It's All Widgets! Flutter Podcast

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One Flutter developer at a time, from backstory to code.

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It's All Widgets! Flutter Podcast pairs Hillel Korn with a single Flutter developer per episode, starting with where the guest came from and then moving into what they build. Guests range from the lead of the Flutter engineering team at Google to a solo package maintainer, a CTO and a framework contributor.

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It's All Widgets! Flutter Podcast is an interview series with a fixed shape and a wide cast. Episodes are titled by number and guest name, and Hillel Korn opens each one by welcoming a single member of the Flutter community. The first question is usually about where that guest came from. The answers are rarely alike. David Morgan grew up near Manchester and started programming in BASIC at around five. Taha Tesser moved from India to Estonia and worked at CodeMagic before his current role. Ralph Gootee comes in as co-founder and CTO of Tiger Eye, with an earlier construction-space company behind him that was acquired by Autodesk. The life stories are only the warm-up, though. What a listener really gets is each guest's hands-on knowledge, told in plain conversation with plenty of detail. Morgan explains enhanced parts, which allow nested parts and parts with their own imports, and why they remove a choice code generators have to make today between generating a library and generating a part. Gootee describes an app split into three packages, with state and navigation kept apart from styling, SQL confined to the core, and a design library where newer developers can contribute safely. He also covers testing, from unit and integration tests to smoke tests. Mike Rydstrom makes the case for the Flex Color Scheme Playground: adjust a theme until it looks right, copy the code, and even build themes that adapt to each platform. Tesser tells how he fixed Flutter's detection of Android Studio versions, and gives would-be contributors a practical tip: find a similar existing test, copy it and change it. On the bigger picture, Todd Volkert, who leads the Flutter engineering team at Google, separates Jetpack Compose, Kotlin Multiplatform and the JetBrains-led Compose Multiplatform, and notes that Compose learned from Flutter's early days. The show also covers the less glamorous side of open source. Thomas Burkhart, whom Korn credits with the podcast's name, describes the awkward middle ground of a package that thousands of developers use, many of them indirectly through injectable, but without the crowd of helpers the biggest state-management packages attract. His sharpest point is that the main problem is not hostility but indifference. Episodes often end by pointing listeners elsewhere, to a GitHub discussions page, a documentation site or a Twitter account. For a first listen, the Volkert conversation gives the widest view of where Flutter fits, and Morgan's suits anyone who writes or relies on generated code. Tesser's episode is the natural pick for someone thinking about a first contribution to the framework.

Made for: Suits a Flutter developer who wants to hear experienced practitioners talk through packages, app architecture, theming and framework contributions, and who enjoys hearing the career story before the technical detail.

What sets it apart: The guests run from the lead of the Flutter engineering team at Google to a solo package maintainer and a CTO. Each conversation moves from personal background into specifics like enhanced parts, package layering or theme tooling.

In their own words

An ongoing series featuring some of the amazing developers from the Flutter community. In each episode we discuss the developer's background, what got them into Flutter and their thoughts on the platform in general.

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56. Thomas BurkhartFeb 1, 2026

Thomas Burkert gives Flutter package maintenance a candid human frame.

Thomas Burkert's conversation with Hillel Korn turns Flutter podcast history into a grounded look at the quieter work behind popular packages.

55. David MorganAug 28, 2025

David explains how Dart language features could make Flutter code generation cleaner and more capable.

It’s a Widget’s Flutter Podcast follows David through a long-running interest in programming, from early BASIC to computer science, Linux, and open source.

54. Ralph GooteeJul 13, 2025

A CTO connects Flutter's appeal to the everyday discipline of scaling teams and platforms.

Ralph Goody's path to Flutter begins with the strain of supporting native platforms at Plane Grid, his first company, where a team of about 250 engineers maintained iOS, Android, and Windows apps before the Autodesk exit.

53. Taha TesserMay 7, 2025

A Flutter community story turns one quick bug fix into a grounded case for reachable contribution.

Flutter's community story comes through Taha Tesser's move from Android development in 2018 to CodeMagic and then Vault, with It's All Widgets sitting close to the way he frames that path.

52. Mike RydstromFeb 24, 2025

A longtime programmer makes Flutter theming feel more approachable through visual experimentation.

Mike's path into programming moves from VIC-20s and Commodore 64s through Pascal, VAX VMS, C, Visual Basic, Delphi, and a little C++. That history gives the episode a useful frame for a grounded discussion of Flutter theming, with Flex Color Scheme and its Playground at the…

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    56. Thomas Burkhart

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    Thomas Burkert says a broken Xamarin project and Flutter’s beta release led him to a first app running in 20 minutes, and he never returned to .NET mobile work.

    Feb 1, 2026·43m·2 clips
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    55. David Morgan

    Hidden gem

    David Morgan traces his path from BASIC at age five and a games-programmer goal in England to Google in Zurich in 2008.

    Aug 28, 2025·39m·3 clips
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    54. Ralph Gootee

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    Jul 13, 2025·18m·1 clip
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    53. Taha Tesser

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    It's All Widgets Flutter Podcast episode 53 centers on Taha Tesser, who says Chris pushed him from Android into Flutter and that he built a Steam card viewer in seven days.

    May 7, 2025·24m·1 clip
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    52. Mike Rydstrom

    Hidden gem

    Mike Rydstrom traces his path from VIC-20 and Commodore 64 programming to Flutter theming tools such as Flex Color Scheme, Flex Seed Scheme, and Flex Color Picker.

    Feb 24, 2025·48m·3 clips
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    51. Todd Volkert

    Todd Volkert, Flutter's Director of Engineering, describes nearly 15 years at Google and about nine years working on Flutter after building UI frameworks at a photo-management company and VMware.

    Sep 9, 2024·21m·1 clip
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    50. Eric Seidel

    Hidden gem

    Eric, an original Flutter creator, recounts work at Apple on Safari and SVG, a failed Y Combinator clothing startup, Chrome, Blink, and Flutter.

    Jul 25, 2024·23m·1 clip
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    49. Verry

    Mar 27, 2024·14m
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    48. Rody Davis

    Rody Davis, a Google developer solutions team member who began using Flutter with Flutter Beta 3, explains the design of his Signals package for Dart and Flutter.

    Jan 21, 2024·29m·1 clip
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    47. Gianfranco Papa

    Hidden gem

    Helo Korn interviews Gianfranco Papa, CTO and co-founder of Somnio Software, about his path from native Android and iOS development to Flutter specialization.

    Oct 2, 2023·48m·3 clips
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    46. Mike Hearn

    Hidden gem

    Mike Hearn, founder of Hydraulic, explains how Conveyor packages and distributes Flutter desktop apps outside stores.

    Apr 12, 2023·21m·1 clip
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    45. Ariel Ben Horesh

    Mar 21, 2023·30m
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    44. Viktor Lidholt

    Hidden gem

    Kolo Korn interviews Victor, founder of ServerPod, about a Flutter backend designed to let developers use Dart across the client and server.

    Feb 27, 2023·27m·1 clip
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    43. Dan Gardner

    Hidden gem

    Dan Gardner explains how RunP, an app that identifies bathroom breaks during movies, grew from a 2008 Flex web application into his primary income after Star Trek in 2009 drove attention.

    Jun 29, 2022·31m·2 clips
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    42. Majid Hajian

    Hidden gem

    Hillel Korn interviews Majid Hajian about his path from Commodore 64 programming to Flutter development and community leadership.

    Dec 9, 2021·48m·3 clips
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    41. Bob Nystrom

    Hidden gem

    Helo Korn interviews Bob Nystrom about his path from BASIC and an Apple IIe to EA, Google, and Dart language design.

    Jul 13, 2021·45m·2 clips
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    40. Chris Sells

    Chris Sells and Hello Korn discuss Flutter 2.0 after Flutter Engage, including null safety, stable web support, and desktop support moving from alpha to beta.

    Mar 3, 2021·45m·3 clips
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    39. Kamal (whatsupcoders)

    Feb 15, 2021·14m
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    38. Randal L. Schwartz

    Randall Schwartz describes teaching himself programming at age 10, entering industry after high school, and building a career around Perl, technical writing, and conference instruction.

    Jan 20, 2021·1h 4m·5 clips
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    37. Angelo Polotto

    Jan 12, 2021·20m
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    36. Thorsten Lorenz

    Hidden gem

    Thorsten describes moving from 10 years as a jazz musician and online-poker app development to Node.js work at Cypress.io and Flutter game development.

    Jul 19, 2020·28m·1 clip
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    35. Remi Rousselet

    Hidden gem

    Helal Korn interviews Remy Rousselet about Riverpod, Freezed, State Notifier, and Flutter Hooks as a coordinated Flutter development toolkit.

    Jul 2, 2020·45m·3 clips
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    34. Rody Davis

    Hidden gem

    Rohde Davis describes moving from audio engineering and systems administration into open-source maintenance, indie development, and Flutter work.

    Apr 12, 2020·22m·1 clip
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    33. Jiri Trecak

    Feb 2, 2020·14m
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    32. Maureen Josephine

    Jan 6, 2020·10m
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    31. Ciprian Turcu

    Dec 29, 2019·22m
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    30. Chris Sells

    Hidden gem

    Chris Sells, Google’s product manager for Flutter’s developer end-to-end experience, details Flutter 1.12, described as the project’s largest release with improved iOS 13 support, add-to-app, Android X handling, web plugins, and desktop progress.

    Dec 18, 2019·38m·2 clips
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    29. Eric Windmill

    Hidden gem

    Hillel Korn interviews Eric Windmill about writing a general Flutter book after Manning discovered his tutorial site, flutterbyexample.com.

    Dec 1, 2019·22m·1 clip
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    28. Martin Aguinis & Chris Sells

    Hidden gem

    Martin and Chris from the Flutter team explain how Flutter Create became a global contest requiring apps built with five kilobytes or less of Dart code.

    May 27, 2019·27m·1 clip
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    27. Kevin Moore

    Kevin Moore, a Dart and Flutter product manager focused on web technology, discusses the technical preview of Flutter for Web with host Hillel Korn.

    May 23, 2019·44m·3 clips
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    26. Ian Hickson & Chris Sells

    Hidden gem

    Chris Sells and Ian Hickson discuss Flutter’s developer experience, API compatibility, framework architecture, state management, CodePush, and web and desktop plans.

    May 20, 2019·52m·3 clips
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    25. Chris Sells

    Hidden gem

    Chris, Flutter’s product manager for developer experience, explains how his work spans framework APIs, plugins, command-line tools, and IDE integrations.

    Mar 13, 2019·26m·1 clip
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    24. Tino Kallinich-Friedrich

    Feb 17, 2019·14m
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    23. Emily Fortuna

    Feb 13, 2019·10m
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    22. Matt Sullivan

    An interview with Matt Sullivan, lead of Flutter developer relations at Google, discussing his background and role.

    Feb 10, 2019·25m
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    21. Pavan Podila

    Feb 6, 2019·14m
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    20. Nilay Yener

    Feb 3, 2019·10m
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    19. Muhammed Salih Güler

    Jan 31, 2019·12m
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    18. Oluwatobi Akinpelu

    Jan 28, 2019·14m
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    17. Harish Balasubramanian

    Jan 21, 2019·13m
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    16. Simon Lightfoot

    Jan 17, 2019·17m
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    15. Remi Rousselet

    Jan 14, 2019·10m
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    14. Scott Stoll

    Jan 9, 2019·14m
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    13. Norbert Kozsir

    Jan 7, 2019·14m
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    12. Martin Aguinis

    Jan 3, 2019·10m
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    11. Parth Jansari

    Dec 30, 2018·12m
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    10. Jorge Coca

    Dec 23, 2018·13m
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    9. Darshan Kawar

    Dec 19, 2018·9m
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    8. Bhavik Makwana

    Dec 16, 2018·8m
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    7. Luke Pighetti

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