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Pop culture inspires some serious fun.Join hosts Todd Coats and Elliot Strunk, two creatively curious pals living between the bookends of grand museums and dive bars, the sweet spot where highbrow and lowbrow become drinking buddies. They talk influential work and uncover stories of how the familiar became iconic. Think Behind the Music for the stuff we love.-----Visit https://www.twodesignerswalkintoabar.com/ for images, links, episode extras and more.-----Two Designers Walk Into a Bar is part of the Evergreen Podcasts network.

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Based on 6 episodes we listened to · September 2026

Elliot and Todd turn familiar pop-culture artifacts into clear, funny lessons in design choices, commercial context, and visual memory.

Elliot and Todd take familiar pop-culture objects seriously enough to trace how they were designed, sold, copied, and remembered, while keeping the conversation loose and joke-heavy.

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Gritty meets Boo-Berry at the bar; your mascot curiosity finally has company.

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The 1960s and the Era of Peak Psychedelia

Psychedelia is handled as a lively pop-culture history, with enough banter to keep the discussion moving.

Two Designers Walk Into a Bar treats peak psychedelia as a mainstream-culture story, tracing how design and music were reshaped by experimentation and then filtered through Life Magazine, Look Magazine, Saturday Evening Post, the radio, and even living rooms.

Talking Food Mascots with Kirk + Kurtts (Classic)

Food advertising mascots become a sharp, design-minded look at branding and consumer intelligence.

This episode uses food advertising mascots as a way into branding, memory, and the strange afterlife some characters get once they outgrow the ads that made them.

Giving Thanks for Norman Rockwell’s Four Freedoms

A warm reappraisal of Rockwell that treats clarity as a serious artistic skill.

This holiday-season episode uses the Four Freedoms to frame Norman Rockwell as more than a sentimental illustrator. It presents the long-held critical view plainly, then makes a sturdier case for him as a visual storyteller and a visual historian with real empathy.

The Fall and Rise (Again) of Tiki Culture

A warm look at tiki's afterlife as design, nostalgia, and subculture.

Tiki is treated less like a novelty and more like a design language with a long tail: it fades as a suburban craze, then turns up again in the late 90s and early 2000s through lowbrow art, rockabilly, nostalgia, and craft cocktails.

NBC, Netflix and Network Branding

Branding history that makes a peacock, a chime, and a punchline feel like the same problem.

Two Designers Walk Into a Bar makes NBC and Netflix feel like a neat lesson in how branding can survive a shift in technology. It moves cleanly from the network-versus-content-provider setup into NBC's Peacock history, then into the 1980 update that brought six feathers, bold…

Punk Meets Tech and New Wave is Born (Classic)

A loose, lively look at how punk bent into new wave.

The episode traces punk's push against the establishment and the way new wave carried that rebellion into a cleaner, more synthetic form. It anchors the argument in specifics: 1977 vinyl sales peaking at almost 350 million albums, several bands signing their first record…

Good Movies and Old Books - A Conversation with Matt Stevens (Part 2)

Design talk about fake artifacts, tactile form, and the craft behind objects that feel real.

The episode keeps returning to a useful question: how digital design can feel collectible, tactile, and worth holding onto. It spends time on fake artifacts, the appeal of objects that look real, and the pull of journals, sketchbooks, Field Notes-style riffs, Blue Note covers,…

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Episodes

  1. 1

    Punk Meets Tech and New Wave is Born (Classic)

    Hidden gem

    1977 is the hinge.

    ·41m·2 clips
  2. 2

    NBC, Netflix and Network Branding

    Hidden gem

    First, no, not those identities.

    ·40m·2 clips
  3. 3

    Scary Good Posters - The Thing and The Creature from the Black Lagoon

    Hidden gem

    Horror posters get pulled up to the bar.

    ·38m·2 clips
  4. 4

    Cat Posters with Paul Hennessey (Classic)

    Hidden gem

    Cats and posters take the bar stool.

    ·44m·2 clips
  5. 5

    The Origin Story of Psychedelia

    Hidden gem

    Magic is the recurring bit.

    ·33m·2 clips
  6. 6

    Talking Food Mascots with Kirk + Kurtts (Classic)

    Hidden gem

    Food mascots pull up a stool.

    ·32m·2 clips
  7. 7

    Good Movies and Old Books - A Conversation with Matt Stevens (Part 2)

    Matt Stevens is back at the bar.

    ·36m·3 clips
  8. 8

    Good Movies and Old Books - A Conversation with Matt Stevens (Part 1)

    Pebble ice first.

    ·36m·3 clips
  9. 9

    The Origin Story of Rudolph the Red-Nosed Reindeer

    Hidden gem

    Rudolph starts as retail strategy with antlers.

    ·34m·2 clips
  10. 10

    Giving Thanks for Norman Rockwell’s Four Freedoms

    Hidden gem

    Turkey derails the cold open.

    ·37m·2 clips
  11. 11

    Politicians, Superheroes and Stars - Noteworthy Magazine Covers

    Hidden gem

    Magazines still mattered.

    ·56m·3 clips
  12. 12

    The 1960s and the Era of Peak Psychedelia

    Hidden gem

    Mid-1960s psychedelia walks into the bar.

    ·33m·2 clips
  13. 13

    Trailblazing Toys - Hot Wheels Cars and Mego Action Figures

    Hidden gem

    Childhood closets get opened first.

    ·51m·5 clips
  14. 14

    Monster Sponsors - Gritty from Philly and Monster Cereals from General Mills

    Hidden gem

    October gets monster duty.

    ·41m·2 clips
  15. 15

    Tiki Culture: The Story of Post-War Polynesian Pop

    Hidden gem

    Coconut mugs show up first.

    ·32m·2 clips
  16. 16

    Embracing and Evolving the Tiki Style

    Hidden gem

    Lowbrow, highbrow, or lowenbrow?

    ·34m·2 clips
  17. 17

    The Fall and Rise (Again) of Tiki Culture

    Hidden gem

    A Bahama Mama joke starts the conga line, and the episode follows it right into the weeds.

    ·37m·2 clips
  18. 18

    Cups, Plates and Trophy Design

    ·36m
  19. 19

    The Batmobile and the DeLorean - Iconic Pop Culture Cars

    Hidden gem

    Cars show up before the topic has its seat.

    ·47m·3 clips
  20. 20

    Homage Designs - A Poster for Swatch and an Orgy for Disney

    Hidden gem

    Imitation gets put on trial, sort of.

    ·50m·3 clips
  21. 21

    Psychedelia Comes Down, Hangs Around and Gets Reinvented

    Hidden gem

    Psychedelia had reached Sears.

    ·33m·2 clips
  22. 22

    Fabric Patterns and the Stories Behind Camouflage and Paisley

    Hosts discuss iconic fabric patterns like paisley and their cultural significance.

    Apr 15, 2026·52m
  23. 23

    Foxes, Flies and the Design of Blaxploitation Posters

    The hosts discuss a film genre that blends action, civil rights, and empowerment, touching on various subgenres like martial arts, westerns, and horror.

    Jun 11, 2025·47m
  24. 24

    Cups, Plates and Trophy Design

    Hosts discuss iconic trophies like the Wimbledon Venus Rosewater Dish and the Stanley Cup, exploring their design and cultural significance.

    May 28, 2025·35m
  25. 25

    U.S. Military Propaganda Posters

    Hosts discuss the histories of iconic posters and characters Rosie the Riveter and Uncle Sam in a wartime propaganda episode.

    May 14, 2025·37m
  26. 26

    The State Flags of Ohio and Maryland

    Hosts Todd and Elliot discuss the design and history of U.S.

    Apr 30, 2025·46m
  27. 27

    Iconic Book Covers for Jurassic Park and The Great Gatsby

    Apr 16, 2025·37m
  28. 28

    Movie Studio Logos for 20th Century Fox and Warner Brothers

    Apr 2, 2025·50m
  29. 29

    Game Show Logos for The Gong Show and Match Game

    Mar 19, 2025·1h 5m
  30. 30

    Al Hirschfeld and Elvis, Postage Stamps - Part 2

    Mar 5, 2025·50m
  31. 31

    The Penny Black and Dag Hammarskjöld, Postage Stamps - Part 1

    Feb 19, 2025·42m
  32. 32

    Food Mascots with Kirk + Kurtts

    Feb 5, 2025·32m
  33. 33

    Cat Posters with Paul Hennessey

    Jan 22, 2025·43m
  34. 34

    Goodyear’s Blimp, Pixar’s Luxo Lamp and How Objects Become Company Icons (Classic)

    Jan 8, 2025·1h 5m
  35. 35

    The ‘80s: New Wave Gets Fashionable (Classic)

    Dec 25, 2024·36m
  36. 36

    Elliot and MTV's The Real World

    Dec 11, 2024·16m
  37. 37

    Return to the Mailbag

    Nov 27, 2024·40m
  38. 38

    Iconic Music Videos - Part 2

    Nov 13, 2024·47m
  39. 39

    Rural Electrification, Hope for Obama and Posters for Good (Classic)

    Nov 5, 2024·45m
  40. 40

    Attack of the 50 Ft. Woman, Tarantula and the Amazing Art of Reynold Brown (Classic)

    Oct 30, 2024·59m
  41. 41

    Iconic Music Videos - Part 1

    Oct 23, 2024·44m
  42. 42

    Roller Coaster Logo Battle

    Oct 9, 2024·55m
  43. 43

    Looking Back on Four Years

    Sep 25, 2024·45m
  44. 44

    Talking Music Posters with Paul Hennessey

    Sep 11, 2024·33m
  45. 45

    Gen X and the Golden Age of Magazines

    Aug 28, 2024·59m
  46. 46

    Gen X Music Appears from Underground

    Aug 14, 2024·1h
  47. 47

    Selling to Gen X Without Selling Out

    Two designers discuss iconic design and pop culture influences over drinks.

    Jul 31, 2024·55m
  48. 48

    Denver, Los Angeles and Stories of Designing for the Olympic Games (Classic)

    Jul 26, 2024·58m
  49. 49

    When Gen X Came of Age

    Jul 17, 2024·42m
  50. 50

    Riffs on Riffs Crossover

    Jul 3, 2024·1h 13m
  51. 51

    Fun Food Containers

    Jun 19, 2024·52m
  52. 52

    Vernacular Architecture

    Jun 5, 2024·53m
  53. 53

    Signs of the Times

    May 22, 2024·47m
  54. 54

    The Reflex Blue Conversation

    May 8, 2024·44m
  55. 55

    Hey, Nice Package!

    Apr 24, 2024·46m
  56. 56

    The ‘80s: New Wave Gets Fashionable

    Apr 10, 2024·36m
  57. 57

    Design Crimes: Comic Sans: Who’s Laughing Now?

    Apr 1, 2024·3m
  58. 58

    The ‘80s: New Wave and the Boob Tube

    Mar 27, 2024·47m
  59. 59

    The ‘80s: Punk Meets Tech, New Wave is Born

    Mar 13, 2024·40m
  60. 60

    Pepsi, Tropicana and the Challenge of Good Design

    Feb 28, 2024·8m
  61. 61

    Six Marines, One Photographer. The Story of Iwo Jima

    Feb 21, 2024·10m
  62. 62

    The Goodyear Blimp: More Than a Bunch of Hot Air

    Feb 14, 2024·11m
  63. 63

    Black Cats, Fireworks and Celebrating a Logo We Love

    Feb 7, 2024·8m
  64. 64

    KISS and their Flaming Wheel of Death

    Jan 31, 2024·10m
  65. 65

    When the Beats Moved a Generation

    Jan 24, 2024·12m
  66. 66

    All Mascots Are Wieners in Our Eyes

    Jan 17, 2024·10m
  67. 67

    The Failure of Google Glass

    Jan 10, 2024·10m
  68. 68

    1979, Disco and the Opening of Studio 54

    Jan 3, 2024·9m
  69. 69

    Rubber Chickens vs. Whoopee Cushions

    Two hosts humorously discuss and compare iconic pop culture items like the whoopee cushion and rubber chicken.

    Dec 20, 2023·42m
  70. 70

    Charles Atlas vs. Art Instruction Schools

    Two designers discuss iconic design in pop culture, starting with comic books that inspired their creative futures.

    Dec 6, 2023·49m
  71. 71

    Ant Farms vs. Sea Monkeys

    Two designers discuss pop culture and iconic design, exploring themes like comic books and mail-order novelties.

    Nov 22, 2023·48m
  72. 72

    Andy Warhol: When The Factory Meets Studio 54

    Nov 8, 2023·47m
  73. 73

    Andy Warhol: Movies Emerge from the Underground - Part 2

    Oct 25, 2023·39m
  74. 74

    Andy Warhol: Movies Emerge from the Underground - Part 1

    Oct 11, 2023·37m
  75. 75

    Andy Warhol: Album Covers Take a Walk on the Wild Side - Part 2

    Sep 27, 2023·36m
  76. 76

    Andy Warhol: Album Covers Take a Walk on the Wild Side - Part 1

    Sep 13, 2023·41m
  77. 77

    Bonus Episode: Nostalgia and Marketing: A Conversation with Kate Christensen

    Hosts Todd Coats and Elliot Strunk interview Kate Christensen about marketing and nostalgia, discussing toys, food, and childhood memories.

    Sep 8, 2023·54m
  78. 78

    Andy Warhol: The Silver Wears Off The Factory - Part 2

    Aug 30, 2023·31m
  79. 79

    Andy Warhol: The Silver Wears Off The Factory - Part 1

    Aug 16, 2023·25m
  80. 80

    Andy Warhol: New York and Rise of The Silver Factory - Part 2

    Aug 2, 2023·29m
  81. 81

    Andy Warhol: New York and Rise of The Silver Factory - Part 1

    Jul 19, 2023·33m
  82. 82

    Andy Warhol: Andy Becomes the Center of Pop Life

    Jul 5, 2023·43m
  83. 83

    Andy Warhol: The 1960s Scene and the Emergence of Pop

    Jun 21, 2023·39m
  84. 84

    The Pepsi (Logo) Challenge

    Jun 7, 2023·32m
  85. 85

    Listener Mail

    May 24, 2023·24m
  86. 86

    The Beat Era: Frank Sinatra and His Golden…Arm?

    May 10, 2023·46m
  87. 87

    The Beat Era: Beats, Beatniks and Myth vs. Reality

    Apr 26, 2023·1h 1m
  88. 88

    The Beat Era: Illustration and Artwork Styles with Jim Flora

    Apr 12, 2023·29m
  89. 89

    The Beat Era: Illustration and Artwork Styles with S. Neil Fujita

    Mar 29, 2023·43m
  90. 90

    The Beat Era: Illustration and Artwork Styles with David Stone Martin

    Mar 15, 2023·36m
  91. 91

    The Beat Era: Andy Warhol and Jazz Albums (Bonus!)

    Mar 1, 2023·15m
  92. 92

    The Beat Era: The Beat Era: John Hermansader and Two Iconic Jazz Album Designs

    Feb 15, 2023·37m
  93. 93

    The Beat Era: The Origins of the Blue Note Records “Look”

    Feb 1, 2023·43m
  94. 94

    The Beat Era: Pollock’s Drips and How They Changed the Art World

    Jan 18, 2023·38m
  95. 95

    The Beat Era: Kerouac’s On the Road and the Movement It Started

    Jan 4, 2023·46m
  96. 96

    Season 3 Preview: The Beats, Studio 54, 80s Modern and 90s Grunge

    Sep 12, 2022·3m
  97. 97

    Bar Snacks with Kyle Webster - Part 4 (Dire Straits, Super Mario, Street Fighter, Tennis and Alex Gross)

    Jul 20, 2022·18m
  98. 98

    Bar Snacks with Kyle Webster - Part 3 (Mood Lighting, Bourbon, Egg Nog and A Room with a View)

    Jul 6, 2022·12m
  99. 99

    Bar Snacks with Kyle Webster - Part 2 (Superman II, The Michelin Man, The Kool-Aid Man, Snap, Crackle and Pop, and Hanna-Barbera)

    Jun 22, 2022·15m
  100. 100

    Bar Snacks with Kyle Webster - Part 1 (MAD Magazine, Puma and Bugs Bunny)

    Jun 8, 2022·14m
  101. 101

    Bar Snacks with Lenny Terenzi - Part 4 (Sega, Dr. Strange, Italian Sausage, Guitar and Lowbrow Artists)

    May 25, 2022·16m
  102. 102

    Bar Snacks with Lenny Terenzi - Part 3 (Vodka and Cranberry, The Finger Lakes and Iron Maiden)

    May 11, 2022·12m
  103. 103

    Bar Snacks with Lenny Terenzi - Part 2 (Looney Tunes, Superman II, McDonald's Characters and Monster Cereals)

    Apr 27, 2022·13m
  104. 104

    Bar Snacks with Lenny Terenzi - Part 1 (G.I. Joe, Disney Maps, I Love NY and Foghorn Leghorn)

    Apr 13, 2022·14m
  105. 105

    Bar Snacks with Terry Marks - Part 4 (Steve Miller, Blue Note Records, Centipede, Meat Pies, the Fez and the Art of Alex Toth)

    Mar 30, 2022·22m
  106. 106

    Bar Snacks with Terry Marks - Part 3 (Wine Labels, The Manhattan and Bali)

    Mar 16, 2022·14m
  107. 107

    Bar Snacks with Terry Marks - Part 2 (Clint Eastwood, Big Boy and Space Ghost)

    Mar 2, 2022·18m
  108. 108

    Bar Snacks with Terry Marks - Part 1 (Batman, Sinclair Oil and Calvin and Hobbes)

    Feb 16, 2022·14m
  109. 109

    Best of Season 2 (Episodes 21 through 26)

    Feb 2, 2022·1h 1m
  110. 110

    Best of Season 2 (Episodes 15 through 20)

    Jan 19, 2022·1h 13m
  111. 111

    Hobos, Dollar Bills and Secret Codes Hidden in Plain Sight

    Nov 24, 2021·1h 5m
  112. 112

    Carnivalé, Six Feet Under and the Joy of Title Design

    Nov 10, 2021·53m
  113. 113

    Attack of the 50 Ft. Woman, Tarantula and the Amazing Art of Reynold Brown

    Oct 27, 2021·58m
  114. 114

    The Dead Kennedys, The Ramones and Punk Rock Logos

    Oct 13, 2021·50m
  115. 115

    Bigfoot, Iwo Jima and the Backstories of Two Iconic Images

    Sep 29, 2021·1h 6m
  116. 116

    The Onion, Batman and the Joy of Well-Designed Books

    Sep 15, 2021·42m
  117. 117

    Oranges in Syracuse, Sausages in Milwaukee and the Origin Stories of Sports Mascots

    Sep 1, 2021·50m
  118. 118

    Switzerland, Panama, Patriotism and the Design of Flags

    Aug 18, 2021·44m
  119. 119

    The Pink Panther, The Three Little Pigs and the Magic of Saturday Morning Cartoons

    Aug 4, 2021·43m
  120. 120

    Denver, Los Angeles and Stories of Designing for the Olympic Games

    Jul 21, 2021·57m
  121. 121

    American Psycho, It’s a Mad, Mad, Mad, Mad World and a Couple of Iconic Movie Props

    Jul 7, 2021·41m
  122. 122

    OK Soda, Google Glass and the Stories of Two Magnificent Flops

    Jun 23, 2021·47m
  123. 123

    Best of Season 1 (Episodes 7 through 12)

    May 19, 2021·58m
  124. 124

    Best of Season 1 (Episodes 1 through 6)

    Apr 14, 2021·30m
  125. 125

    Dogs Playing Poker, Ernest P. Worrell and Pitchmen Going Pop

    Feb 17, 2021·34m
  126. 126

    Wacky Packages, Garbage Pail Kids and the MAD Magazine Connection

    Feb 3, 2021·39m
  127. 127

    Union 76, Holiday Inn and Signs from the Open Road

    Jan 20, 2021·43m
  128. 128

    Goodyear’s Blimp, Pixar’s Luxo Lamp and How Objects Become Company Icons

    Jan 6, 2021·1h 4m
  129. 129

    The Origin Story of the Hollywood Sign

    Dec 30, 2020·25m
  130. 130

    Ghostbusters, The Rocketeer and Logos Made for Adventure

    Dec 23, 2020·43m
  131. 131

    Tootsie Rolls, The Dukes of Hazzard and Childhood Memories

    Dec 9, 2020·39m
  132. 132

    Voodoo Doughnuts, Black Cat Fireworks and Other Unsung Logos

    Nov 25, 2020·44m
  133. 133

    Rat Fink, Screaming Hands and West Coast Street Culture

    Nov 11, 2020·39m
  134. 134

    Reddy Kilowatt, Big Boy and Advertising Mascots

    Oct 28, 2020·40m
  135. 135

    Rural Electrification, Hope for Obama and Posters for Good

    Oct 14, 2020·44m
  136. 136

    KISS, The Bicentennial and the Year 1976

    Sep 30, 2020·42m
  137. 137

    MAD Magazine, Humor and Finding Pop Culture Inspiration

    Sep 29, 2020·36m
  138. 138

    Grab a Quick Drink With Us...

    Sep 28, 2020·4m