Alpha Exchange

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Institutional market risk, patiently examined.

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Alpha Exchange studies how serious investors think when markets stop behaving cleanly. Its conversations move through monetary policy, credit spreads, volatility, retirement portfolios, AI infrastructure, and the price of liquidity with a patient institutional lens.

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About Alpha Exchange

Alpha Exchange is a markets podcast for people who think in risk premia, balance sheets, and second-order effects. It is not built around hot takes. The show’s center of gravity is the patient examination of how market participants make decisions when the macro backdrop becomes hard to simplify. Episodes regularly connect economic, monetary, financial, and geopolitical risks, treating them as overlapping forces rather than separate categories. That structure gives the conversations a consistent spine. One week the focus may be the Fed’s tradeoff between inflation and employment; another may move into credit spreads, private credit liquidity, options volatility, or the long-dated financing behind AI infrastructure. The tone is serious and technical, but not performative. Guests are encouraged to explain their process, where models fail, and why discipline matters when markets reward crowded behavior. Credit receives especially close attention. Conversations with investors from Oaktree Capital Management, Andromeda Capital Management, Russell Investments, and Richard Bernstein Advisors show the program’s bias toward portfolio construction, downside control, manager selection, and the real price of liquidity. Volatility is another recurring thread, from commodity options and VIX relationships to trader mental math around straddles and implied probabilities. Monetary policy appears less as a partisan subject than as one input among fiscal policy, regulation, demographics, leverage, productivity, and market structure. The show is at its best when it slows down a familiar market phrase and asks what is actually being priced. It is also comfortable with humility. Predictions are less important than understanding which assumptions are fragile. The result is a thoughtful, institutionally minded guide to modern markets for listeners who already know the vocabulary and want sharper ways to organize uncertainty.

Made for: Alpha Exchange is for investors, allocators, advisors, traders, and financially fluent listeners who want rigorous conversations about risk, return, and portfolio construction. It suits people who prefer frameworks and market structure over quick predictions.

What sets it apart: The show stands out by using established industry professionals to examine how different forms of risk interact across cycles. Its edge is the repeated focus on whether investors are actually being compensated for liquidity, credit, duration, volatility, and leverage.

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The Alpha Exchange is a podcast series launched by Dean Curnutt to explore topics in financial markets, risk management and capital allocation in the alternatives industry. Our in depth discussions with highly established industry professionals seek to uncover the nuanced and complex interactions between economic, monetary, financial, regulatory and geopolitical sources of risk. We aim to learn from the perspective our guests can bring with respect to the history of financial and business cycles, promoting a better understanding among listeners as to how prior periods provide important context to present day dynamics. The “price of risk” is an important topic. Here we engage experts in their…

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Based on 6 episodes we listened to · September 2026

Alpha Exchange turns institutional investment debates into clear examinations of pricing, discipline and the risks hidden inside portfolios.

Dean Kernut keeps Alpha Exchange focused on how investment decisions behave under pressure. His interviews connect portfolio construction to the forces that can disturb it, moving through corporate credit, interest rates, equity concentration, liquidity and retirement planning…

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Credit spreads, student loans: Dean Curnutt keeps you asking what risk is actually costing you.

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  • to hear why a higher bond yield might leave you underpaid for the risk of selling
  • to think about retirement portfolios as more than a choice of funds
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Episodes

  1. 1

    Sayings on Vol and Risk...A Fresh 10

    ·21m
  2. 2

    Alpha Exchange 250th Episode: A Retrospective

    ·1h 3m
  3. 3

    The Shock Heard ‘Round the World: US Government Bonds

    ·52m
  4. 4

    Kris Abdelmessih, Co-Founder, Moontower.ai

    ·53m
  5. 5

    Eric Balchunas, Senior ETF Analyst, Bloomberg Intelligence

    ·46m
  6. 6

    Anniversary Episode: Reflections on the Podcast

    ·48m
  7. 7

    Digital Gold and Actual Gold

    ·19m
  8. 8

    IBIT…the Hottest Option on the Planet

    ·21m
  9. 9

    Ali Samadi, Managing Director, Equity Derivatives, Nomura Securities

    ·52m
  10. 10

    Zach Buchwald, Chairman and CEO, Russell Investments

    ·45m
  11. 11

    Alberto Gallo, Founder and Chief Investment Officer, Andromeda Capital Management

    ·52m
  12. 12

    Michael Contopoulos, Deputy Chief Investment Officer, Richard Bernstein Advisors

    ·49m
  13. 13

    Louis Vincent Gave, Founding Partner & Chief Executive Officer, Gavekal Research

    ·52m
  14. 14

    Libby Cantrill, Head of Public Policy, PIMCO

    ·50m
  15. 15

    Alex Urdea, Founder and CIO, Deep Ocean Partners

    ·50m
  16. 16

    Andrew Lapthorne, Global Head of Quantitative Research, Societe Generale

    ·57m
  17. 17

    Closing Thoughts on 2025

    ·33m
  18. 18

    Ian Harnett, Co-Founder and Chief Investment Strategist, Absolute Strategy Research

    ·55m
  19. 19

    Kumaran Vijayakumar, Co-Founder and CEO, DataDock Solutions

    ·52m
  20. 20

    Mark Rosenberg, Founder and Co-Head, Geoquant

    ·55m
  21. 21

    Todd Rapp, CEO, Fortress Multi-Manager Group

    ·44m
  22. 22

    Jessica Stauth, CIO, Systematic Equity, Fidelity Investments

    ·53m
  23. 23

    Price is the Only Fundamental

    ·21m
  24. 24

    Megan Miller, Senior Portfolio Manager and Head of Options Solutions, Allspring Global Investments

    ·44m
  25. 25

    Jordi Visser, CEO of Visser Labs and Head of AI Macro Research at 22V

    ·56m
  26. 26

    Alex Kazan, Partner and Geopolitical Co-Lead, Brunswick Group

    ·51m
  27. 27

    Is US Stock Market Wealth a Reflexive Risk?

    ·24m
  28. 28

    Ben Hoff, Global Head of Commodity Strategy Société Générale

    ·50m
  29. 29

    RoR: Reflections on Risk

    ·32m
  30. 30

    Ken Rogoff, Professor of Economics, Harvard and Former Chief Economist, IMF

    ·54m
  31. 31

    Kris Kumar, Founder and CIO, Goose Hollow Capital

    ·59m
  32. 32

    Rainy Day Insurance Amidst the Sunshine

    ·28m
  33. 33

    Ben Hunt, Co-Founder, CIO and President, Perscient

    ·49m
  34. 34

    Distributions have Consequences

    ·22m
  35. 35

    Benn Eifert, Founder and CIO, QVR Advisors

    ·51m
  36. 36

    John Marshall, Head of Derivatives Research, Goldman Sachs

    ·1h 1m
  37. 37

    Wayne Dahl, Co-Portfolio Manager, Oaktree Capital Management

    ·52m
  38. 38

    Dan Villalon, Global Co-Head of Portfolio Solutions, AQR Capital Management

    ·1h 5m
  39. 39

    Mitchell Garfin, Co-Head of Leveraged Finance, BlackRock

    ·54m
  40. 40

    Sayings on Vol and Risk...A Fresh Five

    ·19m
  41. 41

    Benjamin Bowler, Managing Director and Global Head of Equity Derivatives Research at Bank of America

    ·54m
  42. 42

    Corey Hoffstein, CIO, Newfound Research

    ·1h
  43. 43

    The VIXgilantes Strike Back

    ·32m
  44. 44

    Matt King, Founder, Satori Insights

    ·56m
  45. 45

    Steve Englander, Head of G10 FX and North America Macro Strategy, Standard Chartered

    ·52m
  46. 46

    The Vol Shock Heard 'Round the World

    ·24m
  47. 47

    Campbel Harvey, Professor of Finance, Fuqua School of Business, Duke University

    ·37m
  48. 48

    GeoVolitics and Gold

    ·27m
  49. 49

    Owen Lamont, Senior Vice President, Acadian Asset Management

    ·55m
  50. 50

    Roxton McNeal, QIS Lead Portfolio Manager, Simplify Asset Management

    ·48m
  51. 51

    GeoVolitics, Implied Correlation and Option Pricing

    ·15m
  52. 52

    Is There a Plumbing Problem in Equity Correlation?

    ·21m
  53. 53

    20 Things to Do Before You Ask for a Price (Part 4)

    ·15m
  54. 54

    Bitcoin, Price / Vol Spirals and MSTR

    ·23m
  55. 55

    Rocky Fishman, Founder and CEO, Asym 500 LLC

    ·46m
  56. 56

    20 Things to Do Before You Ask for a Price (Part 3)

    ·17m
  57. 57

    Dominique Toublan, Head of US Credit Strategy, Barclays

    ·50m
  58. 58

    20 Things to Do Before You Ask for a Price (Part 2)

    ·17m
  59. 59

    20 Things to Do Before You Ask for a Price (Part 1)

    ·13m
  60. 60

    Post Election Reflection (on Vol)

    ·16m
  61. 61

    Shailesh Gupta, Head of Structural Alpha, Simplify Asset Management

    ·50m
  62. 62

    Meb Faber, Founder and CEO, Cambria Investment Management

    ·57m
  63. 63

    The DOTS (Discounting of Trump Success)

    ·21m
  64. 64

    Hedge When You Can, Not When You Have to

    ·16m
  65. 65

    The Opera of Option Prices

    ·17m
  66. 66

    Option Prices are Singing

    ·16m
  67. 67

    ODTE? No, OTTD!

    ·16m
  68. 68

    Kris Abdelmessih, Co-Founder, Moontower AI

    ·51m
  69. 69

    Elections Have (Vol) Consequences

    ·14m
  70. 70

    Lessons from the Rowdy VIX

    ·15m
  71. 71

    Kathryn Rooney Vera, Chief Strategist, StoneX Group Inc.

    ·40m
  72. 72

    VIX Went Cray Cray

    ·14m
  73. 73

    Vineer Bhansali, Founder and CIO, LongTail Alpha

    ·50m
  74. 74

    Oliver Brennan, FX Volatility Strategist, BNP Paribas

    ·53m
  75. 75

    Markets are Never Say Never

    ·17m
  76. 76

    Dan Greenhaus, Chief Strategist, Solus Alternative Asset Management LP

    ·55m
  77. 77

    Lisa O'Connor, Head of Global Model Portfolios & Co-CIO for Multi-Asset Solutions, BlackRock

    ·40m
  78. 78

    Man and Markets On Wire

    ·16m
  79. 79

    Vol Laundering and the Portrait of a Perfect Hedge

    ·14m
  80. 80

    Michelle Meyer, Chief Economist, Head of the Mastercard Economics Institute

    ·38m
  81. 81

    Cuban’s Collar is Jensen’s Alpha

    ·17m
  82. 82

    Correlation, Crowding and Convexity

    ·16m
  83. 83

    Garrett DeSimone, Head of Quantitative Research at OptionMetrics

    ·49m
  84. 84

    There’s No Crying in Correlation

    ·14m
  85. 85

    The Zeroes…A Cross Asset Sequel

    ·14m
  86. 86

    Raghuram Rajan, Professor of Finance, Chicago Booth, and Former Head of Reserve Bank of India

    ·53m
  87. 87

    Harry Markopolos, "The Man Who Knew"

    ·41m
  88. 88

    Kris Kumar, CIO, Goose Hollow Capital

    ·1h 3m
  89. 89

    Jerry Peters, Managing Partner, Smithbrook, LLC

    ·57m
  90. 90

    Mandy Xu, Head of Derivatives Market Intelligence, Cboe Global Markets

    ·54m
  91. 91

    Kieran Goodwin, Consultant, Saba Capital Management

    ·52m
  92. 92

    Lori Calvasina, Head of US Equity Strategy, RBC Capital Markets

    ·48m
  93. 93

    25 Sayings on Vol and Risk…Part 5 of 5

    ·28m
  94. 94

    25 Sayings on Vol and Risk…Part 4 of 5

    ·28m
  95. 95

    Jared Dillian, Author: “No Worries: How to Live a Stress-free Financial Life”

    Hidden gem

    Jared Dillian joins Dean Kernut on Alpha Exchange to discuss No Worries: How to Live a Stress-Free Financial Life and why debt and risk create most financial stress.

    ·38m·3 clips
  96. 96

    Low Correlation is the Defining Risk in Markets

    Dean Curnutt discusses the unsustainable nature of historically low stock correlation in U.S.

    ·25m
  97. 97

    GME 5 Years Later…Lessons and Threats

    Dean Kernut reflects on the GameStop saga five years later, discussing lessons learned and ongoing threats in financial markets.

    ·23m
  98. 98

    Michael Green, CFA, Portfolio Manager, Chief Strategist, Simplify Asset Management

    Michael Green discusses how leveraged ETFs on MSTR create unique risks due to their size and the underlying asset's volatility, potentially amplifying market movements.

    ·55m
  99. 99

    Victor Haghani, Founder and CIO, Elm Partners

    Victor Haghani discusses the risks and modeling of leveraged ETFs tied to MicroStrategy and Bitcoin.

    ·56m
  100. 100

    David Puritz, Founder and Chief Investment Officer, Shaolin Capital Management

    David Puritz discusses convertible bond trading, risk, and liquidity, highlighting areas with little margin for error and the role of Bitcoin as a hedge against fiat currency risk.

    ·57m
  101. 101

    Vice Chairman of Goldman Sachs, and former President of the Dallas Fed

    Hidden gem

    ["Rob Kaplan, Goldman Sachs vice chairman and former Dallas Fed president, says the Fed can move the policy rate but not control fiscal policy, regulation, or Treasury supply.", "He argues that demographics, deglobalization, Chinese overcapacity, and technology-enabled disruption helped keep inflation below 2% for years, then the 2020 fiscal-and-monetary response overheated the economy.", "Kaplan describes his lone 2020 dissent as a warning against committing to zero rates and bond buying while a massive fiscal impulse was already coming.", "The sharpest turns are his warnings on private credit, AI-driven disruption, and the long end of the Treasury curve, which he says now reacts more to supply and demand than to Fed cuts."]

    Apr 13, 2026·52m·3 clips
  102. 102

    Wayne Dahl, Co-Portfolio Manager, Oaktree Capital Management

    Wayne Dahl of Oaktree Capital Management explains how convertible arbitrage taught him to measure simultaneous exposure to rates, credit, equity, financing, and stock borrowing.

    Apr 7, 2026·52m·3 clips
  103. 103

    Alpha Exchange 250th Episode: A Retrospective

    Dean Curnutt reflects on the Alpha Exchange's 250 episodes, discussing his risk framework and plans for the platform's future.

    Apr 2, 2026·1h 3m
  104. 104

    The Shock Heard ‘Round the World: US Government Bonds

    Dean Kernutt discusses the risks of US government bonds and market disruption amid technological and geopolitical changes.

    Mar 31, 2026·52m
  105. 105

    Kris Abdelmessih, Co-Founder, Moontower.ai

    Kris Abdelmessih discusses option pricing, volatility regimes, and mental math shortcuts for traders, with a focus on commodity markets and financial education.

    Mar 13, 2026·53m
  106. 106

    Zach Buchwald, Chairman and CEO, Russell Investments

    Hidden gem

    Zach Buchwald, chairman and CEO of Russell Investments, frames the firm around open-architecture portfolios, OCIO implementation, and retirement security across $370 billion in client assets.

    Mar 9, 2026·45m·2 clips
  107. 107

    Alberto Gallo, Founder and Chief Investment Officer, Andromeda Capital Management

    Hidden gem

    Alberto Gallo says private credit is not paying enough for default, liquidity, or volatility risk.

    Mar 4, 2026·52m·2 clips
  108. 108

    Michael Contopoulos, Deputy Chief Investment Officer, Richard Bernstein Advisors

    On The Alpha Exchange, host Dean Kernutt talks with Michael Kontopoulos, Deputy CIO of Richard Bernstein Advisors, about portfolio construction amid extreme US equity concentration.

    Feb 19, 2026·49m·4 clips
  109. 109

    Louis Vincent Gave, Founding Partner & Chief Executive Officer, Gavekal Research

    Feb 4, 2026·52m
  110. 110

    Libby Cantrill, Head of Public Policy, PIMCO

    Jan 30, 2026·50m
  111. 111

    GME 5 Years Later…Lessons and Threats

    Jan 27, 2026·23m
  112. 112

    Alex Urdea, Founder and CIO, Deep Ocean Partners

    Jan 26, 2026·50m
  113. 113

    Andrew Lapthorne, Global Head of Quantitative Research, Societe Generale

    Jan 15, 2026·57m
  114. 114

    Closing Thoughts on 2025

    Dec 31, 2025·33m
  115. 115

    Ian Harnett, Co-Founder and Chief Investment Strategist, Absolute Strategy Research

    Dec 19, 2025·55m
  116. 116

    Kumaran Vijayakumar, Co-Founder and CEO, DataDock Solutions

    Dec 16, 2025·52m
  117. 117

    Mark Rosenberg, Founder and Co-Head, Geoquant

    Dec 12, 2025·55m
  118. 118

    Todd Rapp, CEO, Fortress Multi-Manager Group

    Dec 9, 2025·44m
  119. 119

    Jessica Stauth, CIO, Systematic Equity, Fidelity Investments

    Dec 2, 2025·53m
  120. 120

    Price is the Only Fundamental

    Nov 25, 2025·21m
  121. 121

    Megan Miller, Senior Portfolio Manager and Head of Options Solutions, Allspring Global Investments

    Nov 21, 2025·44m
  122. 122

    Jordi Visser, CEO of Visser Labs and Head of AI Macro Research at 22V

    Nov 18, 2025·56m
  123. 123

    Alex Kazan, Partner and Geopolitical Co-Lead, Brunswick Group

    Oct 28, 2025·51m
  124. 124

    Is US Stock Market Wealth a Reflexive Risk?

    Oct 28, 2025·24m
  125. 125

    Ben Hoff, Global Head of Commodity Strategy Société Générale

    Oct 22, 2025·50m
  126. 126

    Low Correlation is the Defining Risk in Markets

    Oct 1, 2025·25m
  127. 127

    David Puritz, Founder and Chief Investment Officer, Shaolin Capital Management

    Sep 19, 2025·57m
  128. 128

    RoR: Reflections on Risk

    Sep 15, 2025·32m
  129. 129

    Ken Rogoff, Professor of Economics, Harvard and Former Chief Economist, IMF

    Sep 2, 2025·54m
  130. 130

    Kris Kumar, Founder and CIO, Goose Hollow Capital

    Aug 21, 2025·59m
  131. 131

    Rainy Day Insurance Amidst the Sunshine

    Aug 19, 2025·28m
  132. 132

    Ben Hunt, Co-Founder, CIO and President, Perscient

    Aug 13, 2025·49m
  133. 133

    Distributions have Consequences

    Jul 18, 2025·22m
  134. 134

    Benn Eifert, Founder and CIO, QVR Advisors

    Jun 30, 2025·51m
  135. 135

    John Marshall, Head of Derivatives Research, Goldman Sachs

    Jun 17, 2025·1h 1m
  136. 136

    Sayings on Vol and Risk...A Fresh 10

    Jun 14, 2025·21m
  137. 137

    Dan Villalon, Global Co-Head of Portfolio Solutions, AQR Capital Management

    Jun 13, 2025·1h 5m
  138. 138

    Mitchell Garfin, Co-Head of Leveraged Finance, BlackRock

    Jun 5, 2025·54m
  139. 139

    Sayings on Vol and Risk...A Fresh Five

    Jun 4, 2025·19m
  140. 140

    Benjamin Bowler, Managing Director and Global Head of Equity Derivatives Research at Bank of America

    May 20, 2025·54m
  141. 141

    Corey Hoffstein, CIO, Newfound Research

    Apr 30, 2025·1h
  142. 142

    The VIXgilantes Strike Back

    Apr 28, 2025·32m
  143. 143

    Matt King, Founder, Satori Insights

    Apr 25, 2025·56m
  144. 144

    Steve Englander, Head of G10 FX and North America Macro Strategy, Standard Chartered

    Apr 23, 2025·52m
  145. 145

    The Vol Shock Heard 'Round the World

    Apr 7, 2025·24m
  146. 146

    Campbel Harvey, Professor of Finance, Fuqua School of Business, Duke University

    Mar 31, 2025·37m
  147. 147

    GeoVolitics and Gold

    Mar 24, 2025·27m
  148. 148

    Owen Lamont, Senior Vice President, Acadian Asset Management

    Mar 11, 2025·55m
  149. 149

    Roxton McNeal, QIS Lead Portfolio Manager, Simplify Asset Management

    Mar 4, 2025·48m
  150. 150

    GeoVolitics, Implied Correlation and Option Pricing

    Mar 3, 2025·15m