
Institutional market risk, patiently examined.
The gist
Alpha Exchange studies how serious investors think when markets stop behaving cleanly. Its conversations move through monetary policy, credit spreads, volatility, retirement portfolios, AI infrastructure, and the price of liquidity with a patient institutional lens.
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About Alpha Exchange
Alpha Exchange is a markets podcast for people who think in risk premia, balance sheets, and second-order effects. It is not built around hot takes. The show’s center of gravity is the patient examination of how market participants make decisions when the macro backdrop becomes hard to simplify. Episodes regularly connect economic, monetary, financial, and geopolitical risks, treating them as overlapping forces rather than separate categories. That structure gives the conversations a consistent spine. One week the focus may be the Fed’s tradeoff between inflation and employment; another may move into credit spreads, private credit liquidity, options volatility, or the long-dated financing behind AI infrastructure. The tone is serious and technical, but not performative. Guests are encouraged to explain their process, where models fail, and why discipline matters when markets reward crowded behavior. Credit receives especially close attention. Conversations with investors from Oaktree Capital Management, Andromeda Capital Management, Russell Investments, and Richard Bernstein Advisors show the program’s bias toward portfolio construction, downside control, manager selection, and the real price of liquidity. Volatility is another recurring thread, from commodity options and VIX relationships to trader mental math around straddles and implied probabilities. Monetary policy appears less as a partisan subject than as one input among fiscal policy, regulation, demographics, leverage, productivity, and market structure. The show is at its best when it slows down a familiar market phrase and asks what is actually being priced. It is also comfortable with humility. Predictions are less important than understanding which assumptions are fragile. The result is a thoughtful, institutionally minded guide to modern markets for listeners who already know the vocabulary and want sharper ways to organize uncertainty.
Made for: Alpha Exchange is for investors, allocators, advisors, traders, and financially fluent listeners who want rigorous conversations about risk, return, and portfolio construction. It suits people who prefer frameworks and market structure over quick predictions.
What sets it apart: The show stands out by using established industry professionals to examine how different forms of risk interact across cycles. Its edge is the repeated focus on whether investors are actually being compensated for liquidity, credit, duration, volatility, and leverage.
In their own words
The Alpha Exchange is a podcast series launched by Dean Curnutt to explore topics in financial markets, risk management and capital allocation in the alternatives industry. Our in depth discussions with highly established industry professionals seek to uncover the nuanced and complex interactions between economic, monetary, financial, regulatory and geopolitical sources of risk. We aim to learn from the perspective our guests can bring with respect to the history of financial and business cycles, promoting a better understanding among listeners as to how prior periods provide important context to present day dynamics. The “price of risk” is an important topic. Here we engage experts in their…
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Based on 6 episodes we listened to · September 2026
Alpha Exchange turns institutional investment debates into clear examinations of pricing, discipline and the risks hidden inside portfolios.
Dean Kernut keeps Alpha Exchange focused on how investment decisions behave under pressure. His interviews connect portfolio construction to the forces that can disturb it, moving through corporate credit, interest rates, equity concentration, liquidity and retirement planning…
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Credit spreads, student loans: Dean Curnutt keeps you asking what risk is actually costing you.
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- to hear why a higher bond yield might leave you underpaid for the risk of selling
- to think about retirement portfolios as more than a choice of funds
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Episodes
- 1
Sayings on Vol and Risk...A Fresh 10
·21m - 2
Alpha Exchange 250th Episode: A Retrospective
·1h 3m - 3
The Shock Heard ‘Round the World: US Government Bonds
·52m - 4
Kris Abdelmessih, Co-Founder, Moontower.ai
·53m - 5
Eric Balchunas, Senior ETF Analyst, Bloomberg Intelligence
·46m - 6
Anniversary Episode: Reflections on the Podcast
·48m - 7
Digital Gold and Actual Gold
·19m - 8
IBIT…the Hottest Option on the Planet
·21m - 9
Ali Samadi, Managing Director, Equity Derivatives, Nomura Securities
·52m - 10
Zach Buchwald, Chairman and CEO, Russell Investments
·45m - 11
Alberto Gallo, Founder and Chief Investment Officer, Andromeda Capital Management
·52m - 12
Michael Contopoulos, Deputy Chief Investment Officer, Richard Bernstein Advisors
·49m - 13
Louis Vincent Gave, Founding Partner & Chief Executive Officer, Gavekal Research
·52m - 14
Libby Cantrill, Head of Public Policy, PIMCO
·50m - 15
Alex Urdea, Founder and CIO, Deep Ocean Partners
·50m - 16
Andrew Lapthorne, Global Head of Quantitative Research, Societe Generale
·57m - 17
Closing Thoughts on 2025
·33m - 18
Ian Harnett, Co-Founder and Chief Investment Strategist, Absolute Strategy Research
·55m - 19
Kumaran Vijayakumar, Co-Founder and CEO, DataDock Solutions
·52m - 20
Mark Rosenberg, Founder and Co-Head, Geoquant
·55m - 21
Todd Rapp, CEO, Fortress Multi-Manager Group
·44m - 22
Jessica Stauth, CIO, Systematic Equity, Fidelity Investments
·53m - 23
Price is the Only Fundamental
·21m - 24
Megan Miller, Senior Portfolio Manager and Head of Options Solutions, Allspring Global Investments
·44m - 25
Jordi Visser, CEO of Visser Labs and Head of AI Macro Research at 22V
·56m - 26
Alex Kazan, Partner and Geopolitical Co-Lead, Brunswick Group
·51m - 27
Is US Stock Market Wealth a Reflexive Risk?
·24m - 28
Ben Hoff, Global Head of Commodity Strategy Société Générale
·50m - 29
RoR: Reflections on Risk
·32m - 30
Ken Rogoff, Professor of Economics, Harvard and Former Chief Economist, IMF
·54m - 31
Kris Kumar, Founder and CIO, Goose Hollow Capital
·59m - 32
Rainy Day Insurance Amidst the Sunshine
·28m - 33
Ben Hunt, Co-Founder, CIO and President, Perscient
·49m - 34
Distributions have Consequences
·22m - 35
Benn Eifert, Founder and CIO, QVR Advisors
·51m - 36
John Marshall, Head of Derivatives Research, Goldman Sachs
·1h 1m - 37
Wayne Dahl, Co-Portfolio Manager, Oaktree Capital Management
·52m - 38
Dan Villalon, Global Co-Head of Portfolio Solutions, AQR Capital Management
·1h 5m - 39
Mitchell Garfin, Co-Head of Leveraged Finance, BlackRock
·54m - 40
Sayings on Vol and Risk...A Fresh Five
·19m - 41
Benjamin Bowler, Managing Director and Global Head of Equity Derivatives Research at Bank of America
·54m - 42
Corey Hoffstein, CIO, Newfound Research
·1h - 43
The VIXgilantes Strike Back
·32m - 44
Matt King, Founder, Satori Insights
·56m - 45
Steve Englander, Head of G10 FX and North America Macro Strategy, Standard Chartered
·52m - 46
The Vol Shock Heard 'Round the World
·24m - 47
Campbel Harvey, Professor of Finance, Fuqua School of Business, Duke University
·37m - 48
GeoVolitics and Gold
·27m - 49
Owen Lamont, Senior Vice President, Acadian Asset Management
·55m - 50
Roxton McNeal, QIS Lead Portfolio Manager, Simplify Asset Management
·48m - 51
GeoVolitics, Implied Correlation and Option Pricing
·15m - 52
Is There a Plumbing Problem in Equity Correlation?
·21m - 53
20 Things to Do Before You Ask for a Price (Part 4)
·15m - 54
Bitcoin, Price / Vol Spirals and MSTR
·23m - 55
Rocky Fishman, Founder and CEO, Asym 500 LLC
·46m - 56
20 Things to Do Before You Ask for a Price (Part 3)
·17m - 57
Dominique Toublan, Head of US Credit Strategy, Barclays
·50m - 58
20 Things to Do Before You Ask for a Price (Part 2)
·17m - 59
20 Things to Do Before You Ask for a Price (Part 1)
·13m - 60
Post Election Reflection (on Vol)
·16m - 61
Shailesh Gupta, Head of Structural Alpha, Simplify Asset Management
·50m - 62
Meb Faber, Founder and CEO, Cambria Investment Management
·57m - 63
The DOTS (Discounting of Trump Success)
·21m - 64
Hedge When You Can, Not When You Have to
·16m - 65
The Opera of Option Prices
·17m - 66
Option Prices are Singing
·16m - 67
ODTE? No, OTTD!
·16m - 68
Kris Abdelmessih, Co-Founder, Moontower AI
·51m - 69
Elections Have (Vol) Consequences
·14m - 70
Lessons from the Rowdy VIX
·15m - 71
Kathryn Rooney Vera, Chief Strategist, StoneX Group Inc.
·40m - 72
VIX Went Cray Cray
·14m - 73
Vineer Bhansali, Founder and CIO, LongTail Alpha
·50m - 74
Oliver Brennan, FX Volatility Strategist, BNP Paribas
·53m - 75
Markets are Never Say Never
·17m - 76
Dan Greenhaus, Chief Strategist, Solus Alternative Asset Management LP
·55m - 77
Lisa O'Connor, Head of Global Model Portfolios & Co-CIO for Multi-Asset Solutions, BlackRock
·40m - 78
Man and Markets On Wire
·16m - 79
Vol Laundering and the Portrait of a Perfect Hedge
·14m - 80
Michelle Meyer, Chief Economist, Head of the Mastercard Economics Institute
·38m - 81
Cuban’s Collar is Jensen’s Alpha
·17m - 82
Correlation, Crowding and Convexity
·16m - 83
Garrett DeSimone, Head of Quantitative Research at OptionMetrics
·49m - 84
There’s No Crying in Correlation
·14m - 85
The Zeroes…A Cross Asset Sequel
·14m - 86
Raghuram Rajan, Professor of Finance, Chicago Booth, and Former Head of Reserve Bank of India
·53m - 87
Harry Markopolos, "The Man Who Knew"
·41m - 88
Kris Kumar, CIO, Goose Hollow Capital
·1h 3m - 89
Jerry Peters, Managing Partner, Smithbrook, LLC
·57m - 90
Mandy Xu, Head of Derivatives Market Intelligence, Cboe Global Markets
·54m - 91
Kieran Goodwin, Consultant, Saba Capital Management
·52m - 92
Lori Calvasina, Head of US Equity Strategy, RBC Capital Markets
·48m - 93
25 Sayings on Vol and Risk…Part 5 of 5
·28m - 94
25 Sayings on Vol and Risk…Part 4 of 5
·28m - 95
Jared Dillian, Author: “No Worries: How to Live a Stress-free Financial Life”
Hidden gemJared Dillian joins Dean Kernut on Alpha Exchange to discuss No Worries: How to Live a Stress-Free Financial Life and why debt and risk create most financial stress.
·38m·3 clips - 96
Low Correlation is the Defining Risk in Markets
Dean Curnutt discusses the unsustainable nature of historically low stock correlation in U.S.
·25m - 97
GME 5 Years Later…Lessons and Threats
Dean Kernut reflects on the GameStop saga five years later, discussing lessons learned and ongoing threats in financial markets.
·23m - 98
Michael Green, CFA, Portfolio Manager, Chief Strategist, Simplify Asset Management
Michael Green discusses how leveraged ETFs on MSTR create unique risks due to their size and the underlying asset's volatility, potentially amplifying market movements.
·55m - 99
Victor Haghani, Founder and CIO, Elm Partners
Victor Haghani discusses the risks and modeling of leveraged ETFs tied to MicroStrategy and Bitcoin.
·56m - 100
David Puritz, Founder and Chief Investment Officer, Shaolin Capital Management
David Puritz discusses convertible bond trading, risk, and liquidity, highlighting areas with little margin for error and the role of Bitcoin as a hedge against fiat currency risk.
·57m - 101
Vice Chairman of Goldman Sachs, and former President of the Dallas Fed
Hidden gem["Rob Kaplan, Goldman Sachs vice chairman and former Dallas Fed president, says the Fed can move the policy rate but not control fiscal policy, regulation, or Treasury supply.", "He argues that demographics, deglobalization, Chinese overcapacity, and technology-enabled disruption helped keep inflation below 2% for years, then the 2020 fiscal-and-monetary response overheated the economy.", "Kaplan describes his lone 2020 dissent as a warning against committing to zero rates and bond buying while a massive fiscal impulse was already coming.", "The sharpest turns are his warnings on private credit, AI-driven disruption, and the long end of the Treasury curve, which he says now reacts more to supply and demand than to Fed cuts."]
Apr 13, 2026·52m·3 clips - 102
Wayne Dahl, Co-Portfolio Manager, Oaktree Capital Management
Wayne Dahl of Oaktree Capital Management explains how convertible arbitrage taught him to measure simultaneous exposure to rates, credit, equity, financing, and stock borrowing.
Apr 7, 2026·52m·3 clips - 103
Alpha Exchange 250th Episode: A Retrospective
Dean Curnutt reflects on the Alpha Exchange's 250 episodes, discussing his risk framework and plans for the platform's future.
Apr 2, 2026·1h 3m - 104
The Shock Heard ‘Round the World: US Government Bonds
Dean Kernutt discusses the risks of US government bonds and market disruption amid technological and geopolitical changes.
Mar 31, 2026·52m - 105
Kris Abdelmessih, Co-Founder, Moontower.ai
Kris Abdelmessih discusses option pricing, volatility regimes, and mental math shortcuts for traders, with a focus on commodity markets and financial education.
Mar 13, 2026·53m - 106
Zach Buchwald, Chairman and CEO, Russell Investments
Hidden gemZach Buchwald, chairman and CEO of Russell Investments, frames the firm around open-architecture portfolios, OCIO implementation, and retirement security across $370 billion in client assets.
Mar 9, 2026·45m·2 clips - 107
Alberto Gallo, Founder and Chief Investment Officer, Andromeda Capital Management
Hidden gemAlberto Gallo says private credit is not paying enough for default, liquidity, or volatility risk.
Mar 4, 2026·52m·2 clips - 108
Michael Contopoulos, Deputy Chief Investment Officer, Richard Bernstein Advisors
On The Alpha Exchange, host Dean Kernutt talks with Michael Kontopoulos, Deputy CIO of Richard Bernstein Advisors, about portfolio construction amid extreme US equity concentration.
Feb 19, 2026·49m·4 clips - 109
Louis Vincent Gave, Founding Partner & Chief Executive Officer, Gavekal Research
Feb 4, 2026·52m - 110
Libby Cantrill, Head of Public Policy, PIMCO
Jan 30, 2026·50m - 111
GME 5 Years Later…Lessons and Threats
Jan 27, 2026·23m - 112
Alex Urdea, Founder and CIO, Deep Ocean Partners
Jan 26, 2026·50m - 113
Andrew Lapthorne, Global Head of Quantitative Research, Societe Generale
Jan 15, 2026·57m - 114
Closing Thoughts on 2025
Dec 31, 2025·33m - 115
Ian Harnett, Co-Founder and Chief Investment Strategist, Absolute Strategy Research
Dec 19, 2025·55m - 116
Kumaran Vijayakumar, Co-Founder and CEO, DataDock Solutions
Dec 16, 2025·52m - 117
Mark Rosenberg, Founder and Co-Head, Geoquant
Dec 12, 2025·55m - 118
Todd Rapp, CEO, Fortress Multi-Manager Group
Dec 9, 2025·44m - 119
Jessica Stauth, CIO, Systematic Equity, Fidelity Investments
Dec 2, 2025·53m - 120
Price is the Only Fundamental
Nov 25, 2025·21m - 121
Megan Miller, Senior Portfolio Manager and Head of Options Solutions, Allspring Global Investments
Nov 21, 2025·44m - 122
Jordi Visser, CEO of Visser Labs and Head of AI Macro Research at 22V
Nov 18, 2025·56m - 123
Alex Kazan, Partner and Geopolitical Co-Lead, Brunswick Group
Oct 28, 2025·51m - 124
Is US Stock Market Wealth a Reflexive Risk?
Oct 28, 2025·24m - 125
Ben Hoff, Global Head of Commodity Strategy Société Générale
Oct 22, 2025·50m - 126
Low Correlation is the Defining Risk in Markets
Oct 1, 2025·25m - 127
David Puritz, Founder and Chief Investment Officer, Shaolin Capital Management
Sep 19, 2025·57m - 128
RoR: Reflections on Risk
Sep 15, 2025·32m - 129
Ken Rogoff, Professor of Economics, Harvard and Former Chief Economist, IMF
Sep 2, 2025·54m - 130
Kris Kumar, Founder and CIO, Goose Hollow Capital
Aug 21, 2025·59m - 131
Rainy Day Insurance Amidst the Sunshine
Aug 19, 2025·28m - 132
Ben Hunt, Co-Founder, CIO and President, Perscient
Aug 13, 2025·49m - 133
Distributions have Consequences
Jul 18, 2025·22m - 134
Benn Eifert, Founder and CIO, QVR Advisors
Jun 30, 2025·51m - 135
John Marshall, Head of Derivatives Research, Goldman Sachs
Jun 17, 2025·1h 1m - 136
Sayings on Vol and Risk...A Fresh 10
Jun 14, 2025·21m - 137
Dan Villalon, Global Co-Head of Portfolio Solutions, AQR Capital Management
Jun 13, 2025·1h 5m - 138
Mitchell Garfin, Co-Head of Leveraged Finance, BlackRock
Jun 5, 2025·54m - 139
Sayings on Vol and Risk...A Fresh Five
Jun 4, 2025·19m - 140
Benjamin Bowler, Managing Director and Global Head of Equity Derivatives Research at Bank of America
May 20, 2025·54m - 141
Corey Hoffstein, CIO, Newfound Research
Apr 30, 2025·1h - 142
The VIXgilantes Strike Back
Apr 28, 2025·32m - 143
Matt King, Founder, Satori Insights
Apr 25, 2025·56m - 144
Steve Englander, Head of G10 FX and North America Macro Strategy, Standard Chartered
Apr 23, 2025·52m - 145
The Vol Shock Heard 'Round the World
Apr 7, 2025·24m - 146
Campbel Harvey, Professor of Finance, Fuqua School of Business, Duke University
Mar 31, 2025·37m - 147
GeoVolitics and Gold
Mar 24, 2025·27m - 148
Owen Lamont, Senior Vice President, Acadian Asset Management
Mar 11, 2025·55m - 149
Roxton McNeal, QIS Lead Portfolio Manager, Simplify Asset Management
Mar 4, 2025·48m - 150
GeoVolitics, Implied Correlation and Option Pricing
Mar 3, 2025·15m