The PIO Podcast

Robert Tornabene

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Public information work, under real pressure.

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The PIO Podcast centers the working problems of police, fire, EMS, and local government communicators. Robert Tornabene talks with practitioners about trust, transparency, media pressure, internal messaging, crisis speed, and public information that has real consequences.

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About The PIO Podcast

The PIO Podcast is built around the craft of public information work in police, fire, EMS, and local government settings. Robert Tornabene frames the conversations from inside that world, with an emphasis on decisions that have to hold up under public scrutiny. The show is not broad civics talk. It is about the message that goes out during a chemical concern, a wildfire, a family tragedy, a fentanyl awareness effort, or a fast-moving reputational threat. Recent episodes repeatedly return to trust. One conversation uses a local retention pond study to show the value of plain language, FAQs, and information that residents can revisit. Another stresses that crisis speed matters because the first public statement may become the version people remember. The show also pays attention to what agencies overlook: not only the incident, but the public reaction to how the incident was communicated. Its strongest material often lives in that second layer. Family liaison work brings the most human stakes, with discussion of death notifications, silence, presence, and the difference between protecting a family and giving a family enough information to act. Wildfire communication expands the job beyond flames and evacuation language, connecting public messaging to rural communities, the wine industry, defensible space, and home hardening. A fentanyl episode pairs emotional storytelling with the need for factual information rather than fear alone. Internal communication appears as a practical discipline too, built on knowing employees before crisis pressure arrives. Small-agency communication gets its own attention, including the reality that a PIO may have limited resources and a media outlet may not be able to reach every scene. The AI conversation adds a contemporary risk: altered images and videos used against public safety agencies or protesters. Across these subjects, the show keeps returning to preparation, credibility, and candor. The pace is conversational, sometimes informal, but the concerns are concrete. It is less about producing perfect language than making public language useful. Guests bring field examples, and the host keeps steering back to practical takeaways. For PlayNext, the show offers a narrow but valuable shelf: communication work where timing, empathy, and accuracy can change the outcome.

Made for: Suits a listener who works in or around public-sector communication and wants practical judgment from police, fire, EMS, and local government contexts. It also fits crisis communicators who care about trust, timing, and plain language.

What sets it apart: The show stands apart by staying close to the PIO role itself: media relations, internal communication, family liaison concerns, crisis messaging, and community trust all meet in the same practical lane.

In their own words

The PIO Podcast is a platform for Public Information Officers (PIO's) and Public Affairs Officers (PAO's) in public sector organizations, including Police, Fire, EMS, FEMA, state, local, and federal government organizations. The podcast aims to facilitate learning, growth, and discussion of issues that PIO's/PAO's may encounter within their profession. If you would like to support the podcast and connect with other PIO's/PAO's, please email us at [email protected].

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A small-city PIO considers interviewing himself for reporters; you can decide if it works.

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  • to catch the trust cost of a broken city webpage before a resident chases the city manager
  • to prepare for people questioning your crisis response, not just the incident
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Best episodes of The PIO Podcast

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Authenticity Is The Key To Trust with Antonia Steinmiller S6-E14Apr 15, 2026

A Homewood communicator makes the case that plain language and open access help transparency matter when local trust is under pressure.

Trust in local government gets tested around a retention pond, as worries about chemicals, fishing, and animal life force public information work into practical terms.

The Art of Storytelling in Communication with Shel Holtz S6 - E 13Apr 8, 2026

A clear conversation about speed, trust, and the second crisis agencies face when they must explain their choices.

Public-sector communication is under the most strain when facts are still forming and the public is already watching. Robert Tornabene's conversation with Shel Holtz, Director of Internal Communication for WebCorp, turns that pressure into a practical look at crisis response:…

Empathy in Action: Family Liaison Strategies with Moose MutlowApr 2, 2026

Moose Mutlow makes a grounded case for clear notifications, patient presence, and truth without ego.

Public safety communication comes under its hardest pressure when a family is receiving devastating news, and Moose Mutlow keeps that reality at the center.

Mastering Public Safety Communication: Insights from Braden Frame S6 - E11Mar 25, 2026

A grounded public safety discussion on leadership, messaging, and the credibility risks created by AI.

The PIO Podcast frames public safety communication as part of everyday local government leadership, not just press work. Robert Tornabene's conversation with Brayden Frame, CEO of the Cartographers Group, focuses on how police, fire, EMS, and government communicators build trust…

Navigating Wildfire Communication: Insights from Cal Fire S6-E10 Nick Schuler, Cal FireMar 18, 2026

Wildfire communication, community impact, and home-hardening choices get a practical review.

Wildfire communication is treated here as part of the job, not an add-on, in a conversation with Nick Shuler, Cal Fire's Deputy Director of Communications and Incident Awareness.

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Episodes

  1. 1

    Authenticity Is The Key To Trust with Antonia Steinmiller S6-E14

    Hidden gem

    Antonia Steinmiller says Homewood, Illinois earns trust by asking a blunt question: "am I buying what I'm selling?" As communications manager for the Village of Homewood, she handles social media, website content, press releases, newsletters, magazines, graphic design, and civic engagement.

    Apr 15, 2026·37m·2 clips
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    The Art of Storytelling in Communication with Shel Holtz S6 - E 13

    Hidden gem

    The PIO Podcast opens with Robert Tornabene saying the show is for police, fire, EMS, and local government communicators, and he frames the episode around Shel Holtz's decades in communication.

    Apr 8, 2026·50m·4 clips
  3. 3

    Empathy in Action: Family Liaison Strategies with Moose Mutlow

    Hidden gem

    ["The PIO Podcast pairs host Robert Tornabene with Moose Mutlow, a crisis communication and family liaison trainer who says he moved from wilderness guiding and environmental science into public information work.", "Mutlow says family liaison starts with verified facts, so he triple-checks every report with the incident commander, field staff, and a chief before telling relatives anything.", "He argues that families should get written options, clear timing, and space to process grief, and he says nothing should reach the public until the family has been informed.", "The discussion also covers secondary harm, the Marines' stress continuum, Hillsborough, Yosemite, and why he thinks empathy, not ego, should guide crisis communication."]

    Apr 2, 2026·43m·2 clips
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    Mastering Public Safety Communication: Insights from Braden Frame S6 - E11

    Hidden gem

    The PIO Podcast episode with Brayden Frame centers on public safety communication strategy for police, fire, EMS, and local government.

    Mar 25, 2026·52m·4 clips
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    Navigating Wildfire Communication: Insights from Cal Fire S6-E10 Nick Schuler, Cal Fire

    Hidden gem

    The PIO Podcast's interview with Nick Shuler centers on Cal Fire's wildfire communication strategy across California.

    Mar 18, 2026·36m·2 clips
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    The Alarming Rise of Fentanyl: A Conversation with Brian Townsend, S6 - E9

    The PIO Podcast host Robert Tornabene interviews retired DEA agent Brian Townsend about illicit fentanyl, which Townsend calls the most impactful drug he encountered during 30 years in law enforcement.

    Mar 11, 2026·44m·3 clips
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    S6 - E8: Jen Becker - JB Comms Consulting

    Hidden gem

    Jen Becker of JBComs, LLC explains how internal communication failures affect employees, public information officers, and crisis response.

    Mar 4, 2026·54m·3 clips
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    S6 - E7: Kevin Mangan - PIO High Springs Fire Dept, High Springs FL

    Hidden gem

    The PIO Podcast interviews Kevin Mangan, public information officer for High Springs, Florida, about communicating for a small city and fire department with more than 7,000 residents.

    Feb 25, 2026·46m·3 clips
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    S6 - E6: Brian Murray - PIO & Deputy Emergency Management Coordinator Harris Cty Tx

    Hidden gem

    Brian Murray, PIO and deputy emergency management coordinator for Harris County, Texas, explains how a jurisdiction larger in population than 26 states prepares messages for floods, hurricanes, hazardous-material spills, industrial accidents, and overlapping incidents.

    Feb 18, 2026·36m·2 clips
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    S6 - E5: Brenden Elwood - Vice President of Market Research for CivicPlus

    Hidden gem

    Robert Tornabene interviews Civic Plus VP of Market Research Brendan Elwood, who also serves on a city council in Washington’s King County, about public engagement and local-government communication.

    Feb 11, 2026·50m·4 clips
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    S6 - E4: Gretchen Papez - Valley Health Systems

    Feb 4, 2026·41m
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    S6 - E3: Lisa McDonald -Communications Manager - City of Oveido, FL

    Jan 28, 2026·41m
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    S6 - E2: Gaurav Gupta, Managing Director of R & D - Kotter

    Jan 21, 2026·43m
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    S6 - E1 Deana DiPaola - PIO Altamonte Springs, FL

    Jan 14, 2026·28m
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    Countdown of the Top Ten Most Downloaded Episodes of 2025.

    Dec 17, 2025·2m
  16. 16

    S5 - E46: Katie Watts, PIO - Farifax County Police Department

    Nov 26, 2025·34m
  17. 17

    S5 - E45: Brandon Karr - DroneSense by Versaterm - Versaterm

    Nov 19, 2025·40m
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    S5 - E44: Chief of Police Kevin Warych - Sun Prairie Police Department, WI

    Nov 12, 2025·34m
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    S5 - E43: Susan Simons - Under the Shield

    Nov 5, 2025·50m
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    S5 - E42: Jeffrey Wenninger - Law Enforcement Consultants

    Oct 29, 2025·50m
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    S5 - E41: Erin Stillwagon - PIO - Garden City Fire Department, KS

    Oct 22, 2025·38m
  22. 22

    S5 - E40: Tiffany Muehlbauer - CEO - Arma Communications

    Oct 15, 2025·36m
  23. 23

    S5 - E39: Drew Anderson - PIO - Bellevue PD (WA)

    Oct 8, 2025·34m
  24. 24

    S5 - E38 Matthew Oleniuk - Risk Insider

    Oct 1, 2025·35m
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    S5- E37: John Pope, PIO Newport Beach, CA

    Sep 24, 2025·56m
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    S4 - E36; Parth Shah, CEO, Polimorphic

    Sep 17, 2025·47m
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    S5 - E35: Cmdr. Michael Shaw - Michigan State Police

    Sep 10, 2025·35m
  28. 28

    S5 - E34: Jennifer Hillman PIO Thompson Valley EMS, CO

    Sep 3, 2025·41m
  29. 29

    S5 - E33: Carla Burr - PIO - Amarilla PD, TX

    Aug 27, 2025·40m
  30. 30

    S5 - #32: Jen Longaecker, Deputy Communications Director - MPS

    Aug 20, 2025·49m
  31. 31

    S5 - E 31: Meeghan Black, Public Information Officer, Renton Police Department WA

    Aug 13, 2025·40m
  32. 32

    Special Edition Episode#3: Chief of Police Tom Weitzel (retired), Riverside Police Department

    Aug 8, 2025·54m
  33. 33

    S5 - E 30: Brent Patterson, PIO - Madison County Sheriffs Office, Huntsville, AL

    Aug 6, 2025·32m
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    S5 - E29: Leah Tedesco - Social Simulator

    Jul 30, 2025·34m
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    S5 - E28: Sam Toles - Civic Social

    Jul 23, 2025·1h 1m
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    S5 - E27: Amy Maxwell, PIO Hamilton County Office of Emergency Management

    Jul 16, 2025·25m
  37. 37

    S5 - E26: Amanda Schoepp, Digital Content Editor, Hyatt Hotels Corp

    Jul 9, 2025·26m
  38. 38

    S5 - E25: Jamie Sacco, PIO, City of Shawnee

    Jul 2, 2025·33m
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    S5 - E24: Juliet Casey, Director of Marketing -Los Medanos College, Pittsburgh, CA

    Jun 25, 2025·31m
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    S5 - E23: Sgt Jessica Shehan, PIO Division 1, Virginia State Police, Richmond, VA

    Jun 18, 2025·32m
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    S6 - Special Edition #2: Scott Mann, Scott Mann Podcast

    Jun 11, 2025·56m
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    S5 - E22: Stephen Kuhr - CEO - Kuhr Group

    Jun 4, 2025·45m
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    S5 - E21: Kent Keller, CEO OS Media Group

    May 28, 2025·25m
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    Special Edition with Sarah Lux - What's in your Go Bag?

    May 21, 2025·41m
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    S5 - E20: Carolina Montelongo, Public Relations Coordinator, Hillsborough County Sheriffs Office, Tampa, FL

    May 14, 2025·30m
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    S5 - E19 : Italia Tornabene - Entrepreneur

    May 7, 2025·43m
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    S5 - E18: Dawn Small, Strategic Communications Manager, Aurora Fire Rescue, Aurora, CO

    Apr 30, 2025·38m
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    S5 - E17: Rick Rice, Public Information Officer, Asheville Police Department, Asheville, NC

    Apr 23, 2025·32m
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    S5 - E16: Doug Levy - Author of The Crisis Communications Golden Hour

    Apr 16, 2025·52m
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    S5 - E 15: Ashlee Bradshaw, Public Information Officer, Kyle Police Department, Kyle, TX

    Apr 9, 2025·30m