DIAL

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Inequality research explained by the people who did it

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DIAL is an interview podcast in which the researchers behind DIAL projects explain what their evidence shows about inequality at each stage of life. Each guest takes apart the subject they studied, from single mothers' incomes and children born pre-term to disappearing apprenticeships and the tangle of genes and parenting.

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DIAL is a podcast about inequality over the life course, and its structure is simple: one researcher, one project, one conversation about what the evidence shows. The guests are principal investigators and coordinators from DIAL research projects, based at universities including Bristol, Munich, Turku, Bielefeld, UCL and Erasmus University Rotterdam. Episodes are organised into series, and each series has its own brief. The second series is built around findings from the Equal Lives project. Series four looks back across the programme at how and when inequality manifests and what its longer-term consequences might be. Chris Garrington of Research Podcasts produces and presents, and begins interviews by asking what a project investigated and why. The talk then turns to results, which are specific. Susan Harkness, principal investigator of Equal Lives, traces how economic disadvantage accumulates for single mothers, starting from a long-standing assumption that they are poorer because no male breadwinner lives with them. Her data shows married mothers' earnings falling further after a birth, but fathers working longer hours cushion the household, while in single-mother families the same event hits overall income far harder. Andreas Peichel of the University of Munich asks how much of today's inequality in earnings can be traced back to childhood circumstances. He describes new ways to measure its 'unfair' share, including machine learning and large Swedish datasets spanning several generations. Sakari Lemola discusses PremLife, a project on what protects children born pre-term and builds their resilience. That work compares Germany, where pupils are sorted into tracks after the first few school years, with the UK and Finland, where they are not. It also follows people born pre-term into adulthood to look at their socio-emotional outcomes. Hans van Kipperslois leads a project on nature versus nurture, then explains why the question is so hard to test: genetic endowments and parental investments are tangled together, and even birth weight is shaped by a mother's smoking. Richard Blundell turns to adolescence and working life, describing an almost complete halt to apprenticeships for young people outside university; much of his work with colleagues has also fed into the Deaton Review on Inequality. In an episode presented as the last of series four, DIAL's scientific coordinator Elina Kilpijakonen reflects as the programme draws to a close. She notes how housework habits shifted under lockdown and then slipped back once it ended. She also describes conversations with policymakers and non-governmental organisations about labour-market gaps between mothers and fathers, and about childhood disadvantage. Guests get room to explain their methods as well as their findings, and a technical idea is sometimes restated in simpler words, as when gene-environment interplay becomes nature versus nurture. Read together, the episode titles cover the life course: pre-term children, childhood, adolescence, working life, motherhood and later-life outcomes. What DIAL offers is research findings explained by the people who produced them.

Made for: Suits a listener who wants social science findings on poverty, childhood, education and work explained directly by the researchers, with enough method to judge how the evidence was built.

What sets it apart: Each episode is anchored to one DIAL research project and the investigator who led it, so findings arrive first-hand with their methods and implications attached.

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Tuning into evidence on inequality over the lifecourse

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Tackling inequalities in adolescence and working lifeApr 27, 2022

A grounded look at how education, training and childcare shape inequality across working life.

Inequality comes through as something that builds over time, not just a static divide. The discussion tracks how education choices feed into working life, why training can offer routes beyond university, and how gender differences compound across careers.

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Episodes

  1. 1

    How does economic disadvantage accumulate for single mothers?

    Jul 5, 2022·12m
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    A level playing field for children: why it matters in tackling inequality over the lifecourse

    Hidden gem

    Andreas Peichel argues that early childhood education, not only later redistribution, is central to leveling opportunity.

    May 2, 2022·18m·1 clip
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    The dynamics of inequality: what have we learned?

    DIAL scientific coordinator Elina Kilpi-Yakkonen reviews findings from 13 international projects on inequality across education, work, health, and family life.

    May 2, 2022·16m·1 clip
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    Pre-term children: how do they get an equal chance to thrive?

    Apr 29, 2022·13m
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    Tackling inequalities in adolescence and working life

    Hidden gem

    ["Dial\u2019s episode on tackling inequalities in adolescence and working life centers on Richard Blundell\u2019s project on human capital and inequality, from education choices into labor-market outcomes.", "Christine interviews Blundell, who is introduced as the David Ricardo Professor of Political Economy at UCL and director of the ESRC Centre for Microeconomic Analysis of Public Policy at the Institute for Fiscal Studies.", "Blundell says the team compares Norway, the UK, and France to study gender pay gaps, childcare, work experience, and accredited training for people returning to work.", "He links COVID to up to half a year of schooling loss, digital-access gaps, and a 70% or greater drop in apprenticeships for 18- to 20-year-olds."]

    Apr 27, 2022·25m·1 clip
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    Nature, nurture and our later life outcomes: new insights on inequality over the lifecourse

    Apr 5, 2022·12m
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    The impact of inequality on the lives of children

    Hidden gem

    This episode discusses research on how social inequality affects children's oral language development and its long-term consequences.

    Apr 1, 2022·22m·1 clip
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    Ability grouping: does it affect UK primary school pupils' enjoyment of Maths and English?

    Mar 16, 2022·12m
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    Discrimination harassment and violence: the experiences of LGBT communities

    Feb 25, 2022·14m
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    Golfing with Trump: who does it and what does it mean for rising populism?

    Feb 15, 2022·14m
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    Work and family lives: Who has a chance of having it all?

    Hidden gem

    Dial’s Equal Lives episode follows Black and white men and women from ages 20 to 40 rather than comparing income at a single age 30 snapshot.

    Jan 24, 2022·18m·1 clip
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    Sharing housework in the pandemic: what changed and for how long?

    Dec 14, 2021·12m
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    Extending working life: what needs to change to make policies work?

    Hidden gem

    An interview with a researcher discussing gendered impacts of policies extending working life.

    Nov 17, 2021·26m·1 clip
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    Educational opportunities for all: are countries the same or different?

    Nov 10, 2021·13m
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    Why and how do rich parents have rich children?

    Nov 2, 2021·9m
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    Documenting childhood inequalities and the case for early intervention

    This episode discusses research on inequalities in child socio-emotional development across generations and the long-term health benefits of the UK's Sure Start programme.

    Oct 26, 2021·24m
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    Education pathways: how do they affect young people's job prospects?

    Oct 25, 2021·9m
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    Modelling the LGBTQ workplace for new insights and understanding

    May 18, 2021·17m
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    Antenatal steroids: are there links with mental and behaviour problems later on?

    May 6, 2021·10m
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    Mums who smoke and their baby's birthweight

    Dec 8, 2020·9m
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    The work and family lives of women in Israel

    Oct 21, 2020·16m
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    Working with migrants: does it increase or decrease support for anti-immigration political parties?

    Oct 13, 2020·13m
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    From outcast to citizen: the time travels of LGBTQI+ elders in Southern Europe

    Sep 30, 2020·18m
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    Born preterm or low weight? What could that mean for your relationships and wellbeing later on?

    Apr 16, 2020·11m
  25. 25

    First 12 months with mum: will you be happier later on?

    Apr 7, 2020·14m
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    Unemployed parent? How does that affect a teen's school choices and achievements?

    Mar 20, 2020·9m
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    Aiming high and missing the mark?

    Mar 11, 2020·10m
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    The UK LGBT Action Plan: a look behind the celebratory rhetoric

    Feb 20, 2020·17m
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    Do Nordic countries live up to their promise of creating fairer and more equal societies?

    Dec 5, 2019·13m
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    Job loss and divorce: worse for disadvantaged couples?

    Sep 25, 2019·8m
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    Birth rank: does it make a difference ?

    Sep 10, 2019·10m
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    Siblings and their incomes: the same or different over the life course?

    Sep 9, 2019·8m
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    Nirosha Varghese: Sleep tight! Does a baby's sleep matter for how they get on at school later on?

    Aug 22, 2019·8m
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    Áine Ní Léime: The road to retirement - is it an equal one for people in sedentary and physically demanding jobs?

    Jul 30, 2019·12m
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    Rachel Robinson: Optimist or pessimist? Pre-term personalities and later life chances

    Jul 15, 2019·10m
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    Who we are and what we drink: genes, pubs and alcohol policy

    Jul 3, 2019·14m
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    Karl Ulrich Mayer: A Lifecourse Observatory - no fantasy!

    May 23, 2019·20m
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    Jo Blanden: How well are youngsters getting on compared with mum and dad?

    Apr 9, 2019·15m
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    Florencia Torche: chronic stress in-utero - can it damage baby's health and life chances?

    An interview with Professor Florencia Torche about how prenatal stress affects children's health and perpetuates poverty across generations.

    Apr 1, 2019·21m
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    Bram Hogendoorn: What does divorce have to do with education poverty gap?

    Feb 20, 2019·8m
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    Andreas Peichl: income inequality: should we measure it differently?

    Jan 31, 2019·14m