Shine Bright Like the Firmament

Madeline Shepley

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Catholic curiosity across science, story, and vocation.

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Shine Bright Like the Firmament is a warm interview show where Catholic faith meets practical, personal storytelling. Madeline Shepley talks with guests about hospital medicine, evolution, role-playing games, Mary, forgiveness, and the winding paths that shape vocation.

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About Shine Bright Like the Firmament

Shine Bright Like the Firmament is a Catholic interview show with an unusually wide field of attention. It begins in ordinary conversation. Madeline Shepley might open with the aurora, a quiet Monday, fall break, coffee-chat familiarity, or the small chaos of finally getting a guest scheduled. From there, the subject can move quickly but naturally. One episode follows Gabe Bouzilié through medicine, patient vulnerability, hospitalist schedules, long shifts, and the importance of seeing the body as an integrated whole. Another gives Donan Scholl room to explain Watchpoint, a role-playing game shaped by story, character classes, subclasses, armor, dodging, support abilities, and the design choices behind play styles. The show is comfortable with technical detail. It also keeps asking what a detail means for a life. Alex Cass’s conversation moves from STEM identity into conversion, Protestant background, Mary, the saints, cultural inheritance, in-person friendship, and the search for rootedness. Dan Keebler returns for a discussion of evolution and Catholic doctrine, especially the harder questions around human origins, original sin, Adam and Eve, and theological continuity. Brother Giovanni Orduz brings the show into more painful territory. His story touches Colombia, Venezuela, family, religious calling, grief, forgiveness, and the idea that mercy reaches even people who have done grave harm. The show does not polish these conversations into tidy lessons. It lets guests think aloud. That gives the episodes a lived-in texture: part biography, part catechetical reflection, part friend-to-friend curiosity. The Catholic framing is explicit, but the show’s method is rarely combative. It prefers patient questions, careful listening, and moments where a guest’s work or past becomes a way to talk about providence. Science is present through medicine, evolution, and STEM identity. Creativity is present through storytelling and game design. Vocation is present in nearly every thread, even when the conversation starts somewhere casual. The result is a show for listeners who like faith handled as something intellectually serious and personally intimate at the same time.

Made for: For listeners drawn to Catholic conversations that move between everyday life, intellectual questions, and personal testimony. It especially suits people interested in science, medicine, conversion stories, theology, and creative work.

What sets it apart: The show’s range is its strength: a hospital shift, a tabletop game system, Mary, evolution, and forgiveness can all belong in the same editorial world. Its interviews stay warm and specific rather than turning faith-and-science questions into slogans.

In their own words

Conversations with STEM professionals who are practicing Catholics to show that faith and science don't need to be mutually exclusive.

As heard by us

Based on 5 episodes we listened to · September 2026

Madeline Shepley makes Catholic belief legible through detailed conversations about conversion, science, work and the choices that shape a life.

Madeline Shepley builds conversations around the places Catholic belief meets a guest's work and personal history. Science remains a steady point of contact, but the format makes room for conversion stories, medicine and creative projects.

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Why you'd press play

Original sin and gunslinger subclasses share Madeline Shepley's table, if your curiosity has unusually good range.

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  • evolution and original sin discussed without treating either as the embarrassing relative at dinner
  • conversion stories where grief, forgiveness, Mary, and the Eucharist stay personal instead of becoming debate props
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Catholic faith and STEMmedicine and patient careevolution and original sinconversion and vocationMary and the saintsforgiveness and mercytabletop role-playing designfriendship and ordinary life

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Best episodes of Shine Bright Like the Firmament

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Living That Which is LifeApr 8, 2026

A warm interview that connects hospitalist work, patient care, and faith through everyday detail.

The episode moves between aurora sightings, weather, and the realities of hospitalist work, which gives it a lived-in, specific feel. The strongest stretch comes when Gabe lays out how patient care is organized across a 12-hour shift and why fewer handoffs are seen as better for…

WatchpointMar 25, 2026

A clear look at how a tabletop idea becomes a playable world.

The episode follows Watchpoint from a college role-playing game into a wider creative setting, with Madeline Shepley steering the discussion through the parts that give the system its shape: dodge versus armor, class identity, and the way subclasses define a character's place.

Touch Grass While Listening to This PodcastMar 11, 2026

A grounded conversion conversation that weaves together faith, culture, and personal history.

Shine Bright Like the Firmament traces Alex Cass's conversion story with a steady link between STEM curiosity and Catholic faith, bringing Mary, the Eucharist, and a mother's influence into the same arc.

Darwin and DoctrineFeb 25, 2026

A brief Catholic discussion of evolution, original sin, and the first humans.

This episode offers a compact Catholic discussion of evolution and human origins, with Madeline Shepley guiding the exchange and Dan Keebler answering from a theology-first angle.

"Hey, God. What's Next?"Mar 12, 2025

A patient conversation about conversion, grief, and the hard work of forgiveness.

Brother Giovanni Orduz gives a grounded account of conversion shaped by family, place, and Catholic practice. He traces a path from growing up between Colombia and Venezuela, through drifting from tradition as a teenager, and back toward faith through healing and change.

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Episodes

  1. 1

    Physical Presence

    Sep 23, 2026·51m
  2. 2

    Agent in His Radiance's Service (Howling Dark, Part 2)

    Sep 9, 2026·2h 4m
  3. 3

    God Wants All of You

    Aug 26, 2026·1h 9m
  4. 4

    Agent in His Radiance's Service (Howling Dark, Part 1)

    Aug 12, 2026·2h 3m
  5. 5

    Just Keep Swimming

    Jul 29, 2026·1h 32m
  6. 6

    Venturing from the Ivory Tower

    Jul 15, 2026·1h 13m
  7. 7

    The Bridge Connector

    Jul 1, 2026·58m
  8. 8

    Has Anyone Introduced You to Our Lord and Savior, Hadrian Marlowe? (Empire of Silence, Part 2)

    Jun 17, 2026·1h 31m
  9. 9

    Has Anyone Introduced You to Our Lord and Savior, Hadrian Marlowe? (Empire of Silence, Part 1)

    Jun 3, 2026·1h 12m
  10. 10

    Microcosm

    May 20, 2026·1h 44m
  11. 11

    A Printer's Choice

    May 6, 2026·1h
  12. 12

    Engineering Your Own Weirdness

    Apr 22, 2026·1h 9m
  13. 13

    Living That Which is Life

    Hidden gem

    Madeline Shepley opens with Gabe Bouzilie and the memory of an aurora.

    Apr 8, 2026·47m·3 clips
  14. 14

    Watchpoint

    Hidden gem

    Madeline Shepley sits down with Donan Scholl to talk about Watchpoint.

    Mar 25, 2026·47m·3 clips
  15. 15

    Touch Grass While Listening to This Podcast

    Hidden gem

    Madeline welcomes her friend Alex Cass for a warm conversation about faith, background, and the road toward conversion.

    Mar 11, 2026·51m·2 clips
  16. 16

    Darwin and Doctrine

    Hidden gem

    Madeline Shepley welcomes back Dan Keebler to talk about his new book on evolution.

    Feb 25, 2026·59m·3 clips
  17. 17

    The Holy Ghost in The Machine

    Feb 11, 2026·1h 16m
  18. 18

    The Making of Markmaker

    Jan 28, 2026·56m
  19. 19

    Consistency Instead of Contradiction

    Jan 14, 2026·1h 11m
  20. 20

    Tangents Are Features, Not Bugs

    Dec 31, 2025·1h 22m
  21. 21

    Not All Who Wonder Are Lost

    Dec 17, 2025·1h 11m
  22. 22

    God Made That

    Dec 3, 2025·1h 1m
  23. 23

    Join Us. We Have Community.

    Nov 19, 2025·1h 11m
  24. 24

    Making Lemonade out of Lemons

    Nov 5, 2025·1h 10m
  25. 25

    Focusing on What's Important

    Oct 23, 2025·1h 15m
  26. 26

    All Things Have Purpose

    Oct 8, 2025·54m
  27. 27

    You Can Do Hard Things

    Sep 24, 2025·1h
  28. 28

    A Tale of Two Thomases

    Sep 10, 2025·1h 15m
  29. 29

    Game of Favorites

    Aug 27, 2025·1h 26m
  30. 30

    A Multi-Leg Journey

    Aug 13, 2025·58m
  31. 31

    Down for the Detour

    Jul 30, 2025·50m
  32. 32

    Coming Into Community

    Jul 16, 2025·59m
  33. 33

    The Riddle of The Tongue-Stones

    Jul 2, 2025·55m
  34. 34

    I'll Make Him An Offer He Can't Refuse

    Jun 18, 2025·1h 19m
  35. 35

    Shine Bright Like The Firmament x The Work of Thy Hands

    Jun 4, 2025·31m
  36. 36

    Embracing Your Inner Dork

    May 21, 2025·1h 10m
  37. 37

    Doing What You Can

    May 7, 2025·48m
  38. 38

    Stories Under the Stars

    Apr 23, 2025·52m
  39. 39

    Between Earth and Sky

    Apr 9, 2025·58m
  40. 40

    Imago Dei Assembly

    Mar 26, 2025·1h 5m
  41. 41

    "Hey, God. What's Next?"

    Hidden gem

    Madeline Shepley talks with Brother Giovanni Orduz about his life, his faith, and the long process that brought him back through conversion and transformation.

    Mar 12, 2025·1h 34m·2 clips
  42. 42

    To Be The Joyful Unicorn

    Feb 26, 2025·54m
  43. 43

    An Unlikely Adventure

    Feb 12, 2025·1h 1m
  44. 44

    Spooky Action at A Closeness

    Jan 29, 2025·26m
  45. 45

    Soldier for God

    Jan 15, 2025·56m
  46. 46

    Not By Sight

    Jan 1, 2025·43m
  47. 47

    Memento Mori

    Dec 18, 2024·52m
  48. 48

    Risky Business

    Dec 4, 2024·1h 27m
  49. 49

    A Different Kind of Vocational School

    Nov 20, 2024·30m
  50. 50

    Rising to The Challenge

    Nov 6, 2024·55m
  51. 51

    Better Late Than Never

    Oct 23, 2024·1h 6m
  52. 52

    Over the Garden Wall

    Oct 9, 2024·54m
  53. 53

    God Amongst The Machinery

    Sep 25, 2024·1h 13m
  54. 54

    Know Your Body

    Sep 11, 2024·47m
  55. 55

    Don't Turn Your Brain Off

    Aug 28, 2024·1h 10m
  56. 56

    Don't Fear The Random Walk

    Aug 14, 2024·58m
  57. 57

    The Literature Tangent

    Jul 31, 2024·1h 34m
  58. 58

    Conversion is Constant

    Jul 17, 2024·1h 2m
  59. 59

    Tangents Are Welcome Here

    Jul 3, 2024·58m
  60. 60

    To Know God Better Is To Love God Better

    Jun 19, 2024·46m
  61. 61

    You Have To Know The Rules In Order To Break The Rules

    Jun 5, 2024·47m
  62. 62

    "Dear Jesus, It's Me, Stacy..."

    May 22, 2024·57m
  63. 63

    All Roads Lead to Home

    May 8, 2024·1h 2m
  64. 64

    More Than Just A Farmer

    Apr 24, 2024·39m
  65. 65

    People Are More Important Than Papers

    Apr 10, 2024·38m
  66. 66

    God Can Arrange Your Martyrdom

    Mar 27, 2024·52m
  67. 67

    Another Trip Down Memory Lane

    Mar 13, 2024·48m
  68. 68

    Two for The Price of One

    Feb 28, 2024·45m
  69. 69

    You're Mine Now

    Feb 14, 2024·1h 15m
  70. 70

    Spoiler Free Sci-Fi

    Jan 31, 2024·54m
  71. 71

    Called Home and Blessed

    Jan 17, 2024·34m
  72. 72

    A Canticle of Live Research

    Jan 3, 2024·57m
  73. 73

    Flourishing

    Dec 20, 2023·1h 23m
  74. 74

    A Spiritual Enemies to Lovers Arc

    Dec 6, 2023·56m
  75. 75

    A Steward of Hope and Light

    Nov 22, 2023·47m
  76. 76

    Mushrooms, Moral Compasses, and Mental Health

    Nov 8, 2023·1h 4m
  77. 77

    Always More to Discover

    Oct 25, 2023·1h 13m
  78. 78

    Rooted in Relationship

    Oct 10, 2023·52m
  79. 79

    Clarity and Conviction

    Sep 27, 2023·1h 11m
  80. 80

    That Sounds Like Fun

    Sep 13, 2023·52m
  81. 81

    These Are My People

    Aug 30, 2023·1h 26m
  82. 82

    Coming Full Circle

    Aug 16, 2023·50m
  83. 83

    Finding Your Own Motivation

    Aug 2, 2023·38m
  84. 84

    God Doesn't Waste Anything

    Jul 19, 2023·41m
  85. 85

    Purpose

    Jul 5, 2023·42m
  86. 86

    Rare Air (Part 2)

    Jun 21, 2023·52m
  87. 87

    God Always Gets The Last Laugh

    Jun 7, 2023·1h 11m
  88. 88

    Strange Connections

    May 24, 2023·1h 15m
  89. 89

    Making Sunshine Out of Hurricanes

    May 10, 2023·47m
  90. 90

    The One Where They Bond A Lot Over IU

    Apr 26, 2023·1h 2m
  91. 91

    Overturned Expectations

    Apr 12, 2023·39m
  92. 92

    The Language of Creation

    Mar 29, 2023·53m
  93. 93

    Unique and Universal

    Mar 15, 2023·56m
  94. 94

    Rare Air

    Mar 1, 2023·30m
  95. 95

    Perfect Love Casts Out Fear

    Feb 15, 2023·56m
  96. 96

    Open to the Path

    Feb 1, 2023·52m
  97. 97

    25 Catholic Scientists for 25 Years

    Jan 18, 2023·22m
  98. 98

    We Are Not Enemies

    Jan 4, 2023·34m
  99. 99

    Eye-Opening Experiences

    Dec 21, 2022·39m
  100. 100

    Physics Is Not Fear

    Dec 7, 2022·1h 16m
  101. 101

    Fully Alive (BONUS)

    Nov 26, 2022·1h 6m
  102. 102

    A Look Behind the Curtain

    Nov 24, 2022·38m
  103. 103

    Stars that Go Bump in the Night

    Nov 9, 2022·49m
  104. 104

    The Great Connector

    Oct 27, 2022·55m
  105. 105

    Education is Power

    Oct 12, 2022·50m
  106. 106

    Trust but Verify

    Sep 28, 2022·46m
  107. 107

    A Trip Down Memory Lane

    Sep 14, 2022·1h 19m
  108. 108

    Thinking Outside Paradigms

    Sep 1, 2022·47m
  109. 109

    Going Off On tan(x)'s

    Aug 17, 2022·1h 4m
  110. 110

    It's All Fun and Games

    Aug 3, 2022·1h 1m
  111. 111

    The Greatest Biologist

    Jul 20, 2022·1h 6m
  112. 112

    The Radiation of Joy and Beauty

    Jul 6, 2022·46m
  113. 113

    "Am I Smarter Than Jesus?" and Other Cosmic Questions We Ask Ourselves

    Jun 23, 2022·43m
  114. 114

    Welcome to the Firmament

    Jun 1, 2022·6m
  115. 115

    AGN, Mystery, and The Image of God

    Jun 1, 2022·39m