
Southern California commercial real estate leaders, in their own words.
The gist
CREative Connections brings together NAIOP SoCal's Tim Jemal and Connect Media's Daniel Ceniceros and Sarah Quinn to interview people who make commercial real estate deals and set strategy. Guests range from AFIRE's Gunnar Branson, on foreign capital and data centers, to the Colliers team named NAIOP SoCal's 2024 Broker of the Year.
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About CREative Connections
CREative Connections is a commercial real estate interview podcast made by NAIOP SoCal and Connect Media. The hosts named on the show are Tim Jemal, CEO of NAIOP SoCal, and Daniel Ceniceros and Sarah Quinn of Connect Media. They do not always appear together. In episodes 1 and 2 the Connect Media hosts run the interviews. In episodes 25, 48, 49 and 50 Jemal conducts them alone and describes the series as talking to people who shape commercial real estate in Southern California. That region is the anchor, but the conversations also reach into national and global capital. Reading the market is one strand. Christopher Thornberg, founder of Beacon Economics, argues that industrial property is in better shape than its vacancy numbers suggest. He separates raw occupancy, which he says keeps climbing in places like the Inland Empire, from the overbuilding that followed cheap post-pandemic borrowing. Gunnar Branson, CEO of AFIRE, answers questions about foreign investors and data centers, notes Canadian interest in American facilities, and closes on why staying connected to colleagues abroad matters beyond business. Strategy is another strand. Eliza Bailey, co-founder, CEO and CIO of Belay Investment Group, describes pairing a top-down relative value analysis of property types and markets with a bottom-up search for the right real estate and the right operator. Asked how an 18-member team covers so much ground, she points to partnerships with local operators and developers who act as both acquisition and execution teams and underwrite deals alongside Belay. Victor Coleman, CEO and chairman of Hudson Pacific Properties, gives a three-part rationale: an entertainment operating business combined with real estate, Hollywood's surplus land, and the arrival of technology. The third strand is the association's own honors. Episode 48 talks with the Colliers team named NAIOP SoCal's 2024 Broker of the Year, and the discussion turns to hiring people first and fitting roles second, with attitude, personality and culture weighed alongside aptitude. Word of mouth, they say, has beaten agencies for finding the right hires. Episode 25 features Blake Bokosky on the sales side and Joe Bevan on leasing, the JLL team behind Intersect, a People's Choice Deal of the Year winner. Coleman's conversation also ends with recognition, as Jemal names him the fourth hall of fame inductee. Jemal is quick with praise, and the award episodes are openly celebratory. For market analysis, start with the Thornberg episode. For a look at how an award-winning brokerage team is put together, the Broker of the Year conversation is the better pick.
Made for: Suits a listener who works in or follows commercial real estate, especially in Southern California, and wants investors, executives and brokers to explain how they read markets, choose partners and build teams.
What sets it apart: Because NAIOP SoCal is one of the show's makers, its guest list includes the association's own honorees, from Broker of the Year and Deal of the Year recipients to a hall of fame inductee, alongside investors and a Beacon Economics founder talking about the market.
In their own words
Co-Hosts Tim Jemal (CEO NAIOP SoCal), Daniel Ceniceros (CEO and Founder of Connect Media and Sarah Quinn (Executive Vice President & Cofounder, Connect Media) embark on a joint venture to connect with professionals shaping the commercial real estate industry in a new podcast venture "CREative Connections".
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Tim Jamal gets the Netflix campus story; stay for the real estate logic behind the marquee tenant.
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- to hear why a Hollywood studio portfolio made sense before Netflix signed on
- to sort industrial vacancy headlines from rising occupancy in the Inland Empire
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Episodes
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CREative Connections // Ep 2 - Dr. Christopher Thornberg
Hidden gemHosts interview Chris Thornburg of Beacon Economics about commercial real estate trends and the California economy.
Apr 17, 2026·24m·1 clip - 2
CREative Connections // Ep 1 - Gunnar Branson
Gunnar Branson, CEO of AFIRE, says foreign investors remain concerned about tariffs and geopolitical events while continuing to expand U.S.
Apr 3, 2026·28m·1 clip - 3
Ep.50 Eliza Bailey Belay Investment Group
Hidden gemTim Jamal interviews Eliza Bailey, co-founder, CEO, and CIO of Belay Investment Group, about her path from psychology and an MBA to commercial real estate investing.
Dec 15, 2025·38m·2 clips - 4
Ep. 49 Victor Coleman
Hidden gemTim Jamal interviews Victor Coleman, CEO and chairman of Hudson Pacific Properties, after Coleman’s induction as NAOP SoCal’s fourth Hall of Fame member.
Aug 29, 2025·31m·2 clips - 5
Ep. 48 Winner: NAIOP SoCal 2024 Broker of the Year
CREative Connections host Tim Jamal interviews Michael Kendall and Kenny Patricia of Colliers' West Industrial Capital Markets team after their 2024 NAOP SoCal Broker of the Year recognition.
Aug 19, 2025·30m·2 clips - 6
Ep. 47 Janet Neman
Jul 22, 2025·23m - 7
ep.46 Megan Creecy-Herman
May 16, 2025·48m - 8
CREative Talk ep.45 Courtney Trujillo
Mar 17, 2025·44m - 9
Ep. 44 Drew Sanden
Mar 17, 2025·41m - 10
ep.43 Larry Armstrong
Dec 19, 2024·44m - 11
CREative Podcast Ep. 42 Jeff Farano and Elijah Goldtrap
Nov 26, 2024·31m - 12
Ep. 41 Ken Khachigian
Oct 29, 2024·1h 4m - 13
Ep. 40 Howard Building Corporation NAIOP SoCal’s 2023 DEIA Award Winner
Oct 2, 2024·29m - 14
CREative Talk Aaron Hill ep.39
Aug 21, 2024·37m - 15
Greg Brown, JLL - NAIOP SoCal’s 2023 Deal of the Year ep. 38
Jul 15, 2024·19m - 16
NAIOP SoCal's CREative Talk ep. 37 Developer of the year 2023
Jun 26, 2024·24m - 17
ep. 36 Marybeth Heydt NAIOP Socal's 2024 Woman of the Year
Jun 3, 2024·54m - 18
ep. 35 Dre Evans
Jun 3, 2024·27m - 19
ep.34 Daniel Ceniceros
Mar 19, 2024·48m - 20
Ep. 33 Assemblymember Blanca Pacheco
Jan 17, 2024·41m - 21
Ep. 32 Jeremy Krout
Jan 10, 2024·51m - 22
Ep. 31 Tom Bak
Jan 3, 2024·1h 1m - 23
Ep. 30 Howard Schwimmer
Dec 20, 2023·49m - 24
Ep. 29 - Justin Smith
Nov 22, 2023·39m - 25
Ep. 28 Jonathan Bagnall
Nov 2, 2023·41m - 26
Ep. 27 - Ben Reinberg
Sep 11, 2023·50m - 27
EP. 26 Jason Rich
Jul 20, 2023·52m - 28
Ep 25 2023 People's Choice: Deal of the Year Awardee with Blake Bokosky and Joe Bevan
Host Tim Jemal interviews the JLL team behind the award-winning Intersect deal, discussing their win and the commercial real estate industry.
Jun 20, 2023·33m - 29
EP 24 - Asm. Rick Zbur
Jun 14, 2023·1h 2m - 30
EP 23 - John Drachman
Apr 19, 2023·55m - 31
EP 22 - Jay Tanjuan
Mar 20, 2023·1h 3m - 32
EP 21 - Fran Inman
Feb 16, 2023·1h - 33
EP 20 - Bud Pharris
Dec 20, 2022·58m - 34
EP 19 - Kimberly Brown
Nov 23, 2022·42m - 35
EP 18 - Malcolm Johnson
Oct 26, 2022·1h 7m - 36
EP 17 - **2022 People's Choice Awardee: Developer of the Year** with Nancy Shultz
Host Tim Jemal interviews Nancy Schultz, Regional President of Duke Realty, about winning Developer of the Year and discusses commercial real estate trends.
Aug 3, 2022·28m - 37
EP 16 - **2022 People's Choice: Deal of the Year Awardee** with Jay Nugent and George Thomson
The hosts interview winners of NAIOP SoCal's Deal of the Year award, discussing their project and the recognition.
Jul 26, 2022·29m - 38
EP 15 - Sandy Sigal
Jun 16, 2022·54m - 39
EP 14 - Jana Turner
May 23, 2022·45m - 40
EP. 13 - Jaime Lee
Apr 11, 2022·59m - 41
EP - 12 Lew Horne
Mar 11, 2022·1h 4m - 42
EP 11 - Brandy Birtcher
Jan 6, 2022·55m - 43
EP 10 - Gene Seroka
Interview with the Executive Director of the Port of Los Angeles about his career and the port's role in the economy.
Dec 20, 2021·40m - 44
EP. 9 - John Keisler
Nov 22, 2021·43m - 45
EP. 8 - Robert Hertzberg
Oct 28, 2021·45m - 46
Ep. 7 - YPG Founders
This episode introduces the YPG program for young professionals in commercial real estate, featuring interviews with its founders.
Sep 20, 2021·47m - 47
Ep. 6 - Kevin Shannon, Newmark
Jul 28, 2021·43m - 48
Ep. 5 - Jeffrey Prang, Los Angeles County Assessor
Jul 8, 2021·49m - 49
Ep.4 - Bridget Herdman, Herdman Architecture & Design
May 20, 2021·41m - 50
Ep. 3 - Josh Childress, Landspire Group
Apr 22, 2021·44m