of 'The Business of Being You,' discussing how marketers can build their personal brand to increase their value to organizations and advance their careers.
This episode discusses how to fix a failing marketing campaign using the DREAM framework (Diagnose, Research, Enhance, Allocate, Measure) with insights on the importance of creative impact.
This episode discusses the current state of AI in marketing, exploring the hype versus reality, with insights from an agency perspective on how businesses are leveraging AI and its limitations compared to human content.