The Aperiam Podcast

Corey Ferengul, Joe Zawadzki

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Ad tech, read below the surface.

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The Aperiam Podcast treats advertising technology as an operating system, not a buzzword category. Its conversations move through identity, DSP disruption, open-web pressure, AI search, M&A, and company-building with patient insider detail.

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About The Aperiam Podcast

The Aperiam Podcast is a business conversation for people who want the inside shape of ad tech, martech, and media investment. It is not built around quick takes. It lets operators, founders, investors, and advisors explain the constraints behind the market’s preferred abstractions. The recurring question is simple but demanding: what actually changes when technology, capital, and customer behavior shift? Episodes often begin with light industry familiarity, usually around conferences, relationships, or shared history. Then the conversation gets technical. Identity, measurement, DSP infrastructure, open-web health, AI-assisted development, data access, deal-based trading, and AI search all appear as operating problems rather than headlines. Matt Spiegel’s episode uses TransUnion as a way into marketer data maturity, AI, and the long fight for credibility in the C-suite. George Popstefanoff’s conversation turns PMG, Cody, and Momentum into a case study in independence, capital, partnership, and organizational learning. Shane Shevlin’s Bedrock Platform episode looks at media buying through cost structure, infrastructure discipline, and disruption of legacy DSP models. Terry Quaggia’s market read treats M&A announcements as visible splashes after months of below-surface movement. Jake Bachel’s appearance puts investment banking, merchant banking, advisory work, and capital deployment into the same frame. Filippo Griminia’s OneTag conversation uses co-leadership to discuss how product, engineering, commercial work, operations, finance, and HR get divided. Todd Sawicki’s Gumshoe episode follows the unsettled vocabulary around AI search and brand visibility, from GEO to AEO and related terms. The show is comfortable with jargon when the jargon carries meaning. It is also skeptical of easy AI narratives. AI is discussed through workflows, development velocity, measurement, and whether marketers can understand what is happening under the hood. The conversations are patient enough to trace how categories evolve, how companies find leverage, and how deal heat becomes actual market movement. For listeners outside the field, it may feel dense. For people inside advertising, media, data, and growth technology, that density is the point.

Made for: Built for ad-tech, martech, media, data, and investment professionals who want detailed market conversation without beginner gloss. It best suits listeners comfortable with acronyms, platform economics, and long explanations.

What sets it apart: The show turns insider access into structured market analysis, connecting product infrastructure, capital strategy, AI claims, and M&A signals in the same conversation. It is strongest when a guest’s company becomes a lens on the category around it.

In their own words

Advertising is everywhere and the technology that drives it is ever changing. The Aperiam Podcast is a weekly discussion diving deep on key topics driving the Adtech and Martech industry and is hosted by Aperiam Founder Joe Zawadzki and Partner Corey Ferengul.

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Based on 5 episodes we listened to · September 2026

The Aperiam Podcast connects ad-tech infrastructure to the management and measurement decisions that determine whether marketing investments produce useful results.

Corey Ferengul and Joe Zawadzki question advertising executives about the machinery behind marketing decisions. Their conversations move easily between company building and technical infrastructure, with guests pressed to explain how strategy works in practice rather than merely…

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Ad tech's grand promises meet the follow-up you need: what do the pipes and models actually do?

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  • Corey and Joe to make industry leaders explain the machinery behind their confident claims
  • measurement discussed beyond dashboards, down to incrementality tests, forecasting, and the decisions they support
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Identity, Measurement, and What AI Actually Changes at TransUnion with Matt SpiegelMay 6, 2026

Marketing's credibility problem meets AI, data access, and the pressure to understand what happens under the hood.

The conversation follows a familiar business tension: marketing has to prove its worth while identity, measurement, and AI keep moving. Corey and Joe speak with Matt Spiegel about true audience growth strategy at TransUnion, tracing the data journey, the gap between companies…

Building An Empire, Not A HoldcoApr 29, 2026

A close look at how one operator thinks about structure, capital, and what to build next.

George Popstefanoff, founder and CEO of PMG, anchors the conversation by laying out how PMG, Cody, and Momentum fit together. The clearest passage comes when he treats build, buy, partner, minority investment, and acquisition as parts of one operating toolkit.

The Context of CTVMar 4, 2026

CTV's scale story becomes a pricing and targeting story, not just a streaming growth story.

The conversation frames Anoki's CTV challenge clearly: a medium built for scale is now being pushed past demos, keywords, and blunt genre blocking toward something closer to digital precision targeting.

Solving MeasurementFeb 25, 2026

A grounded tour of incrementality, MMM, and the work of making measurement matter.

It treats measurement as the hard center of ad tech, with Corey and Joe Z talking with Andrew Cavato of Growth by Science about how marketers prove what actually drives revenue and growth.

More Standards - ARTF with Michael Richardson of Index ExchangeFeb 18, 2026

A focused look at how ad-tech standards shift work from manual files toward real-time automation.

The episode leans into the nuts and bolts of ad-tech standards, with Corey Ferengel and Joe Zwadsky bringing in Michael Richardson of Index Exchange to work through ARTF, OpenRTB, and the stubborn presence of flat CSVs.

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Episodes

  1. 1

    Erik Hovanec on Ad Tech M&A

    The Aperiam Podcast’s conversation with former Magnite chief strategy officer Erik Hovanec centers on ad-tech M&A and strategy.

    Sep 30, 2026·42m·2 clips
  2. 2

    Hiring Gigi, Your AI Media Manager

    Sep 23, 2026·39m
  3. 3

    Building Apps Is Solved. Distribution Isn't.

    Sep 16, 2026·37m
  4. 4

    Rebuilding the CTV Ad Server: Momentiv's Sandro Catanzaro

    Sep 9, 2026·34m
  5. 5

    A Trillion Impressions and Two Hundred Billion Dollars

    Sep 2, 2026·30m
  6. 6

    Adtech’s Financing Tax

    Aug 26, 2026·33m
  7. 7

    The CMO's AI Change Management Problem

    Aug 19, 2026·38m
  8. 8

    The Creator Flywheel

    Aug 12, 2026·34m
  9. 9

    21 Touches: Modern Performance Marketing

    Aug 5, 2026·39m
  10. 10

    From Two Years to Two Weeks: Data Readiness

    Jul 29, 2026·39m
  11. 11

    Creative Is Ad Tech's Missing Lever

    Jul 15, 2026·37m
  12. 12

    From Legos to Launch: Kevel's Commerce Media Playbook

    Jun 24, 2026·31m
  13. 13

    MMM, Unplugged

    Jun 17, 2026·29m
  14. 14

    Complexity Is the Point

    Jun 10, 2026·32m
  15. 15

    The Financialization of Media

    May 27, 2026·35m
  16. 16

    The Index Cloud with Andrew Casale

    May 20, 2026·35m
  17. 17

    Modern MMM

    May 13, 2026·30m
  18. 18

    Identity, Measurement, and What AI Actually Changes at TransUnion with Matt Spiegel

    Hidden gem

    Marketing credibility is the fight.

    May 6, 2026·36m·2 clips
  19. 19

    Building An Empire, Not A Holdco

    Hidden gem

    Corey Ferengel and Joe Zwadsky open with Miami heat.

    Apr 29, 2026·38m·2 clips
  20. 20

    Five Trends, Two Guys, and a Lot of Opinions

    Two hosts discuss emerging trends in digital marketing, starting with the state of the open web for advertising, based on their insights from reviewing numerous new companies.

    Apr 15, 2026·33m
  21. 21

    The Evolution of Media Buying

    This episode explores how Bedrock Platform is disrupting programmatic media buying through AI-assisted development and a focus on low-cost, deal-based trading as an alternative to legacy DSPs.

    Apr 8, 2026·31m
  22. 22

    Reading the Market with Terry Kawaja

    Terry Kawaja discusses the resurgence of M&A deal activity in late 2024 after a prolonged slowdown, using a whale-watching analogy to explain how transactions surprise the public but are visible to advisors in advance.

    Apr 1, 2026·34m
  23. 23

    Building a Value Exchange for the Open Internet

    The hosts interview Filippo Griminia, co-CEO of OneTag, about how he and his co-founder settled on a co-CEO structure to complement their different backgrounds in ad tech.

    Mar 25, 2026·36m
  24. 24

    The M&A Playbook

    This episode features Jake Bachel from RAINN discussing the firm's 17-year history in investment banking and M&A, focusing on sports media, entertainment, and ad tech, including their work with clients like SoftBank and Endeavor.

    Mar 18, 2026·35m
  25. 25

    What LLMs Think Of Your Brand

    This episode features an interview with Todd Sawicki, founder of Gumshoe, discussing how brands can understand and optimize for what AI and LLMs think about them, including the emerging field of Generative Engine Optimization (GEO).

    Mar 11, 2026·35m
  26. 26

    The Context of CTV

    Hidden gem

    Corey starts the conversation walking the streets of New York.

    Mar 4, 2026·35m·3 clips
  27. 27

    Solving Measurement

    Hidden gem

    Corey opens with Joe Z and a joke about the many Joe Zs floating around.

    Feb 25, 2026·34m·3 clips
  28. 28

    More Standards - ARTF with Michael Richardson of Index Exchange

    Hidden gem

    Corey Ferengel opens with name jokes before bringing in Michael Richardson of Index Exchange.

    Feb 18, 2026·35m·2 clips
  29. 29

    AdCP with Joe Hirsch of Swivel

    Feb 11, 2026·40m
  30. 30

    Swyming in Programmatic

    Feb 4, 2026·35m
  31. 31

    Not Taking Sides with Gamera

    Jan 28, 2026·42m
  32. 32

    CES 2026 Download

    Jan 21, 2026·39m
  33. 33

    2025 Wrap

    Jan 13, 2026·36m
  34. 34

    The Hidden Cost of Connectivity

    Dec 17, 2025·32m
  35. 35

    Assessing AI Impact

    Dec 10, 2025·32m
  36. 36

    Leading Through Change with Jenna Griffith

    Dec 4, 2025·36m
  37. 37

    Reshaping Creative

    Nov 19, 2025·37m
  38. 38

    Fate of The Open Web

    Nov 12, 2025·35m
  39. 39

    Building a business beyond MVP

    Oct 15, 2025·38m
  40. 40

    Yobi Striving to Redefine Consumer Decisioning

    Oct 8, 2025·39m
  41. 41

    The Outsourcing Pendulum in Marketing

    Oct 1, 2025·29m
  42. 42

    Programmatic with Yield Author Ari Paparo

    Sep 24, 2025·35m
  43. 43

    Beyond Attention: The Trust Gap in a Fragmented World

    Sep 17, 2025·29m
  44. 44

    From Opaque to Essential: The Return of the Ad Network

    Sep 3, 2025·35m
  45. 45

    AI Meets Creative Meets Media With Victoria Milo of Monks

    Aug 27, 2025·41m
  46. 46

    Fragmented Audiences & Billion-Dollar Carts

    Aug 20, 2025·32m
  47. 47

    AI In Development Survey Results

    Aug 13, 2025·32m
  48. 48

    The Attention Awakening

    Aug 6, 2025·38m
  49. 49

    The Evolution of Agencies with Jay Friedman

    Jay Friedman discusses the impact of AI, offshoring, and private equity on the agency world, highlighting challenges and changes in the industry.

    Jul 24, 2025·34m
  50. 50

    AI, Algorithms & more with Tylynn Pettry of Chalice

    This episode features an interview with Tylynn Pettry, VP of Data Science at Chalice, discussing her career path from academia to leading data science teams and the practical applications of AI and algorithms in a fast-paced startup environment.

    Jul 16, 2025·33m
  51. 51

    The Brand Perspective

    Jul 9, 2025·28m
  52. 52

    If You Were Starting an AdTech Company Today…

    Jul 2, 2025·28m
  53. 53

    Cannes Observations and Retail Media Thoughts

    Jun 27, 2025·27m
  54. 54

    Did the cookie crumble… or crack open the door to something better?

    Jun 11, 2025·32m
  55. 55

    What makes a startup investable?

    Jun 4, 2025·28m
  56. 56

    AdTech M&A: Strategies, Stories, and Surprises

    May 28, 2025·33m
  57. 57

    The Xander Shutdown And The Future Of DSPs

    May 21, 2025·25m
  58. 58

    Curation Nation or Buy Side Story? A Debate

    May 14, 2025·33m
  59. 59

    POSSIBLE 2025 Recap

    May 7, 2025·23m
  60. 60

    Retail Media, Telco Innovation & Ad Tech Resilience with Ana Milicevic

    This episode features a discussion with Ana Milicevic about retail media, telecommunications innovation, and the resilience of advertising technology, drawing on her experience with companies like ID5, Adobe, and Bell Media.

    Apr 30, 2025·34m
  61. 61

    Check Out Of The Hotel Googlefornia

    Apr 24, 2025·12m
  62. 62

    Debate: CTV Walled Garden vs. Open Garden

    This episode is a debate about CTV walled garden versus open garden approaches, featuring hosts Corey Ferengel and Joe Zwadsky with guest Erica discussing advertising strategies and market dynamics.

    Apr 23, 2025·31m
  63. 63

    Creatively Creative

    Apr 16, 2025·29m
  64. 64

    I Want My CTV.

    Apr 9, 2025·27m
  65. 65

    AI and Advertising

    Mar 27, 2025·38m