What's Your "And"? · John Garrett

715: Dan McMahon is a Business Advisor & Improv Comedian [podcast]

March 11, 2026·37 min·2 clips
Improv taught Dan to show up, stay calm, and get the right answer instead of pretending he had one.
Episode 715 opens with John's quick setup. He talks about making work more human and points the conversation toward the interests people carry outside the job title. Dan McMahon's and is dabbling in improvisational comedy, which gives the episode a pretty good excuse to talk about attention, confidence, and what people practice when they are nowhere near their desk. The comedy comparison is where it starts to click. Improv begins with audience suggestions, so the room can feel bought in before the scene really starts. Someone says rake, and now they want to see where it goes. Standup is rougher. The performer walks out in front of strangers who have not agreed to help. Different kind of pressure. John connects that to standup, where the laugh belongs to the person onstage and the material comes from observation. Dan brings it back to accounting. He compares standup preparation with walking into a board of directors meeting or a big firm presentation as a partner or managing partner. You better be ready. Improv, though, trains a different muscle: listening closely, responding in the moment, and moving the exchange along without trying to script every turn. The best detail is how unpredictable the whole thing stays. John says a joke can crush in one Friday show and fall flat in the next, even with the same performer, same day, same town, same everything. Comedy does not fully behave. So the work becomes testing, trimming, swapping words and syllables, and polishing until the idea lands with more people. That is the useful part hiding inside the laughs. The hobby does not come across as an escape from professional life. It feels more like another classroom for it. By the close, the point is simple: who someone is beyond the title can change how they connect, prepare, recover, and lead when the room is watching.

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A practical look at improv, standup, and the work habits they reveal.

The episode uses improv and standup as a practical lens on work: how to prepare, how to respond, and why the room matters. The strongest stretch is the contrast between the two forms, then the way that difference gets carried over into accounting and board presentations.

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You want a conversation where improv comedy and accounting both point back to preparation.

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