Lemonade Learning

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Brie, Lainey and guests make lemonade from school life

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On Lemonade Learning, Brie and Lainey sit down with guests from classrooms, school leadership and children's books to trade practical ideas and personal stories. Topics run from keeping project-based learning approachable to the argument that anyone in a school building, a custodian included, is leading someone.

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About Lemonade Learning

Lemonade Learning is built around two voices, Brie and Lainey, and the people from across education they invite to talk. Every episode starts with the pair together. The name comes from a metaphor spelled out in the show's own introduction: the sweet and the sour sides of school life are both raw material, and the aim is to make something lasting from each. What a listener gets is a set of conversations that swing between classroom practice and personal story. On the practice side, Ross Cooper and Erin Murphy make project-based learning sound achievable rather than exotic. Their conversation brings up the five E's of inquiry (engage, explore, explain, elaborate and evaluate) and questions the assumption that gradual release and errorless learning are the way to go. Ross Cooper introduces himself as an elementary school assistant principal who once taught fourth grade. Leadership gets its own thread. The Joshua Stamper episode takes a broad view of who counts as a leader: anyone in a school building, a custodian included, is leading someone somewhere. It also names a gap that aspiring leaders run into: no mentor, no support on campus and no framework for what the role involves. The more personal episodes are where the warmth is plainest. Dennis Mathew, introduced as a children's author and speech pathologist who works with elementary students, prompts a discussion of voice. One point made there is that staying silent can be harder to bear than speaking up and being told it was wrong. Sean Gaillard arrives, in the show's playful framing, from the record store next door, and the conversation settles on the person in everyone's life who sees a gift they cannot see in themselves. With George Couros, the talk weighs why sharing an idea online can feel easier than sharing it with one's own staff. Brie and Lainey make no secret of their excitement about the guests they book. One is described as a longtime wish-list pick, another as someone who brightens the day every time they talk. The pair are open about the show itself, too. A behind-the-scenes bonus reflecting on season two includes an admission that the first attempt at recording went wrong and had to be restarted. In it, the pair sort the season's guests into shared threads, with habits in one group and classroom practices in another, and one of them confesses to being an inquiry nerd while suspecting the other is one too. Episodes close with a familiar request for reviews and posts under the show's hashtag, plus a mention of sticker and swag giveaways. For a first listen, the Ross Cooper and Erin Murphy episode shows the practical side most clearly, and the Dennis Mathew episode shows the reflective one.

Made for: Suits a teacher or school leader who wants practical ideas, such as a workable approach to project-based learning, alongside encouraging personal stories from people in education. It also fits someone thinking about a move into leadership who wants to hear leadership treated as something everyone in a school building already does.

What sets it apart: It pairs concrete classroom strategy with warm, personal conversation under a running lemonade metaphor. It also includes a behind-the-scenes season reflection in which Brie and Lainey sort their guests into shared threads.

In their own words

A refreshing look at learning, this podcast shares stories and high-impact strategies for educators. Join us for a glass! #LemonadeLearning

Why you'd press play

Brie and Lainey's PBL conversation may make you ask whether your school's relationships can carry another initiative.

Press play if you want

  • a way into project-based learning that doesn't begin with another acronym to memorize
  • to rethink success when someone else gets credit for an idea that helps kids
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✨Bonus Episode✨Behind the Scenes: Reflections for Season 2Dec 16, 2021

A warm season-two reflection on habits, adaptability, and teaching ideas worth carrying forward.

Lemonade Learning's season-two wrap-up turns its familiar sweet-and-sour ritual into a warm look at what lingered for Bree and Lainey after the season ended.

Episode 40 - REAL PROJECT-BASED LEARNING: REAL APPROACHABLE WITH ROSS COOPER AND ERIN MURPHYSep 23, 2021

A grounded case for making project-based learning part of everyday classroom practice.

Project-based learning gets a practical check-in through Lemonade Learning's conversation with Ross Cooper and Aaron Murphy. Cooper, an assistant principal in an elementary school in Westchester, New York, connects his path through fourth-grade teaching, elementary school…

Episode 39 - LEADING WITH EMPATHY, PASSION, AND CREATIVITY WITH JOSHUA STAMPERSep 9, 2021

An art teacher turned administrator shares practical leadership lessons for educators.

Joshua Stamper's shift from art teacher to administrator gives this Lemonade Learning episode a clear center: leadership can begin before anyone has the title.

Episode 38 - HARMONY IN THE SCHOOLHOUSE WITH SEAN GAILLARDAug 26, 2021

Sean Gaylord connects educational leadership to the people who notice potential before it is fully visible.

Lemonade Learning’s conversation with Sean Gaylord frames educational leadership as a kind of careful noticing: recognizing ability before someone can fully see it in themselves.

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    ✨Bonus Episode✨Behind the Scenes: Reflections for Season 2

    Hidden gem

    Bree and Lainey use this bonus wrap-up to reflect on season two of Lemonade Learning, including the season-closer with Erin Murphy and Ross Cooper and the first in-person recording with Mike Lawrence at DLAC in Austin.

    Dec 16, 2021·43m·2 clips
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    Episode 40 - REAL PROJECT-BASED LEARNING: REAL APPROACHABLE WITH ROSS COOPER AND ERIN MURPHY

    Hidden gem

    Ross Cooper, an assistant principal in Westchester, New York, and Aaron Murphy, a humanities supervisor and interim middle school principal outside Allentown, Pennsylvania, join Brie and Lainey to talk about project-based learning and their books.

    Sep 23, 2021·49m·3 clips
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    Episode 39 - LEADING WITH EMPATHY, PASSION, AND CREATIVITY WITH JOSHUA STAMPER

    Joshua Stamper joins Lemonade Learning as an administrator, author, and podcaster to talk about his upcoming book, launching September 21, with a cover reveal planned for September 7.

    Sep 9, 2021·52m·3 clips
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    Episode 38 - HARMONY IN THE SCHOOLHOUSE WITH SEAN GAILLARD

    Lemonade Learning brings Sean Gaylord to the Lemonade Stand to talk about August as a season of "MacGyver moments" for principals, including resignations, empty nests, and isolation.

    Aug 26, 2021·57m·4 clips
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    Episode 37 - FINDING JOY IN YOUR OWN BACKYARD WITH DENNIS MATHEW

    Hidden gem

    Dennis Mathew, a Mustang, Oklahoma speech pathologist and children's author, says Bello the Cello began during a 2016–2017 Boston job search when he could not find work for two to three months.

    Aug 12, 2021·53m·3 clips
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    Episode 36 - RECALIBRATING SUCCESS WITH GEORGE COUROS

    Hidden gem

    Brie and Lainey talk with George Kuros about recalibrating success after a decade of travel, a month at home, and the birth of Georgia in June 2020.

    Jul 22, 2021·1h 20m·5 clips
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    Episode 35 - GO BACK TO BETTER WITH MIKE LAWRENCE

    Hidden gem

    Mike Lawrence joins Lainey and Bree in Austin for Lemonade Learning’s first in-person guest conversation, recorded during DLAC with a hybrid audience and two moderators.

    Jul 8, 2021·28m·1 clip
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    Episode 34 - DIGITAL WELLNESS WITH KERRY GALLAGHER

    Hidden gem

    Brie and Lainey talk with Kerry Gallagher, an assistant principal for teaching and learning in Massachusetts and director of education for ConnectSafely, about digital wellness, school reopening, and parent guidance.

    Jun 24, 2021·46m·3 clips
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    Episode 33 - LISTEN TO LEARN AND LEAD WITH JERRY ALMENDAREZ

    Hidden gem

    Jerry Alamendarez, superintendent in Santa Ana, California, says COVID exposed how much he relies on in-person interaction and forced him to build book clubs for administrators, teachers, and students.

    Jun 10, 2021·45m·3 clips
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    Episode 32 - COLLABORATION OVER COMPETITION WITH SHANNON MOORE AND STEPHANIE ROTHSTEIN

    Hidden gem

    Bree and Lainey host Stephanie Rothstein and Shannon Moore for a two-guest conversation centered on collaboration, reflection, and communication in education.

    May 27, 2021·53m·3 clips
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    Episode 31 - A SIGN TO GROW WITH JILL SILER

    May 13, 2021·44m
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    Episode 30 - RETHINKING WHY ON PURPOSE WITH BARBARA BRAY

    Apr 22, 2021·52m
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    ✨Bonus Episode✨HINDSIGHT IS 2020 - LEMONADE LEARNING ANNIVERSARY REFLECTION

    Apr 13, 2021·21m
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    Episode 29 - HUDDLE DON'T HELICOPTER WITH LAURA TIERNEY

    Apr 8, 2021·49m
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    Episode 28 - WE ARE ALL LITERACY ADVOCATES WITH TIMMY BAUER AND SHALONDA ARCHIBALD

    Two podcast co-hosts interview fellow educators about their sweet and sour moments in teaching.

    Mar 25, 2021·45m
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    Episode 27 - LEARNING IN MOTION WITH DAVE BURGESS

    Mar 11, 2021·53m
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    Episode 26 - DESIGN A.G.E.N.T.: ENGAGING & RELEVANT WITH EVO HANNAN

    Feb 25, 2021·46m
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    Episode 25 - INTENTIONAL IMMERSION: LEADING ON PURPOSE WITH VERNON WRIGHT

    Feb 11, 2021·45m
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    Episode 24 - WE'RE ALL IN THIS TOGETHER WITH DR. JOE SANFELIPPO

    Jan 28, 2021·44m
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    Season 2 - Here we go!

    Jan 14, 2021·3m
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    Episode 23 - DON'T TAKE IT PERSONAL, MAKE IT PERSONAL WITH YARITZA VILLALBA

    An interview with educator Yaritza Vijalva about her work with overage and undercredited students and her Flipgrid show.

    Jan 14, 2021·1h 11m
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    Bonus Episode - Behind the Scenes: Reflections for Season 1

    Dec 21, 2020·47m
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    Episode 22 - WHAT IF... FINDING POSSIBILITIES WITH KATIE MARTIN

    Hosts Brie and Lainey interview Dr.

    Nov 9, 2020·48m
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    Episode 21 - BLENDED BALANCE - DESIGN & ENGAGE WITH DR. CATLIN TUCKER

    Oct 29, 2020·47m
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    Episode 20 - RECOVERING WITH RESILIENCE & RELATIONSHIPS WITH RAYNA FREEDMAN

    Hosts interview a fifth-grade teacher and cancer survivor about her teaching journey, involvement in educational technology, and doctoral studies.

    Oct 21, 2020·47m
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    Episode 19 - PURPOSE & PRODUCTIVITY - SHARING YOUR VOICE WITH RACHELLE DENÉ POTH

    Hosts Brie and Lainey interview educator and author Rochelle Danae Poth about her books and teaching insights.

    Oct 15, 2020·45m
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    Episode 18 - PERSONAL & AUTHENTIC IN THE MIDST OF ADVERSITY WITH TOM MURRAY

    Oct 5, 2020·49m
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    Episode 17 - ALL IN FOR WHATEVER WORKS WITH DR. WILL

    Sep 29, 2020·51m
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    Episode 16 - FALL BACK IN LOVE WITH TEACHING WITH STACEY ROSHAN

    Sep 22, 2020·56m
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    Episode 15 - PRIORITIZING PRINCIPLES THE PRINCIPAL'S PERSPECTIVE WITH HENRY TURNER

    Sep 14, 2020·55m
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    Episode 14 - LEADING WITH HOPE THROUGH UNCERTAINTY WITH JIMMY CASAS

    Sep 7, 2020·24m
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    Episode 13 - POSITIVE VIBES & CLASSROOM CULTURE WITH JIMMY CASAS

    Aug 31, 2020·20m
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    Episode 12 - LEARNING DESIGN - DISCOVER, DISCUSS, DEMONSTRATE

    Aug 20, 2020·30m
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    Episode 11 - FIRM GOALS, FLEXIBLE MEANS - PROFESSIONAL LEARNING WITH KATIE NOVAK

    Aug 5, 2020·17m
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    Episode 10 - FIRM GOALS, FLEXIBLE MEANS - VARIABILITY HERE + NOW WITH KATIE NOVAK

    Educators Brie and Lainey interview UDL expert Katie Novak about the sweet and sour of learning during unprecedented times.

    Jul 23, 2020·29m
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    Episode 9 - DEJA VU ALL OVER AGAIN

    Jul 17, 2020·30m
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    Episode 8 - ANSWER WITH A - AGE, ACTIVITY, ACCESS, APPROPRIATE

    Two educators launch a podcast to share stories and strategies for teaching, blending personal and professional reflections.

    Jun 30, 2020·48m
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    Episode 7 - MAKING SENSE OF SEL + CRT TO TEACH WHOLE CHILDREN

    Jun 15, 2020·29m
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    Episode 6 - AN IMPORTANT PAUSE

    Jun 4, 2020·28m
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    Episode 5 - UNPACKING THE NOW: OUR SECOND WAVE OF EMOTIONS

    May 27, 2020·29m
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    Episode 4 - HERE WITH HELLOS + HEARTS

    May 20, 2020·30m
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    Episode 3 - #BETTERTOGETHER IS BEST PRACTICE

    May 12, 2020·24m
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    Episode 2 - COULD SOMEONE ELSE DO THIS FOR ME?

    May 5, 2020·17m
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    Episode 1 - MAKING MESSES, MEMORIES + MANTRAS

    Apr 23, 2020·29m