Seizing Freedom

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Black freedom, traced through archives and tested against today.

The gist

Seizing Freedom has two kinds of episode: documentary histories built from period writing and press accounts, and interviews with living writers and activists. Kidada Williams hosts, writes and produces it, following questions of liberation from Ida B. Wells and 1920s Harlem to police abolition and pandemic care.

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About Seizing Freedom

Seizing Freedom is a history show that insists on its sources. Kidada Williams hosts, writes and produces it as a production of VPM and Molten Heart, and she states its purpose plainly: to dig into archives for stories of how African Americans freed themselves during the Civil War and built new lives in Reconstruction and beyond. Freedom here is a broad idea. It takes in the press and activism, and also public health, nightlife and faith. The historical episodes are full of period voices read aloud. 'Reframing the Narrative?' starts with Ida B. Wells in the late winter of 1892 and quotes her admission that she had believed wealth, education and character would one day bring justice to all. The same episode includes a first-person account of Joseph Campbell, a prisoner accused of murdering a warden's wife and held in solitary, and of a narrator too disturbed by his treatment to eat dinner. 'Dethroning Disease' opens at a 1914 conference on Black health at Tuskegee Institute, where Booker T. Washington was among the speakers. Later it reads out strict sanitation instructions: scrub floors with lye, whitewash the walls, sun every room, clean the outhouses at schoolhouses and churches. 'Inside Harlem's Speakeasies' uses James Weldon Johnson's description of riding north through Manhattan into Black Harlem. It then follows Wilkins, whose place was frequented by Jack Johnson and who had reached kingpin status by 1924, while reformers called his business an obstruction to moral betterment. These episodes end the same way, naming the historians, archivists and librarians whose work made them possible and pointing to further reading at seizingfreedom.com. The interviews carry the questions into the present. Mariame Kaba describes abolition as a practice, informed by Marge Piercy's poem 'To Be of Use', and says safety has to be defined collectively. Saeed Jones, introduced as a writer, poet and social commentator, remembers learning to smile so he would seem less threatening, and describes white supremacy as the very atmosphere. The conversation with Julia Craven runs from her great-grandmother's Sunday cooking before church to going back for a mask to protect an elderly neighbor. Williams is more than a narrator. She says Kaba's work changed how she thinks about justice, and she opens the Jones conversation by describing her own exhaustion. The narrative episodes begin with advisories about graphic language and descriptions of violence. A listener who likes history built from documents, and wants to hear it tested against the present, gets both here.

Made for: Suits a listener who wants American history told through named people and period documents, and who is ready to hear that history carried into present-day arguments about policing, safety and care.

What sets it apart: It pairs source-heavy narrative episodes, which credit the historians and archivists behind them, with conversations with living writers and activists, so past and present sit side by side in one show. Its idea of freedom reaches past politics into health, nightlife, faith and how people present themselves.

In their own words

Highlighting true stories of Black people’s fight for liberation, progress and joy from the Civil War to the Civil Rights Movement and beyond. Seizing Freedom illustrates the myriad ways Black people have sought and defined their own freedom in spite of the monumental forces at work to keep them from it.

Why you'd press play

Ida B. Wells could barely eat over a prisoner's case; you hear what she did next.

Press play if you want

  • to follow Verna's move from Texas to Los Angeles through her own recollections
  • to weigh a Black health campaign's advice against the question of access to care
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Black freedom struggles from the Civil War onwardIda B. Wells and the power of the pressBlack public health historyHarlem in the 1920spolice and prison abolitionrace, identity and self-presentationcommunity care during COVIDarchival and primary sources

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Best episodes of Seizing Freedom

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Interview - Mariame KabaMay 17, 2022

A thoughtful, grounded episode on abolition, safety, and the everyday work of collective care.

Abolition is framed here as something lived and practiced, not just argued for from a distance. The episode links the 2020 calls to defund and abolish the police to a deeper history of Black advocacy against policing and prisons, with particular attention to Black women’s work.

Reframing the Narrative?May 10, 2022

Ida B. Wells confronts the limits of gradual progress through contested cases in Memphis and Joliet.

The episode finds its force in Ida B. Wells's break with any easy faith in gradual progress. It follows the conflict around People's Grocery in Memphis, where Thomas Moss owned the store, Calvin McDowell managed it, and Will Stewart worked as a clerk, and where the success of a…

Interview - Julia CravenMay 3, 2022

Julia Craven ties her great-grandmother's everyday wisdom to public health, vaccine trust, and care for neighbors.

Julia Craven's family history gives the episode its center of gravity. Her great-grandmother Mus comes through in Sunday meals, a yard she kept mowing into her 70s, and a view of wellness rooted in daily practice rather than a weekly ritual.

Dethroning DiseaseApr 26, 2022

A 1914 Tuskegee health campaign shows reform's reach, and its limits.

The episode centers on a 1914 gathering at Tuskegee Institute, where Black academics and intellectuals took up a public-health crisis marked by preventable deaths, widespread illness, and an African-American life expectancy of about 35 years. From there, it follows Booker T.

Interview - Saeed JonesApr 19, 2022

Saeed Jones reflects on masks, masculinity, the body, and the daily work of Black freedom.

Saeed Jones joins Seizing Freedom for a searching conversation about the daily work of rebuilding a self. He traces the masks he learned to wear at school, with friends, and in the suburbs, then turns to the fear projected onto his darker-complected college friend.

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Episodes

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    Interview - Mariame Kaba

    Hidden gem

    Maryam Kaba says safety is a social relation, not a thing, and she ties that claim to housing, health care, clean water, and community provision.

    May 17, 2022·42m·3 clips
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    Reframing the Narrative?

    Hidden gem

    ["Ida B.

    May 10, 2022·52m·3 clips
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    Interview - Julia Craven

    Hidden gem

    Seizing Freedom's Kidada Williams interviews Julia Craven about Black wellness, COVID-19, and the Great Resignation, with Craven repeatedly returning to the lessons of her great-grandmother Mus.

    May 3, 2022·35m·2 clips
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    Dethroning Disease

    Hidden gem

    Seizing Freedom's "Dethroning Disease" opens at a 1914 Tuskegee conference where Black academics heard that 45% of all deaths among Negroes were preventable and life expectancy for African Americans was about 35 years.

    Apr 26, 2022·48m·3 clips
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    Interview - Saeed Jones

    Hidden gem

    Seizing Freedom's interview with Saeed Jones turns on his claim that he has spent years rebuilding himself every day while thinking about Black masculinity.

    Apr 19, 2022·36m·3 clips
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    Inside Harlem's Speakeasies

    Hidden gem

    Seizing Freedom: Inside Harlem's Speakeasies examines how 1920s and 1930s Harlem combined vibrant nightlife with economic insecurity and racial barriers.

    Apr 12, 2022·38m·2 clips
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    Interview - Jamelle Bouie

    Hidden gem

    Seizing Freedom host Kadada Williams interviews New York Times columnist Jamelle Bouie about housing discrimination, Black wealth, and policy responses.

    Apr 5, 2022·34m·2 clips
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    The Land of Milk and Honey

    Hidden gem

    Seizing Freedom: “The Land of Milk and Honey” follows Verna Deckard Lewis-Williams and her family from Texas to Los Angeles amid racial violence, segregated travel, and housing restrictions.

    Mar 29, 2022·46m·3 clips
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    Recommended Listening: Home. Made.

    Hidden gem

    Michael Atkins describes becoming a Denver school custodian at 19 after the birth of his daughter, then pursuing teaching and school leadership despite lacking a father and initially lacking training.

    Mar 25, 2022·23m·1 clip
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    Interview - Paula Austin

    Hidden gem

    On Seizing Freedom, Kidada Williams interviews Boston University historian Paula Austin about Black childhood in Jim Crow Washington, D.C.

    Mar 22, 2022·28m·1 clip
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    Children of the Sun

    Mar 15, 2022·43m
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    Interview - Blair L.M. Kelley

    Mar 8, 2022·32m
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    Walk! The Streetcar Boycotts

    Mar 1, 2022·41m
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    Interview - Kinshasha Holman Conwill & Paul Gardullo

    Feb 22, 2022·43m
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    On The World's Stage

    Feb 15, 2022·42m
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    Interview - Adam Serwer

    Feb 8, 2022·32m
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    The Fight of the Century

    Feb 1, 2022·45m
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    Introducing Season 2 of Seizing Freedom

    Jan 25, 2022·4m
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    Introducing Toxic: The Britney Spears Story

    Jul 7, 2021·6m
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    Recommended Listening: 1865

    May 20, 2021·9m
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    A Heritage Unique In The Ages

    May 17, 2021·56m
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    Interview: Kate Masur

    May 10, 2021·48m
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    The Final Word On Liberty

    May 3, 2021·54m
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    Interview: Kelly Brown Douglas

    Apr 26, 2021·43m
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    Equal Children Of God

    Apr 19, 2021·1h 6m
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    Interview: Hilary Green

    Apr 12, 2021·51m
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    Truth Makes The Free Man

    Apr 5, 2021·1h 3m
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    Interview: Tera Hunter

    Mar 29, 2021·37m
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    They Can't Keep Me Out

    Mar 22, 2021·58m
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    Interview: Rhiannon Giddens

    Host Kidada speaks with musician Rhiannon Giddens about tracing Black history through music and the erased role of Black people in American music.

    Mar 15, 2021·44m
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    A New Joy Awaiting Me

    Mar 8, 2021·58m
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    Interview: Deborah Willis

    This episode explores what photographs of Black Civil War soldiers reveal about their lives, families, and visions of freedom, featuring historian Deborah Willis.

    Mar 1, 2021·32m
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    Reconstructing Family

    Feb 22, 2021·56m
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    Interview: Abigail Cooper

    An interview with historian Abigail Cooper about how Black refugees in Civil War camps seized freedom and built new lives.

    Feb 15, 2021·31m
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    A Bedrock For Freedom

    Feb 8, 2021·51m
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    Interview: Crystal Feimster

    This episode explores how historians tell the story of the Civil War and Reconstruction, focusing on African Americans' fight for freedom and the challenges of representing that history today.

    Feb 4, 2021·28m
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    Intro: Time For A New Story

    Feb 1, 2021·9m
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    Spotlight: Susie King Taylor

    Feb 1, 2021·13m
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    Spotlight: Ambrose Headen

    Feb 1, 2021·9m
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    A Powerful Black Hand

    Feb 1, 2021·59m
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    Spotlight: Cyntha Nickols

    Feb 1, 2021·11m
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    Seizing Freedom: Official Trailer

    Jan 18, 2021·3m