State of the CIO

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Enterprise IT leaders, one candid conversation at a time.

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Dan Kelly sits down with CIOs, chief innovation officers, an advisor to CIOs and a cybersecurity specialist to talk through the practical side of enterprise technology. The conversations range from why the HL7 health-data standard frustrates a healthcare CIO to a security expert explaining why he does not recommend penetration tests.

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About State of the CIO

State of the CIO is an interview show hosted by Dan Kelly, built on a premise stated in its cold open: talking with America's top IT leaders about the changing role of technology in the C-suite. The guest list is broader than the title suggests. Alongside sitting CIOs from Winnebago Industries and Symphony Care Network, Kelly talks with chief innovation officers from Spirian and Hitachi Vantara, an advisor to CIOs, and a cybersecurity specialist whose work has ranged from Fortune 500 companies and international banks to the CIA. Kelly works to a routine. He says he always starts by setting out the key topics and a little of the guest's background, and in one conversation he asks his guest to explain penetration testing for listeners before they discuss whether it is worth doing. The edges stay relaxed, with small talk about the weather or laughs shared before the record button. Nathan Taylor describes how, after more than twenty years of work, a healthcare provider still struggles to exchange data with large healthcare networks, even though banking handles the same thing with no problem. He calls HL7 a standard that lacked standardization, since a lab value could arrive as a number, a percentage, a symbol or plain text, and his answer turns toward APIs becoming easier to develop. Sri Koneru agrees with Kelly's soapbox argument that an IT organization without people who can speak business is bound to fail, and he credits his own path to the culture he absorbed early in his career at Target. Privacy and security come up more than once. Gabe Gumbs points out that a PhD in data privacy is 'not a thing', so organizations waiting for the field and its people to mature will be left behind. He adds that cloud and machine learning, both built on large volumes of data, need protection that goes beyond deciding who can access the cloud. Dr. Eric Cole explains a penetration test as a full-scale simulated attack launched from little more than a domain name or a business card. Then he says plainly that he does not recommend them, and he admits that a lot of security people do not like him. Data is another thread. Bill Schmarzo explains why his title reads Chief Innovation Officer rather than Chief Information Officer, arguing that most organizations treat data as a cost to minimize instead of a source of innovation. He traces his passion for analytics to teenage games of Strat-O-Matic baseball, where knowing the stats gave him an unfair advantage over the neighborhood. Brian Watson, a principal at CIO Clarities Advisors Company and a contributing co-author of Confessions of a Successful CIO, looks back to a period that began almost a year earlier, when nobody knew when it would be over, and at the tech companies emerging as trusted partners. Episodes close with Kelly inviting feedback and asking listeners to share the show with one person who would enjoy it. The result is frank, specific talk from people who run or advise on enterprise technology inside real organizations.

Made for: Suits a listener who works in or near enterprise IT leadership and wants frank, specific talk about data privacy, security, analytics and how technology teams connect to the rest of the business.

What sets it apart: It reaches past the CIO chair itself, putting sitting CIOs from Winnebago Industries and Symphony Care Network alongside chief innovation officers, an advisor to CIOs and a cybersecurity specialist. Its host also argues points of his own, such as his view that IT people who cannot speak business are bound to fail.

In their own words

State of the CIO features senior IT professionals from leading organizations across America. Talking points on the show include the role of the CIO in business transformation, innovative AI implementation, and consumer engagement as a path to growth. Tune in every week to hear insights from the leading lights of enterprise Information Technology.

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A pen test gets politely cross-examined, if you like your IT advice with an actual objection.

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  • to ask what API access costs before you sign a healthcare vendor contract
  • to hear why a security expert questions penetration tests before you book one
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Episode 45 - Privacy and Security Controls with Gabe GumbsApr 27, 2021

A practical leadership-level look at data privacy across cloud and machine-learning environments.

State of the CIO treats data privacy less as a specialist lane than as a leadership responsibility, with Gabe Gumbs, Chief Innovation Officer at Spirian, making the case that organizations cannot wait for perfect staffing or expertise before they move.

Episode 44 - Technology Transformations with Sri KoneruMar 30, 2021

A CIO makes the case that technology leadership starts with knowing the business deeply.

Sri, CIO of Winnebago Industries, frames technology leadership through the shape of his own career, from growing up in India and studying engineering to beginning as a software engineer and learning from Target's business-minded IT culture.

Episode 43 - Harnessing Your Ecosystem with Brian WatsonFeb 16, 2021

Brian Watson looks at how remote work, wider talent access, and unsettled technology outcomes are reshaping the CIO role.

Brian Watson brings an advisor's read on the CIO role at a moment when disruption has left more questions than settled answers. He treats technology leadership as hard to benchmark while companies are still sorting out which efficiency and productivity gains will endure, which…

Episode 42 - Data Analytics with Nathan TaylorJan 12, 2021

Nathan Taylor turns healthcare interoperability into a practical test of HL7 limits and API contract discipline.

Healthcare data is still hard to move cleanly, and Nathan Taylor keeps that problem grounded in operational reality. Speaking from his role as CIO of Symphony Care Network and from a career that moved through analytics into IT leadership, he describes the daily challenge of…

Episode 41 - Proactive and Reactive Cybersecurity with Dr. Eric ColeDec 29, 2020

Dr. Eric Cole makes a clear case for treating penetration testing as useful, but incomplete.

Cybersecurity is easy to picture as a dramatic break-in, but State of the CIO pushes past that image as Dan Kelly asks Dr. Eric Cole about his path into IT and cybersecurity, then moves into what penetration testing can and cannot prove.

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    Episode 45 - Privacy and Security Controls with Gabe Gumbs

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    Gabe Gumbs says security without privacy is possible, but privacy risk still remains.

    Apr 27, 2021·25m·1 clip
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    Episode 44 - Technology Transformations with Sri Koneru

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    Dan Kelly and Sri Koneru, CIO of Winnebago Industries, focus on customer journey mapping, “step zero,” and why technology should follow a defined business problem.

    Mar 30, 2021·27m·1 clip
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    Episode 43 - Harnessing Your Ecosystem with Brian Watson

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    Brian Watson and Dan Kelley focus on how CIOs moved from emergency remote work to the longer-term lessons of 2021, including speed, e-commerce, and partner ecosystems.

    Feb 16, 2021·30m·2 clips
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    Episode 42 - Data Analytics with Nathan Taylor

    Hidden gem

    Nathan Taylor says healthcare is moving from HL7 to APIs because “HL7” never truly standardized data.

    Jan 12, 2021·35m·2 clips
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    Episode 41 - Proactive and Reactive Cybersecurity with Dr. Eric Cole

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    Dan Kelly and Dr.

    Dec 29, 2020·36m·2 clips
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    Episode 40 - Agriculture & Artificial Intelligence: Panel Discussion From AgGateway 2020 Annual Conference

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    Recorded live at AgGateway's 2020 virtual conference, State of the CIO host Dan Kelly asks three ag technology leaders where AI stands in agriculture.

    Dec 15, 2020·41m·2 clips
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    Episode 39 - Business Intelligence Can Be a Game Changer with Mohit Sahgal

    Mohit Sahgal, managing principal and head of data engineering at EKI Digital, tells host Dan Kelly that organizations still spend 80% or more of their data effort on sourcing and co-locating data, which new technologies can cut to 10-20%.

    Dec 1, 2020·27m·1 clip
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    Episode 38 - Implementing Artificial Intelligence with Brian Weaver

    Brian Weaver, CEO of Torch.ai, tells host Dan Kelly that "there's not a lot of successful applications of AI" because of SaaS sprawl, weak data governance and security gaps.

    Nov 17, 2020·34m·2 clips
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    Episode 37 - Avoiding IT Failures with Dave Burrill

    Nov 3, 2020·1h
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    Episode 36 - Top-Notch Cybersecurity In Uncertain Times with Brian and Wes Gill

    Oct 20, 2020·36m
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    Episode 35 - Cloud Management with Kim Weins

    Oct 6, 2020·32m
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    Episode 34 - 6 Key Security Steps Companies Should Take Right Now with Sammy Basu

    Sep 22, 2020·36m
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    Episode 33 - The Importance of Cybersecurity to Protect Our Technology with Scott Howitt

    Sep 8, 2020·29m
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    Episode 32 - Data, AI, and ML with Patrick McClory

    Aug 25, 2020·45m
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    Episode 31 - Negotiating and Orchestrating Data with Tom Hasker

    Aug 11, 2020·40m
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    Episode 30 - Negotiating IT in Uncertain Times with Ralph Loura

    Jul 28, 2020·34m
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    Episode 29 - Negotiating IT Strategy with Jim Maholic

    Jun 16, 2020·29m
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    Episode 28 - Negotiating Big Data with Bill Schmarzo

    Host Dan Kelly interviews Chief Innovation Officer Bill Schmarzo about leveraging big data and analytics for innovation in enterprise IT.

    Jun 2, 2020·28m
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    Episode 27 - Why We Started State of the CIO: Listeners Questions Answered

    May 19, 2020·10m
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    Episode 26 - Understanding the CIO Leadership Transition

    May 5, 2020·36m
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    Episode 25 - The Next Generation CIO

    Apr 21, 2020·34m
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    Episode 24 - The Importance of Mobile-Ready Workforces Amid COVID-19

    Apr 7, 2020·39m
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    Episode 23 - Being a Change Catalyst Inside Organizations

    Mar 24, 2020·33m
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    Episode 22 - Controlling SaaS Spend: The Effective IT Contract Negotiation

    Mar 10, 2020·52m
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    Episode 21 - Technology in Higher Education with Helen Norris

    Host Dan Kelly interviews Helen Norris, VP and CIO of Chapman University, about her career in higher education IT and the evolving role of technology leaders.

    Feb 25, 2020·27m
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    Episode 20 - Divesting Technology Systems with Dennis Hodges

    Host Dan Kelly interviews CIO Dennis Hodges about his career and role at Intiva Products, discussing enterprise architecture and technology leadership.

    Feb 11, 2020·25m
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    Episode 19 - Maximizing Time Management with Tim Campos

    Jan 28, 2020·42m
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    Episode 18 - Cloud Storage in the Veterinarian Industry with Barb Blasko

    Jan 14, 2020·23m
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    Episode 17 - Thought Leadership in Digital Transformation with Jim Maclennan

    Dec 31, 2019·26m
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    Episode 16 - Preventing Cloud Spending Waste with Kim Weins

    Dec 17, 2019·25m
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    Episode 15 - Leveraging Technology in Business with Colin Campbell

    Dec 3, 2019·28m
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    Episode 14 - Understanding the Human Aspect in Leadership with Bard Papegaaij

    Nov 19, 2019·30m
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    Episode 13 - The Five-Step Playbook for Team Turnarounds with Shannon Gath

    Oct 8, 2019·26m
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    Episode 12 - Using Blockchain Technology in Higher Education With Feng Hou

    Oct 1, 2019·20m
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    Episode 11 - Future Business Planning With Chris Hahn

    Aug 12, 2019·19m
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    Episode 10 - Creating digital solutions to analogue problems with Jessica Miller

    Host Dan Kelly interviews IT director Jessica Miller about her career transition and role at Booster Enterprises.

    Aug 6, 2019·22m
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    Episode 09 - Ben Davis and the Importance of Digital Transformation

    Jul 30, 2019·14m
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    Salesforce – Negotiating and Finalizing the Deal

    Jul 9, 2019·17m
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    Salesforce - The Communication Plan

    Jul 2, 2019·36m
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    Salesforce - The Negotiation Plan

    Jun 24, 2019·23m
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    Salesforce - Prepping the Negotiation Plan

    Jun 17, 2019·11m
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    Salesforce - Understanding how Salesforce Negotiates

    Mar 21, 2018·21m
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    Salesforce - Yes, you can negotiate with Salesforce

    Mar 21, 2018·6m
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    Salesforce - How to build your Salesforce Roadmap

    Mar 21, 2018·9m