Pneu Pneuma Godcast

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Prison testimony, plain Scripture and honest talk about race.

The gist

Pneu Pneuma Godcast builds its Bible talk around guests' stories: a refugee's path through gangs and jail to church planting, a slow turn back to God, a reading of the Song of Solomon about raising daughters. Norman Brown, known as Norm the Professor, keeps the tone relaxed and still presses on race in America.

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About Pneu Pneuma Godcast

Pneu Pneuma Godcast is a Christian podcast that uses a guest's life story as a way into Scripture, and Scripture as a way to read the story back. Norman Brown, who goes by Norm the Professor, runs the conversations with easy warmth: guests get called 'bro', and sign-offs land on a plain 'Peace.' The warmth does not soften the questions. He asks one guest when the repentance actually happened, and asks another whether getting born again in jail changed how other inmates dealt with a new believer. The answers are specific. Across episodes titled with the word 'Diamond', Vonna N recounts coming to the United States as a Cambodian refugee born in Vietnam and a family that took up shrimping in Texas, along with gang life and time locked up. Inside, by that account, everything came down to respect, and 'turn the other cheek' was a hard teaching to hold when someone was testing for weakness. The story carries on to Fresno Pacific University, a youth pastor job with the Mennonite Brethren, and a resignation made in order to plant a church. Around that testimony the conversation widens. Joining a gang is traced back to feeling abandoned by family. America's failure to acknowledge wrongs against First Nations people, African Americans, the Chinese who built a railroad and Filipinos kept from buying property is named as a wound that has not healed. Norman presses the point himself, asking why the country seems to want everyone to just get over it. One answer is practical: teach African-American and Chicano and Latino history in elementary, junior high and high school, not only in college. The Bible teaching is just as direct. In the Kenneth Chong episodes the talk covers a repentance that came gradually, a church that preached sound doctrine instead of prosperity or self-help, and a marriage where the hard lesson was that the problem is you. Those conversations also push back on preaching that advertises what the cross does for people while leaving out the cross itself, drawing on John 4, John 21 and Paul's 'Christ and him crucified.' Myron Cooper, back for a second interview, brings a reading of the Song of Solomon that Norman says changed how he sees daughters, in an episode labelled as part one. Across all of it the register barely shifts, and the same relaxed back-and-forth carries prison, race, marriage and fatherhood alike. The Vonna N episodes best show how the show stays with one life over several sittings, while the Kenneth Chong conversations show its preaching instincts most clearly. It suits a listener who wants faith talk anchored in the text and willing to sit with hard histories.

Made for: Suits a listener who wants Christian conversation that stays close to Scripture while taking on prison, gang life, racism and marriage in plain, unpolished language.

What sets it apart: It sets personal testimony about gangs, prison and a refugee upbringing beside close readings of John, Paul and the Song of Solomon. Race and America's unacknowledged history are treated as part of the faith conversation, not as a separate topic.

In their own words

Pneu Pneuma (New Life) is the Urban Voice of Christian podcasts, hosted by Norman Brown aka @normtheprofessor, and founded in Baltimore, Maryland.Blending biblical scholarship with real-world, street-level insight, this podcast exists to help Believers discover who they really are in Christ—while engaging the hard conversations many churches across America and Western-influenced nations refuse to touch due to political influence.This is faith without filters—raw truth, not religion. To support us:Cashapp: $PneuPneuma (U.S. only)PayPal: [email protected]

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Turning the other cheek gets complicated in prison; you might appreciate a faith conversation that admits it.

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  • to hear Norman Brown ask what faith asks of someone being tested by other inmates
  • to understand how a Cambodian refugee connects family hurt with finding refuge in a gang
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  1. 1

    Blessed Or Lucky? | The Differences Between Them (EP 216)

    ·38m
  2. 2

    Only 'Eustress' From Bastress (EP 196)

    ·47m
  3. 3

    Keeping Up With The Coopers: After COVID (EP 195)

    ·51m
  4. 4

    Cooper-ation: Myron Cooper Talks Early Life (EP 194)

    ·54m
  5. 5

    Ethnic Beefs In The Church - Pt 3

    ·55m
  6. 6

    Ethnic Beefs In The Church - Pt 2

    ·56m
  7. 7

    Ethnic Beefs In The Church - Pt 1

    ·53m
  8. 8

    EP 246 Diamond Unbroken - Diamond Cut: Freedom Isn’t Free: Re-Entry, Restoration, and Rebuilding a Life

    ·33m
  9. 9

    EP 245 Diamond Refined - Eight Years Inside: Prison, Power, Faith, and the Moment God Spoke

    ·32m
  10. 10

    EP 244 Diamond Forged: From Refugee to the Streets: Trauma, Identity, and the Roots of Gang Life

    ·33m
  11. 11

    EP 243 Truth Under Fire: Racism, Marriage, and Walking Out the Faith: Kenneth Chong

    ·36m
  12. 12

    EP 242 Running from God: Sin, Sovereignty, and the Long Road Back: Kenneth Chong

    ·35m
  13. 13

    From Isolation to Identity: Brotherhood Forged in Pressure: Kenneth Chong #241

    ·35m
  14. 14

    Raising Daughters: Conversation with Myron Pt 1 #241

    ·42m
  15. 15

    "Dale Mast: Faith, Destiny and Identity - Exclusive Interview" #239

    ·43m
  16. 16

    "A Man Of Steel: Forgiveness and Transformation" #238

    ·34m
  17. 17

    "A Man Of Steel: Juveniles, Struggles and Divine Intervention" #237

    ·32m
  18. 18

    "A Man of Steel: The Law, Golf and God (Bruce Kent)" #236

    ·33m
  19. 19

    "A Man of Steel: Bruce Kent" Pt 1 (#235)

    ·33m
  20. 20

    A Journey of Financial and Spiritual Stewardship: Beatty Carmichael Part 2 (#234)

    ·46m
  21. 21

    Faith, Family, and the South: Beatty Carmichael's Journey Part 1 (#233)

    ·45m
  22. 22

    When Does Life Begin? Part 4 (EP#232)

    ·43m
  23. 23

    When Does Life Begin? Part 3 (EP231)

    ·41m
  24. 24

    When Does Life Begin? Part 2 (EP#230)

    ·40m
  25. 25

    When Does Life Begin? - Part 1 (EP#229)

    ·41m
  26. 26

    No "Walls" With Young Life: Brian Walls EP#228

    ·1h
  27. 27

    Mission-eering: 'Taylor' Made By Tim (#227)

    ·1h 23m
  28. 28

    Adam Bower: Only Bows To One (#226)

    ·1h 34m
  29. 29

    Carefully Carrying The Anointing Pt 1 (#224)

    ·47m
  30. 30

    "Colombia" University: Higher Learning With Lenny (#223)

    ·2h 45m
  31. 31

    Charles Washington: Sunshine On The Horizon (#222)

    ·1h 4m
  32. 32

    Revelation vs Private Interpretation (#221)

    ·1h 36m
  33. 33

    Pride Before The Fall (#220)

    ·1h 43m
  34. 34

    Captain Marvel: Feminism's Hero #219

    ·51m
  35. 35

    Did You Pay The Price? #218

    ·44m
  36. 36

    EP 217 - To Fear Or Not to Fear: A Response to Andrew Tate

    ·55m
  37. 37

    Awake to Wake Ministries (EP 197)

    ·49m
  38. 38

    Raising Daughters (Part 3)

    ·30m
  39. 39

    Raising Daughters (Part 2)

    ·27m
  40. 40

    Raising Daughters (Part 1)

    ·28m
  41. 41

    Apostasy - Part 4 of 4 (EP 212)

    ·43m
  42. 42

    Apostasy - Part 3 of 4 (EP 211)

    ·43m
  43. 43

    Apostasy - Part 2 of 4 (EP 210)

    ·42m
  44. 44

    Apostasy - Part 1 of 4 (EP 209)

    ·43m
  45. 45

    Misquoted, Misappropriated and Misunderstood Scriptures Part 9

    ·18m
  46. 46

    Misquoted Misappropriated and Misunderstood Scriptures Part 8

    ·15m
  47. 47

    Misquoted, Misappropriated and Misunderstood Scriptures - Part 7

    ·16m
  48. 48

    Misquoted, Misappropriated and Misunderstood Scriptures - Part 6

    ·15m
  49. 49

    Misquoted, Misappropriated and Misunderstood Scriptures Pt 5

    ·16m
  50. 50

    Misquoted, Misappropriated and Misunderstood Scriptures (Part 4) - EP 203

    ·16m
  51. 51

    Misquoted, Misappropriated and Misunderstood Scriptures (Part 3) - EP 202

    ·16m
  52. 52

    Misquoted, Misappropriated and Misunderstood Scriptures (Part 2) - EP 201

    ·16m
  53. 53

    Misquoted, Misappropriated and Misunderstood Scriptures (Part 1) - EP 200

    ·16m
  54. 54

    From Real Estate to Kingdom Building: Apostle Doug Johnson Part 2

    ·41m
  55. 55

    From Drug Dealer To Hope Dealer: Apostle Doug Johnson Part 1 (EP 198)

    ·43m
  56. 56

    The Four People You Marry: Bill and Traci Vanderbush

    ·1h 2m
  57. 57

    Jason Lee Jones on His Abusive Stepfather

    ·10m
  58. 58

    Holy in Hollywood: Lori Livingston

    ·53m
  59. 59

    Almost Human Trafficked: Lori Livingston

    ·51m
  60. 60

    Marvel Universe's Lori Livingston

    ·51m
  61. 61

    EP 186 Precise Aka Bob Young: "Resistance Iz Futile"

    ·1h 3m
  62. 62

    EP 185 Precise aka Bob Young: "Hypnosis"

    ·1h
  63. 63

    EP184 Believin Stephen: Battling Unbelief

    ·57m
  64. 64

    EP183 Believin Stephen: The Perseverance

    ·1h 8m
  65. 65

    EP182 Georgian Banov: Joy, His Secret Weapon

    ·56m
  66. 66

    EP181 Georgian Banov on How He Survived & Escaped Communism

    ·58m
  67. 67

    EP180 Just Mercy: Movie Review

    ·1h 22m
  68. 68

    EP179 The Feminization of Fathers - Clubhouse Discussion Pt 3

    ·46m
  69. 69

    EP178 The Feminization of Fathers - Clubhouse Discussion Pt 2

    ·51m
  70. 70

    Jason Lee Jones: Discovering His Gift

    ·5m
  71. 71

    EP177 The Uncovery: Healing Through Community

    ·1h 20m
  72. 72

    Jason Lee Jones on His Calling

    ·6m
  73. 73

    EP176 The Feminization of Fathers - Clubhouse Discussion Pt 1

    ·51m
  74. 74

    EP175 - Jason Lee Jones: The Godbreed

    ·1h 10m
  75. 75

    Jason Lee Jones: The Brazilian Drug Lord's Invitation

    ·3m
  76. 76

    #174 - Does God Judge Us By Our Thoughts, Actions or Both?

    ·1h 25m
  77. 77

    #173 - Does God Judge Us By Our Thoughts, Actions or Both?

    ·1h 30m
  78. 78

    #172 - Juneteenth: Celebrating Freedom

    ·37m
  79. 79

    #171 - Roe vs. Wade: Will It Be Overturned?

    ·1h 19m
  80. 80

    #170 God's Perfect Woman: The Church, The Bride and The Ladies (Part 6)

    ·57m
  81. 81

    #169 God's Perfect Woman: The Church, The Bride and The Ladies (Part 5)

    ·56m
  82. 82

    #168 God's Perfect Woman: The Church, The Bride and The Ladies (Part 4)

    ·45m
  83. 83

    #167 God's Perfect Woman: The Church, The Bride and The Ladies (Part 3)

    ·45m
  84. 84

    #166 God's Perfect Woman: The Church, The Bride and The Ladies (Part 2)

    ·1h 10m
  85. 85

    #165 God's Perfect Woman: The Church, The Bride and The Ladies (Part 1)

    ·47m
  86. 86

    #164 - 4/20 Forever: Becoming Saint Jones

    ·1h 15m
  87. 87

    #163 - Is God In Control? - Pt 3

    ·50m
  88. 88

    #162 - Is God in Control? - Pt 2

    ·1h 3m
  89. 89

    #161 - Is God In Control? - Pt 1

    ·51m
  90. 90

    #160-B The Slap Heard Around The World: Who Really Wins?

    ·1h 35m
  91. 91

    #160-A The Slap Heard Around The World: Who Really Wins?

    ·1h 42m
  92. 92

    #159 Narcissism: A Sign of the Last Days

    ·1h 5m
  93. 93

    George Wood On His Practical and Spiritual Therapy Approach #158

    ·56m
  94. 94

    George Wood: From Darkness to Light #157

    ·43m
  95. 95

    George Wood Recalls Dark Times #156

    ·43m
  96. 96

    Is Being a Kingdom Citizen Enough? #155

    ·47m
  97. 97

    Phanatik: Falling Away #154

    ·39m
  98. 98

    Gawvi: Falling #153

    ·36m
  99. 99

    Carefully Carrying The Anointing Pt 2 (#225)

    The host discusses how David's story would be perceived in modern media, contrasting biblical narrative with contemporary judgment.

    ·49m
  100. 100

    "Dale Mast: Discovering Your Prophetic Identity in Obedience and Purpose" #240

    The host discusses the prophetic nature of prayer and uses the story of David to illustrate identity shifts and the importance of worship before ruling.

    ·43m
  101. 101

    EP 246 Diamond Unbroken - Diamond Cut: Freedom Isn’t Free: Re-Entry, Restoration, and Rebuilding a Life

    Hidden gem

    Vonna describes leaving jail, finding work through Hope Now for Youth, and later helping start the group in Greeley, Colorado, about an hour north of Denver.

    Mar 20, 2026·33m·2 clips
  102. 102

    EP 245 Diamond Refined - Eight Years Inside: Prison, Power, Faith, and the Moment God Spoke

    Pneu Pneuma Godcast features Diamond describing childhood violence, gang involvement, incarceration, faith, and Cambodian refugee identity.

    Mar 6, 2026·32m·2 clips
  103. 103

    EP 244 Diamond Forged: From Refugee to the Streets: Trauma, Identity, and the Roots of Gang Life

    Hidden gem

    Pneu Pneuma Godcast interviews Vonna N, a Cambodian refugee born in Vietnam who arrived in Houston in 1978, later joined a Fresno gang, served eight years for second-degree murder, and now works in conflict mediation and restorative justice.

    Feb 20, 2026·33m·2 clips
  104. 104

    EP 243 Truth Under Fire: Racism, Marriage, and Walking Out the Faith: Kenneth Chong

    Hidden gem

    Norman Brown interviews Kenneth Chong about marriage, Christian faith, ministry, pride, and Chong’s transition from Navy aviation and program management into systems engineering for NATO.

    Feb 6, 2026·36m·2 clips
  105. 105

    EP 242 Running from God: Sin, Sovereignty, and the Long Road Back: Kenneth Chong

    Hidden gem

    Pneu Pneuma Godcast’s EP 242 follows Kenneth Chong’s account of leaving clubs and Navy life after reading A Divine Revelation of Hell and hearing “More Like Him” during sea trials.

    Jan 23, 2026·35m·2 clips
  106. 106

    From Isolation to Identity: Brotherhood Forged in Pressure: Kenneth Chong #241

    Jan 9, 2026·35m
  107. 107

    Raising Daughters: Conversation with Myron Pt 1 #241

    Host Norman Brown interviews Myron Cooper about his unique interpretation of the Song of Solomon and how it applies to raising daughters.

    Dec 19, 2025·42m
  108. 108

    "Dale Mast: Discovering Your Prophetic Identity in Obedience and Purpose" #240

    Nov 21, 2025·43m
  109. 109

    "Dale Mast: Faith, Destiny and Identity - Exclusive Interview" #239

    An interview with a pastor discussing his background, ministry journey, and upcoming book.

    Nov 7, 2025·43m
  110. 110

    "A Man Of Steel: Forgiveness and Transformation" #238

    Oct 24, 2025·34m
  111. 111

    "A Man Of Steel: Juveniles, Struggles and Divine Intervention" #237

    Oct 10, 2025·32m
  112. 112

    "A Man of Steel: The Law, Golf and God (Bruce Kent)" #236

    Sep 26, 2025·33m
  113. 113

    "A Man of Steel: Bruce Kent" Pt 1 (#235)

    Sep 12, 2025·33m
  114. 114

    A Journey of Financial and Spiritual Stewardship: Beatty Carmichael Part 2 (#234)

    Aug 29, 2025·46m
  115. 115

    Faith, Family, and the South: Beatty Carmichael's Journey Part 1 (#233)

    Aug 15, 2025·45m
  116. 116

    When Does Life Begin? Part 4 (EP#232)

    Aug 1, 2025·43m
  117. 117

    When Does Life Begin? Part 3 (EP231)

    Jul 18, 2025·41m
  118. 118

    When Does Life Begin? Part 2 (EP#230)

    Jul 4, 2025·40m
  119. 119

    When Does Life Begin? - Part 1 (EP#229)

    Jun 20, 2025·41m
  120. 120

    No "Walls" With Young Life: Brian Walls EP#228

    A Christian podcast host interviews a guest about his testimony of overcoming drug and alcohol abuse and finding faith in Jesus.

    Jun 6, 2025·1h
  121. 121

    Mission-eering: 'Taylor' Made By Tim (#227)

    May 23, 2025·1h 23m
  122. 122

    Adam Bower: Only Bows To One (#226)

    Jan 31, 2025·1h 34m
  123. 123

    Carefully Carrying The Anointing Pt 2 (#225)

    Sep 20, 2024·49m
  124. 124

    Carefully Carrying The Anointing Pt 1 (#224)

    Sep 13, 2024·47m
  125. 125

    "Colombia" University: Higher Learning With Lenny (#223)

    Aug 23, 2024·2h 45m
  126. 126

    Charles Washington: Sunshine On The Horizon (#222)

    Aug 9, 2024·1h 4m
  127. 127

    Revelation vs Private Interpretation (#221)

    Jul 26, 2024·1h 36m
  128. 128

    Pride Before The Fall (#220)

    Jul 12, 2024·1h 43m
  129. 129

    Captain Marvel: Feminism's Hero #219

    Nov 10, 2023·51m
  130. 130

    Did You Pay The Price? #218

    Nov 5, 2023·44m
  131. 131

    EP 217 - To Fear Or Not to Fear: A Response to Andrew Tate

    Aug 4, 2023·55m
  132. 132

    Blessed Or Lucky? | The Differences Between Them (EP 216)

    May 12, 2023·38m
  133. 133

    Raising Daughters (Part 3)

    Apr 27, 2023·30m
  134. 134

    Raising Daughters (Part 2)

    Apr 20, 2023·27m
  135. 135

    Raising Daughters (Part 1)

    Apr 13, 2023·28m
  136. 136

    Apostasy - Part 4 of 4 (EP 212)

    Apr 7, 2023·43m
  137. 137

    Apostasy - Part 3 of 4 (EP 211)

    Mar 31, 2023·43m
  138. 138

    Apostasy - Part 2 of 4 (EP 210)

    Mar 24, 2023·42m
  139. 139

    Apostasy - Part 1 of 4 (EP 209)

    Mar 17, 2023·43m
  140. 140

    Misquoted, Misappropriated and Misunderstood Scriptures Part 9

    Mar 10, 2023·18m
  141. 141

    Misquoted Misappropriated and Misunderstood Scriptures Part 8

    Mar 3, 2023·15m
  142. 142

    Misquoted, Misappropriated and Misunderstood Scriptures - Part 7

    Feb 24, 2023·16m
  143. 143

    Misquoted, Misappropriated and Misunderstood Scriptures - Part 6

    Feb 17, 2023·15m
  144. 144

    Misquoted, Misappropriated and Misunderstood Scriptures Pt 5

    Feb 10, 2023·16m
  145. 145

    Misquoted, Misappropriated and Misunderstood Scriptures (Part 4) - EP 203

    Feb 3, 2023·16m
  146. 146

    Misquoted, Misappropriated and Misunderstood Scriptures (Part 3) - EP 202

    Jan 27, 2023·16m
  147. 147

    Misquoted, Misappropriated and Misunderstood Scriptures (Part 2) - EP 201

    Jan 20, 2023·16m
  148. 148

    Misquoted, Misappropriated and Misunderstood Scriptures (Part 1) - EP 200

    Jan 13, 2023·16m
  149. 149

    From Real Estate to Kingdom Building: Apostle Doug Johnson Part 2

    Jan 6, 2023·41m
  150. 150

    From Drug Dealer To Hope Dealer: Apostle Doug Johnson Part 1 (EP 198)

    Dec 30, 2022·43m