The person beyond the job title.
What's Your "And"? profiles professionals through the lives they lead outside their job titles. A CEO's wandering, a CPA's world travel, an accountant's comedy, or a food lover's restaurant rankings become clues about listening, balance, relatability, and culture.
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What's Your "And"? is a workplace conversation show built around the parts of people that do not fit on a business card. The central question is direct. Who else is someone beyond the job title? John Garrett uses that question to pull accountants, consultants, lawyers, engineers, CEOs, business advisors, directors, and other professionals into stories about travel, comedy, food, cars, brewing, racing, and the small enthusiasms that make a person easier to know. The episodes usually begin lightly. A rapid run of casual prompts creates momentum before the conversation shifts into the guest's bigger story. That structure matters because the show is not just collecting quirky hobbies. It is watching how those hobbies change the way people work. Beth Goff-McMillan's wandering becomes a way to talk about cultural curiosity, silence, deeper questions, and the shared experiences that make client and employee conversations less surface-level. Jackie Meyer turns world travel and the Pura Vida lifestyle into a larger reflection on burnout, balance, and micro goals for neglected parts of life. Dan McMahon's improv and stand-up stories become sharp lessons in preparation, audience awareness, listening, and adjusting when a room does not respond the same way twice. Rachel Farris brings restaurant rankings and food recommendations into a surprisingly organized portrait of memory, taste, community, and helpfulness. Joe Pope's home brewing and smoked meats sit comfortably beside professional-services marketing. Steve Ferguson's racetrack interest adds a thrill-seeking edge to a show that still stays warm and approachable. The tone is friendly, plainspoken, and gently amused. It does not turn guests into case studies. It lets them tell stories, then connects those stories back to culture, relatability, and human connection at work. The best moments happen when a hobby stops sounding like an aside and starts explaining why someone asks better questions, prepares more carefully, or brings more of themselves into a room. For listeners tired of polished career branding, the appeal is the ordinary specificity. People talk about restaurants, travel, comedy sets, cars, beer, presentations, and the strange ways those details become professional strengths. The result is a career show with more personality than doctrine. It makes the argument that work gets better when people are allowed to be more than useful.
Made for: For professionals, managers, accountants, consultants, and workplace-culture listeners who like career conversations grounded in lived stories. It especially fits people who care about balance, identity, and making work feel more human.
What sets it apart: Rather than treating hobbies as icebreakers, the show follows them all the way into workplace behavior. Travel, comedy, food, brewing, and cars become practical evidence for listening, preparation, connection, and culture.
John Garrett's research involves asking professionals, "Who else are you beyond your job title?" Accountants, consultants, lawyers, engineers, and other professionals everywhere are doing hobbies and passions after they leave the office. We discuss why these outside-of-work interests matter and how they've impacted their career.
Based on 6 episodes we listened to · September 2026
John Garrett turns personal pursuits into clear lessons about professional identity, workplace relationships, resilience, and the habits people carry back to work.
What's Your "And"? asks professionals to explain the pursuits that remain visible after the job title drops away. John Garrett keeps those conversations grounded in working life, drawing connections between personal interests and qualities such as preparation, resilience,…
John Garrett seats your job title beside your runner, foodie, or improv-comic self.
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Curiosity becomes leadership when wandering turns into better listening.
Beth Goff-McMillan's wandering streak gives the episode its shape, with travel and curiosity turning into a clear case for how she leads. The strongest moments stay grounded in practice: shared experiences and slower, deeper listening make a CEO feel more approachable to…
A grounded conversation about work, balance, and the parts of life that get crowded out.
Jackie Meyer’s conversation on What's Your And? looks at what changes when work stops being the whole answer. It starts with life in Costa Rica, then moves through accounting, innovation at work, and the strain of treating success as a single track.
A practical look at improv, standup, and the work habits they reveal.
The episode uses improv and standup as a practical lens on work: how to prepare, how to respond, and why the room matters. The strongest stretch is the contrast between the two forms, then the way that difference gets carried over into accounting and board presentations.
Rachel Farris shows how a food obsession can matter without being turned into a side hustle.
Rachel Farris comes across as someone who treats food like a running notebook, not a brand. She uses Belly to rank restaurants, save photos, jot short reviews, and sort favorites by location, dish, and cuisine.
A running story that ties New York grit to life beyond the job title.
Calvin Harris treats running less like a hobby than a way of making sense of identity, work, and the city around him. The episode works best when it stays close to New York, especially in the way he talks about a place that keeps moving even when plans do not.
Mountain biking turns into a practical lesson in confidence and mindset.
Dave Olson's mountain-bike story keeps the episode grounded in confidence, mindset, and the way a serious hobby can spill over into work and family life.
A beach-volleyball story about burnout, failure, and how outside interests shape the way someone shows up at work.
Casey Eames gives the identity-at-work conversation a grounded, practical angle by connecting beach volleyball with the realities of failure, burnout, and progress.
Stephen Dubner tests bourbon economics, Alzheimer's research, and money advice against hard data.
Daily business news with Kai Ryssdal, tracking Fed policy, oil shocks, and private credit.
Galloway rotates Office Hours Q&A, Raging Moderates politics, and China Decode geopolitics weekly.
Joel and Matt answer listener money questions weekly in the show's Ask HTM segments.
Brené Brown's long-form conversations linking grief, caregiving, politics, and nonviolence to her vulnerability research.
Beth Goff-McMillan brings wandering into the room, and it suits her.
Jackie Meyer opens with Pura Vida, and John Garrett uses the show's quick human-first setup to get to her and: Costa Rica, travel, balance, and a life bigger than a job title.
Episode 715 starts loose and finds its use.
This episode features an interview with Mark Mandel, owner of Select Flooring Design, exploring how his passion for cars and other interests outside work contribute to his professional identity and corporate culture.
John Garrett interviews Joe Pope, a director of business development who also brews beer, exploring how outside passions enhance professional identity and corporate culture.
This episode features an interview with Catherine Mattis, an accountant who is also a comedian, exploring how her passion for comedy enhances her professional life and contributes to workplace culture.
Rachel Farris brings the foodie energy, then immediately makes it organized.
This episode features an interview with Steve Ferguson, an insurance professional who balances his career with thrill-seeking hobbies like racing, exploring how outside passions enhance work performance and corporate culture.
This episode features an interview with Michael Horwitz, an executive director who also plays tennis, exploring how outside passions enhance professional identity and workplace culture.
John Garrett interviews Tim Allen, a Chief Growth Officer and freelance writer, about how personal passions outside of work can enhance professional identity and corporate culture.
Host John Garrett interviews professionals about their outside-of-work passions and how those interests differentiate them and impact their careers.
Jon Garrett interviews professionals about their outside-of-work passions and how these interests impact their careers and corporate culture.
Calvin Harris opens with running.
John Garrett interviews professionals about their outside-of-work passions and how these interests impact their careers and corporate culture.
John Garrett interviews professionals about their hobbies and passions outside of work and how these interests impact their careers and corporate culture.
Host John Garrett interviews professionals about their outside-of-work passions and how these interests impact their careers and corporate culture.
John Garrett interviews professionals about their outside-of-work passions and how those interests differentiate them and impact their careers.
Host John Garrett interviews professionals about their outside-of-work passions and how those interests differentiate them and impact their careers.
Host John Garrett interviews professionals about their hobbies and passions outside of work and how these interests impact their careers and corporate culture.
Dave rides mountain bikes.
John Garrett interviews professionals about their outside-of-work passions and how these interests differentiate them and impact their careers.
John Garrett interviews professionals about their outside-of-work passions and how those interests differentiate them in their careers.
Host John Garrett interviews Claire Dowdle, a brand director who powerlifts, about how her hobby impacts her career and corporate culture.
John Garrett interviews professionals about their hobbies and passions outside of work and how these interests impact their careers and corporate culture.
John Garrett interviews professionals about their outside-of-work passions and how those interests impact their careers and corporate culture.
Host John Garrett interviews professionals about their hobbies and passions outside of work and how these interests impact their careers and corporate culture.
John Garrett interviews professionals about their hobbies and passions outside of work and how these interests impact their careers and corporate culture.
This episode features an interview with Joel Zeff, a keynote speaker and improv comedian, discussing how outside passions and interests can enhance professional life and workplace culture.
Casey Eames brings the beach energy.
This episode features an interview with Adam Shay, a former accounting firm owner turned business coach, discussing how his passion for mountain activities influences his professional life and the importance of hobbies beyond work.
John Garrett interviews professionals about their outside-of-work passions and how these interests differentiate them and impact their careers.
John Garrett interviews professionals about their outside-of-work passions and how those interests impact their careers and corporate culture.
John Garrett interviews professionals about their hobbies and passions outside of work and how these interests impact their careers.
Host John Garrett interviews professionals about their outside-of-work passions and how those interests differentiate them and impact their careers.
Host John Garrett interviews professionals about their hobbies and passions outside of work and how these interests impact their careers.