House Calls

Cain Brothers, a division of KeyBanc Capital Markets

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Healthcare markets without the gloss.

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House Calls is a healthcare business show built around banker conversations, conference panels, and sharp questions about why the system resists simple fixes. Its center of gravity is market structure: reimbursement, M&A, capital allocation, regulation, and the uncomfortable gap between innovation promises and operational reality.

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House Calls is healthcare business analysis from inside the room where policy, capital, and operating reality meet. Its conversations move slowly on purpose. A topic such as alternative revenue for health systems starts as a provider strategy question, then widens into fee-for-service dependence, rural access, urban strain, price controls, and the limits of ordinary supply-and-demand thinking in healthcare. A discussion of longevity clinics becomes less about lifestyle buzz and more about whether preventive health optimization can form a credible investable category. The recurring method is practical skepticism. New technology is not dismissed, but neither is it allowed to float above reimbursement, workflow, incentives, and scale. That makes the AI episodes feel less like futurism and more like market due diligence. The same habit shows up in conversations about M&A, where optimism around capital raising is weighed against administrative uncertainty, transaction timing, and investor selectivity. House Calls also has a policy spine. MedPAC, Medicare Advantage, PBMs, employer cost pressure, benefit design, network tightening, and capital redeployment are treated as linked parts of the same system rather than separate headlines. The show is comfortable with finance jargon, but it keeps returning to practical consequences: who pays, who consolidates, which markets get served, and where costs simply get moved around. Dave Johnson gives the series a conversational frame, while Cain Brothers bankers and conference panelists supply the sector detail. The tone is serious without becoming sterile. It can be blunt about failed transformation narratives, especially the long habit of waiting for a new technology, regulation, or business model to save healthcare. The best moments come when the conversation concedes complexity and then sharpens the point anyway. House Calls is for listeners who already know healthcare is hard and want better tools for thinking about why.

Made for: Built for healthcare executives, investors, policy watchers, strategists, and operators who want system-level analysis grounded in capital markets and delivery realities. It assumes comfort with reimbursement, M&A, payers, providers, and regulation.

What sets it apart: The show pairs banker-level market fluency with a persistent concern for how healthcare actually functions for providers, employers, patients, and plans. It is less trend-chasing than pressure-testing: every big idea has to survive incentives, economics, and execution.

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Welcome to House Calls, where we talk to investment bankers from Cain Brothers, a division of KeyBank Capital Markets Inc. These bankers are working in some of the most interesting segments of healthcare, with organizations and business models that are helping to change the US healthcare industry. Host David Johnson is a recovering investment banker who discovered he’s actually a journalist and started 4sight Health, a thought leadership and advisory company. Johnson leads the conversation as he and a Cain Brothers banker examine many fascinating corners of healthcare undergoing market-driven change. The opinions expressed by the guest speaker in th...

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Healthcare's shell game meets Dave Johnson's follow-ups, if you like reform talk with balance-sheet consequences.

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  • self-insured employers treated as possible healthcare reformers, not merely benefits buyers
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When the Shell Game Stops: Will Instability Across Healthcare’s Complex Funding Dynamics Force Systemwide Transformation?Nov 18, 2025

A measured panel on how capital, consolidation, and network pressure could shape the next phase of U.S. healthcare.

House Calls draws a clean line between economic policy and the market pressures reshaping U.S. healthcare, with Wyatt Ritchie leading Mike Elizondo, David Morlock, and Dave Johnson through payer consolidation, network design, provider choice, and where capital gets redeployed.

Restoring the Roar: Private Equity’s Insights on the Recovering M&A Markets and Unique Investment Perspectives for 2025Dec 23, 2024

A Kane Brothers panel on how healthcare investors are thinking about PBMs, specialty pharmacy, and Medicare Advantage.

This Kane Brothers panel moves between PBMs, independent pharmacies, specialty pharmacy, hospice, and home infusion before widening to Medicare Advantage and member retention.

Disruptive Healthcare Purchasing by Self-Insured EmployersDec 16, 2024

A practical look at how self-insured employers could rethink primary-care purchasing.

Healthcare purchasing by self-insured employers sits at the center of this episode: how does primary care move from a nice benefit to a redesigned care strategy with financial accountability?

Promises and Perils of Healthcare Innovation: A Conversation with Dr. Zeke EmanuelApr 4, 2023

A blunt, system-level case for why healthcare innovation keeps running into the same constraints.

House Calls treats a conference-stage conversation as a compact argument for why healthcare innovation keeps colliding with economics, politics, and policy limits. Dave Johnson and Dr.

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  1. 1

    Quick Hits: Pharma Services M&A - Market Access and Potential Business Model Impact From AI Take Center Stage

    Sep 30, 2026·12m
  2. 2

    Quick Hits: Moving Forward with Medicaid

    Sep 16, 2026·15m
  3. 3

    Quick Hits: Fortune Favors the Bold - Cain Brothers’ 2026 Health System and Private Equity Collaboration Conference

    Aug 31, 2026·14m
  4. 4

    Quick Hits: AI in Healthcare Check-in

    Aug 3, 2026·19m
  5. 5

    Where is the Market for Menopause? A Genuine Health Care Mystery

    Hidden gem

    House Calls host Dave Johnson speaks with Cain Brothers bankers Stacey Gufanti and Alex Clemens about why menopause care remains an underdeveloped U.S.

    Jul 13, 2026·30m·2 clips
  6. 6

    Quick Hits: The Urgent Care Industry’s Next Phase of Expansion

    Jul 9, 2026·14m
  7. 7

    Quick Hits: Rocky Mountain High Points from Cain Brothers’ Life Sciences CEO Summit

    May 21, 2026·14m
  8. 8

    Quick Hits: Partnering Forever? Challenging the Assertion that Health Systems are Always Partnering in Permanence

    May 5, 2026·14m
  9. 9

    Quick Hits: Health Systems and the Pursuit of Alternative Revenue Streams

    This episode discusses the financial pressures on health systems, with a focus on why many hospitals are losing money and strategies for developing alternative revenue streams beyond traditional fee-for-service models.

    Apr 8, 2026·18m
  10. 10

    Quick Hits: Longevity Clinics - Wellness Trend or Investable Asset Class?

    This episode explores whether longevity clinics represent a wellness trend or an investable asset class through an interview with an investment banking expert.

    Mar 25, 2026·13m
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    Quick Hits: Embracing vs. Conquering - Stop Waiting for the New New Thing to Save Healthcare

    Dave Johnson interviews Todd Rosinski about why waiting for new innovations to save healthcare is futile, discussing past failures and the need to stop relying on disruptive technologies or models.

    Mar 5, 2026·15m
  12. 12

    Quick Hits: A Year in Review and the Year Ahead

    Dave Johnson interviews Wyatt Ritchie, head of Kane Brothers, about the investment banking landscape in 2025 and predictions for 2026, focusing on capital raising, strategic transactions, and M&A activity amid market uncertainty.

    Feb 12, 2026·20m
  13. 13

    The Future of AI in Healthcare: Insights from Leading Investors

    This episode features a panel discussion from a healthcare conference where investors speculate on how AI will transform healthcare over the next five years.

    Jan 29, 2026·51m
  14. 14

    Why Prevention and Transparency Won't Fix U.S. Healthcare: Insights from MedPAC's Chairman Michael Chernew

    This episode features a fireside chat with Michael Chernew, chair of MedPAC, discussing why prevention and transparency alone won't fix U.S.

    Dec 10, 2025·51m
  15. 15

    When the Shell Game Stops: Will Instability Across Healthcare’s Complex Funding Dynamics Force Systemwide Transformation?

    Hidden gem

    Can payer consolidation actually lower costs?

    Nov 18, 2025·39m·2 clips
  16. 16

    Quick Hits: The Big Beautiful Bill and Its Impact on Skilled Nursing Facilities (SNFs)

    Sep 30, 2025·10m
  17. 17

    Quick Hits: Distribution Titans Enter Specialty Physician Practice Management Arena

    Aug 5, 2025·12m
  18. 18

    The Kids Aren’t Alright: Addressing the Behavioral Health Crisis Among Adolescents and Young Adults

    Jun 26, 2025·17m
  19. 19

    Quick Hits: The Future is Now - The Increasing Prevalence of Augmented, Virtual, and Mixed Reality in Orthopedic Surgery

    May 29, 2025·12m
  20. 20

    Quick Hits: Now It’s Medicaid’s Turn

    May 22, 2025·11m
  21. 21

    Quick Hits: History Repeats Itself - No Margin, No Mission, Therefore Reality Drives Healthcare M&A

    May 15, 2025·12m
  22. 22

    Quick Hits: The Intersection Of Specialty Cancer Care And Private Equity Investment

    Apr 2, 2025·13m
  23. 23

    Quick Hits: The Duals Opportunity

    Feb 26, 2025·13m
  24. 24

    Quick Hits: The Rate of Hospital Consolidation in the US - Too Little, Too Slow.

    Feb 19, 2025·12m
  25. 25

    Restoring the Roar: Private Equity’s Insights on the Recovering M&A Markets and Unique Investment Perspectives for 2025

    Hidden gem

    Matt Margulies moderates a panel replay from Kane Brothers' 11th annual private company healthcare conference.

    Dec 23, 2024·52m·2 clips
  26. 26

    Disruptive Healthcare Purchasing by Self-Insured Employers

    Hidden gem

    House Calls host Dave Johnson moderates a panel with Don Trigg of Apri and Glenn Tolman of Transparent on self-insured employers changing healthcare purchasing.

    Dec 16, 2024·58m·4 clips
  27. 27

    Quick Hits: Back to the Future - Self-Directed Care in the U.S.

    Nov 7, 2024·12m
  28. 28

    What’s Happening to Medicare Advantage? A Panel Discussion

    Oct 22, 2024·44m
  29. 29

    Health Systems, Private Equity, and the Government: It’s Complicated

    Sep 5, 2024·25m
  30. 30

    Quick Hits: Opportunities in School-Based Healthcare Services in the United States

    Aug 29, 2024·7m
  31. 31

    Quick Hits: Current Challenges & Trends Impacting the Medical Manufacturing Market

    Aug 22, 2024·8m
  32. 32

    Quick Hits: Medicare Redo or Delay?

    Aug 15, 2024·13m
  33. 33

    Quick Hits: Rocky Mountain Highlights - Cain Brothers’ Inaugural MedTech & Life Sciences Summit

    Jun 6, 2024·11m
  34. 34

    Quick Hits: Leveraging AI to Drive Better Conversations with Patients

    May 13, 2024·12m
  35. 35

    Quick Hits: The Intersection of Ambulatory Care, Health Systems, and Private Equity

    May 9, 2024·13m
  36. 36

    Quick Hits: A Ground-Breaking Transaction

    Apr 5, 2024·12m
  37. 37

    Quick Hits: The Case for Additional Partnership Between Skilled Nursing and Acute Care Providers

    Mar 19, 2024·10m
  38. 38

    Quick Hits: New Initiatives from CMS to Improve Access to Behavioral Health Services

    Mar 11, 2024·8m
  39. 39

    MedTech Follows Pharma: The Rapid Growth of Outsourcing in Medical Device Manufacturing

    Nov 16, 2023·33m
  40. 40

    Kickstarting Innovation Part 2: Why Health Systems and PE Need Each Other

    Sep 5, 2023·34m
  41. 41

    Kickstarting Innovation Part 1: Bringing Health Systems and Private Equity Together for Good

    Aug 1, 2023·36m
  42. 42

    Promises and Perils of Healthcare Innovation: A Conversation with Dr. Zeke Emanuel

    Hidden gem

    Dave Johnson hosts a fireside chat with Dr.

    Apr 4, 2023·43m·2 clips
  43. 43

    The Bold Predictions Podcast: U.S. Healthcare in 2023 and Beyond

    Mar 13, 2023·33m
  44. 44

    Reimagining Healthcare Staffing: Partnership-focused, Data-informed, Nurse-centric

    Feb 9, 2023·21m
  45. 45

    Overlooked and Underfunded: Dental Care’s Massive Potential to Serve Disadvantaged Populations

    Jan 5, 2023·20m
  46. 46

    Home Medical Equipment Providers and the Promise of Value-Based Care

    Nov 30, 2022·30m
  47. 47

    Home is Where the Healing Happens: Uniting Medicare Advantage Payers and Providers to Create Value

    Oct 6, 2022·30m
  48. 48

    Learning to Thrive: Integrating Mental Health Services within K-12 Education

    This episode discusses the growing mental health crisis among children and teenagers in the U.S.

    Aug 25, 2022·25m
  49. 49

    Fixing America’s Aching Backs, Bones and Joints: Orthopedic Care in the Digital Health Era by Ricky Ng and Dave Johnson

    Jun 9, 2022·24m
  50. 50

    Fishing for Returns in Turbulent Waters: Healthcare Investors Adapt to New Competitors and Greater Risk

    Apr 14, 2022·33m
  51. 51

    Looking Back, Looking Forward: A Golden Age of Healthcare Innovation?

    Mar 3, 2022·25m
  52. 52

    The Many Roads to Value Part IV: Building The Last Mile to the Patient

    Jan 20, 2022·21m
  53. 53

    All Roads Lead to Value Part III: Making Inroads in Rural America

    Dec 1, 2021·22m
  54. 54

    Moving Healthcare Home and Beyond: A Conversation with Paul Kusserow, Chairman and CEO of Amedisys

    This episode features an interview with Paul Kusserow, CEO of Amedisys, discussing leadership, employee burnout, and optimism in healthcare during the pandemic.

    Nov 18, 2021·47m
  55. 55

    All Roads Lead to Value Part II: Positioning Physicians to Manage Care Risk

    Oct 5, 2021·20m
  56. 56

    The Many Roads to Value Part I: What is a Health System Supposed to Be?

    This episode introduces a four-part series exploring what health systems are supposed to be, using the metaphor of Roman roads leading to value in healthcare.

    Aug 17, 2021·27m
  57. 57

    Medicaid, Motherhood and America’s Future: Giving Birth to Better Maternity Outcomes

    Jul 13, 2021·30m
  58. 58

    Stigma vs. Science: Overcoming Opioid Addiction with Evidence-based Treatments and Services

    May 5, 2021·15m
  59. 59

    Health Systems Embrace Platforming and Innovative Financing Strategies

    Mar 25, 2021·27m
  60. 60

    The Many Flavors of Healthcare’s Not-For-Profit/For-Profit Partnerships

    Feb 19, 2021·19m
  61. 61

    The Worst and Best of Times: Investor Perspectives from Cain Brothers’ Healthcare 2020 Virtual Conference

    Dec 18, 2020·27m
  62. 62

    The Future of Clinical Trials: Decentralized, Diversified, Efficient and Fast

    Oct 28, 2020·24m
  63. 63

    Podcast: The Future of Hospitals in Post-COVID America (Part 2) – The Policy Response

    Sep 16, 2020·34m
  64. 64

    Podcast: The Future of Hospitals in Post-COVID America (Part 1) – The Market Response

    Jul 28, 2020·28m
  65. 65

    Home Health Is Where the Growth Is: The Post-COVID Rise of Platform Solutions

    Jun 30, 2020·30m
  66. 66

    COVID-19: Healthcare Private Equity Executives on Life with COVID

    Jun 12, 2020·41m
  67. 67

    COVID-19: CareMont Medical CEO & CFO talk with Rob Fraiman, Cain Brothers

    Jun 10, 2020·19m
  68. 68

    COVID-19: Terry Akin, CEO of Cone Health, talks with Carsten Beith, Cain Brothers

    Jun 8, 2020·25m
  69. 69

    COVID-19: Steve Rodgers, AccentCare, speaks with Matthew Margulies, Cain Brothers

    Jun 5, 2020·36m
  70. 70

    COVID-19: Healthcare PE Executives on Impact & Influence on Investing

    Jun 3, 2020·40m
  71. 71

    COVID-19: James Hereford, Fairview Health Services, speaks with Dave Morlock, Cain Brothers

    Jun 1, 2020·19m
  72. 72

    COVID-19: Paul Markovich, Blue Shield of CA speaks with Court Houseworth, Cain Brothers

    May 29, 2020·21m
  73. 73

    COVID-19: Dr. Steve Udvarhelyi, BCBS of Louisiana speaks with Mike Elizondo, Cain Brothers

    May 27, 2020·27m
  74. 74

    Public Health & Healthcare in Post-COVID America. Court Houseworth, Cain Brothers

    May 21, 2020·34m
  75. 75

    Podcast: Health Tech to the Rescue: Combatting COVID-19 with Virtual Care and Predictive Analytics

    Apr 16, 2020·27m
  76. 76

    A Fireside Chat w/Beth Mooney, Chairman/CEO of KeyCorp, and Tom Mihaljevic, MD, President & CEO of Cleveland Clinic

    Mar 13, 2020·52m
  77. 77

    Podcast: A Fireside Chat w/Beth Mooney, Chairman/CEO of KeyCorp, and Tom Mihaljevic, MD, President & CEO of Cleveland Clinic

    Mar 3, 2020·52m
  78. 78

    Podcast: 2020 Observations and Insights, Healthcare’s Recent Trends and Future Direction

    Feb 18, 2020·35m
  79. 79

    Podcast: Widen the Funnel and Close the Gaps: The Summit-CityMD Combo Sees “Big Apple” Opportunity through Integrated Care Delivery

    Feb 13, 2020·44m
  80. 80

    Podcast: Widen the Funnel and Close the Gaps: The Summit-CityMD Combo Sees “Big Apple” Opportunity through Integrated Care Delivery

    Jan 27, 2020·44m
  81. 81

    Podcast: Commercializing Breakthrough Drugs in a Value-Based Market

    Dec 12, 2019·33m
  82. 82

    Podcast: Mission-Critical Repurposing: Converting Aging Senior Living Properties to Affordable Housing

    Nov 25, 2019·31m
  83. 83

    Podcast: Win-Win Partnerships: Strategics and Sponsors Increasingly Team Up

    Oct 18, 2019·31m
  84. 84

    Podcast: Getting Urgent about Urgent Care: Health Systems Go Big on Retail

    Oct 15, 2019·27m