RIoT Underground

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Emerging tech after the buzzword phase.

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RIoT Underground brings entrepreneurs, technologists, and organization builders into practical conversations about emerging technology. Recent episodes move from industrial design and AI adoption to deep tech incubation, worker-safety analytics, IoT distribution, and entrepreneurship education.

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RIoT Underground is a technology conversation show focused on the people and organizations turning emerging tools into working businesses, products, and regional capacity. IoT remains part of its center of gravity, but the recent run shows a wider field: AI, industrial design, data analytics, deep tech, entrepreneurship education, workplace safety, and founder ecosystems. The show often begins with a light personal prompt. Then it settles into concrete operational questions. Mike Laut’s episode frames industrial design as more than software-era aesthetics, bringing craftsmanship, manufacturing, product value, and AI-enabled iteration into the same conversation. Don Shin’s conversation connects AI adoption to hiring, initiative, education, failure, and the changing value of credentials. Ryan Abel’s live episode puts culture beside code, asking how teams stay curious and capable as AI changes software work. Krista Covey’s episode brings deep tech into the language of incubators, jobs, investment, and return on effort. Bobby Shkolnikov’s SAS campus conversation puts IoT commercialization into camera systems, worker safety, customer networks, hardware choices, and partner ecosystems. Brian Bielawski’s episode makes distribution itself part of the story, explaining CalChip Connect’s place in the IoT market. Katie Gailes brings entrepreneurship into higher education and municipal context. Swathi Young and Ujjwala Kashkari bring the community side through the D.C. Emerging Technology Meetup Group and its business-user perspective on AI and machine learning. The show’s register is direct, curious, and founder-adjacent. It does not treat emerging technology as an abstract trend. It asks what happens when a tool has to survive procurement, culture, training, installation, sales, public investment, or a real customer environment. There is also a local and institutional layer, with RIoT’s nonprofit economic-development frame appearing in the show’s introductions and closings. The live-room moments give the conversations a civic texture. The virtual and studio episodes keep the tone practical. RIoT Underground works best when a listener wants the connective tissue around innovation: not only the invention, but the ecosystem that helps it become usable. It is a grounded guide to the business and community machinery behind IoT, AI, and adjacent emerging technologies.

Made for: Suits a listener who wants emerging technology discussed through products, organizations, partnerships, and economic development. It fits people interested in how AI, IoT, and deep tech move from idea to deployment.

What sets it apart: RIoT Underground stands apart by keeping hardware, data, startup support, education, and regional innovation in the same frame. Its conversations often treat technology as an ecosystem problem, not just a software or founder story.

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Welcome to RIoT Underground — the podcast that pulls back the curtain on the innovators transforming our world with disruptive technology. We talk with fearless founders, tech leaders, and changemakers about their journeys — the wins, the failures, and everything in between. Discover how they learn from mistakes, build meaningful careers, and lead with purpose. Produced by RIoT Studios, part of the nonprofit RIoT, which drives innovation through events, conferences, startup accelerators, programs, thought leadership, and more. Tune in, subscribe, and join the underground at riot.org.

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  • to hear Tom Snyder ask how software teams get time to learn AI at work
  • to weigh a founder's preference for self-starters against the price of a university credential
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V: The Power of Industrial Design in an AI World, LIVE with Mike Laut, Founder & CEO, Laut DesignSep 22, 2025

A live conversation about AI, industrial design, and why cheap objects can cost more than they save.

Industrial design gets a grounded AI-era defense in this live Riot Underground conversation, with the discipline framed as part art, part engineering, and part marketing.

IV: Adapting For Success As AI Reshapes Business, LIVE with Don Shin, Founder & CEO, CrossCommAug 25, 2025

A practical case for initiative, accountable AI use, and learning by doing.

Don Shin treats AI at work as less a technology story than a test of judgment. He is sharpest on the need to revise machine-made work, add a personal standard, and take responsibility for whatever finally gets used.

III: Culture vs Code, Rethinking Strategy & Leadership in the AI Era, LIVE with Ryan Abel, Managing Partner, Atomic ObjectJul 28, 2025

Ryan treats AI adoption as a culture question, where curiosity and time matter as much as the tools.

RIoT Underground follows Tom Snyder and Ryan in a live discussion about what AI is doing to the everyday work and culture of a software organization.

II: Breaking Barriers & Building Deep Tech, LIVE with Krista Covey, President & CEO, First Flight Venture CenterMay 1, 2025

A live conversation on how deep-tech incubation turns long timelines into jobs, ROI, and regional growth.

Deep tech does not usually fit neatly inside an election-cycle timeline, and Riot Underground's live conversation with Krista Covey keeps that longer view in focus.

I: Smart Sight, Safe Site - Video Analytics for Injury Prevention with Bobby Shkolnikov, Principal IoT Commercialization, SASJan 13, 2025

A practical review of computer vision, worker safety, and the partnerships needed to make deployment work.

Riot Underground keeps worker safety at the center of a grounded technology discussion, following how SAS uses computer vision with existing video management systems to make monitoring more proactive.

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    V: The Power of Industrial Design in an AI World, LIVE with Mike Laut, Founder & CEO, Laut Design

    Hidden gem

    RIoT Underground talks with Mike Laut of Laut Design about industrial design, AI, and why his firm says it had its best year ever while AI was supposed to "steal our lunch money." The host says he is a mechanical engineer with a love of hardware, and Mike says industrial design blends art, engineering, and marketing from a 22-person practice that started in a crappy NC State apartment and a two-car garage.

    Sep 22, 2025·55m·3 clips
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    IV: Adapting For Success As AI Reshapes Business, LIVE with Don Shin, Founder & CEO, CrossComm

    Hidden gem

    ["RIoT Underground's live Raleigh Founded recording with Don Shin, founder and CEO of CrossCom, opens with a casting question that leads him to say Christopher Reeve and Superman shaped his early sense of heroism.", "Shin says CrossCom started about 27 years ago in a Duke University dorm building websites on Netscape, then moved through mobile apps, AR/VR, edge computing, IoT, and LLM-powered features.", "He argues that AI is 'almost like the end game of custom software development' because website work became commoditized, and he says every serious business he meets is already treating AI as unavoidable.", "The discussion turns practical on adoption, with Shin saying leadership must become fluent in AI, prompt engineering is becoming baseline literacy, and AI agents should first remove repetitive office work."]

    Aug 25, 2025·1h 5m·4 clips
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    III: Culture vs Code, Rethinking Strategy & Leadership in the AI Era, LIVE with Ryan Abel, Managing Partner, Atomic Object

    Hidden gem

    Ryan Abel tells Tom Snyder that AI is still in "infancy," while current tools like Cursor, Figma, and meeting capture mostly improve speed rather than replace judgment.

    Jul 28, 2025·57m·4 clips
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    II: Breaking Barriers & Building Deep Tech, LIVE with Krista Covey, President & CEO, First Flight Venture Center

    Hidden gem

    RIoT Underground's live episode features Krista Covey, president and CEO of First Flight Venture Center, on deep tech, AI, and startup funding in North Carolina.

    May 1, 2025·58m·5 clips
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    I: Smart Sight, Safe Site - Video Analytics for Injury Prevention with Bobby Shkolnikov, Principal IoT Commercialization, SAS

    Hidden gem

    Bobby Skolnikoff of SAS says computer vision and existing security cameras can catch lockout/tagout violations before a conveyor belt injures a worker.

    Jan 13, 2025·25m·2 clips
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    V: Growing Innovation in Eastern NC with Stefanie Keen & Brittany Smith, City of Wilson, NC

    May 22, 2024·26m
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    IV: Not Your Parent's Farm or Bluetooth with Clay Hine, Business Development Manager at Nordic Semiconductor

    May 6, 2024·33m
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    III: Breaking Bureaucracy, Unconventional Paths to Government Innovation with the Information Technology team at the Town of Cary, NC

    Apr 22, 2024·31m
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    II: Navigating Change, The Value Driven Pivot with Marcus Aman, Founder & CEO of Bayley

    Apr 8, 2024·25m
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    I: 10 Years of Smart City Evolution with Rich Erb, Executive Director at TechConnect

    Feb 23, 2024·27m
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    XV: RoGO's Vision of Saving Lives through Technology Innovation with Rod Goossen

    Nov 1, 2023·25m
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    XIV: A New Era of Emergency Response with Tony Sammarco, Director of Technology Strategy at Device Solutions

    Sep 5, 2023·31m
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    XIII: Innovation and Academia, SKEMA's Unique Approach to International Education with Thomas Ragot

    Aug 14, 2023·19m
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    XII: Sustainable Agriculture and the Power of Plasma Technology with John Ireland of NTP Technologies

    Aug 4, 2023·27m
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    XI: The Transformation of Smart Agriculture and Asset Tracking with Clay Hine, Business Development Manager at Nordic Semiconductor

    Jul 18, 2023·39m
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    X: Navigating the Future of Building a Skilled Workforce and Embracing Change with Seth Berman, CEO of Instantiations

    Jun 28, 2023·33m
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    IX: Diversity in Tech and the Power of AI with Stefan Youngblood

    May 26, 2023·33m
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    VIII: Smart City Innovations with Richard Erb Executive Director of TechConnect

    Apr 21, 2023·37m
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    VII: Harnessing Tech to Grow Business with John Petitte and Jason Farrell at Amplifi Labs

    Apr 10, 2023·39m
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    V: Smart Government with Jonathan Levitt, Vice President of Growth at Cocoflo

    Mar 22, 2023·29m
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    VI: New Technology Standards in Smart Homes and Building Management with Jesus Arias of KNX Association

    Mar 2, 2023·28m
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    IV: Open Source 101 with Todd Lewis, Founder of All Things Open

    Feb 23, 2023·28m
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    II: Engaging at the IoT Evolution Conference with Carl Ford, CEO of Crossfire Media

    Jan 25, 2023·31m
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    III: Optimizing Wireless Protocols & Communication Networks with Phil Beecher, President & CEO of the Wi-SUN Alliance

    Jan 25, 2023·31m
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    I: Leveraging Data in Successful IoT Ecosystem Partnerships with Josh Becker, Sr. Global Director & Head of IoT Commercial at SAS

    Dec 19, 2022·30m
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    XIV: Taking data and making it useful with Trish Geloso, CEO of Lifescale Analytics

    Jun 6, 2022·24m
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    XII: Evolving the IoT Industry with Kevin Taylor, Development Manager in Smart Cities at Axis Communications

    May 12, 2022·31m
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    XII: Designing the Future of Antennas & RF Integration with Tadd Scarpelli, Founder of Field Theory

    Apr 14, 2022·23m
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    XI: Creating the Smart City Movement with Nicolette Reyhani, Director of Sales and Marketing for Cocoflo

    Mar 31, 2022·22m
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    X: Getting Ready for IoT Evolution with Moe Nagle, Editorial Director for IoT Evolution, and Carl Ford, CEO of Crossfire Media

    Mar 16, 2022·24m
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    IX: Pushing the Boundaries of Autonomous Systems with John Breitenbach, Regional FAE Manager at Real Time Innovations (RTI)

    Mar 2, 2022·23m
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    VIII: Integrating Emerging Tech Innovations into Government with Sindhu Menon, Chief Information Officer at City of Raleigh

    Feb 18, 2022·34m
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    VII: Understanding the Legal Environment of Intellectual Property with Letao Qin, Intellectual Property Partner at Rimon Law

    Feb 1, 2022·36m
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    VI: Leveraging Real Time Data Responses for Success with Zach Jory, Director of Enterprise Marketing, and Brandon Templeton, Strategic Partnerships lead, of Axon

    Jan 20, 2022·32m
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    V: Utilizing Emerging Tech for Community Growth with John Holden, Director of Economic Development & Tourism for Stafford County

    Jan 5, 2022·34m
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    IV: Maximizing customer value from data with Oliver Schabenberger, Chief Innovation Officer of SingleStore

    Dec 22, 2021·39m
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    III: How to Bring Innovative Products to Market with Vina Kerai, Telecommunications Certification Manager at Nemko

    Nov 22, 2021·34m
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    II: Building IoT Driven Solutions in the Data Economy with Brian Bielawski, VP of Sales at Calchip Connect

    An interview with Brian Bielewski, VP of Sales at CalChip Connect, discussing IoT distribution and the company's evolution.

    Nov 12, 2021·40m
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    I: Utilizing data's full potential with Jesús Centeno, Chief of Staff & Innovation Strategy at TIBCO

    Oct 7, 2021·25m
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    XXIII: Integrating Entrepreneurship in Higher Education with Katie Gailes, Director of Entrepreneurship at Wake Technical Community College

    Host Tom Snyder interviews Katie Gales, Director of Entrepreneurship at Wake Tech, about her work and a fun casting question.

    May 11, 2021·35m
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    XXII: Disrupting the World through Emerging Tech with Swathi Young and Ujjwala Kashkari, founders of DC Emerging Tech Group

    Host Tom Snyder interviews the founders of the D.C.

    Mar 24, 2021·39m
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    XXI: Embracing Data Driven Solutions

    Mar 11, 2021·37m
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    XX: Building a Diverse Future in Tech with Kurt Merriweather, Head of Products at the Diversity Movement

    Host Tom Snyder interviews Kurt Merriweather about the intersection of technology, innovation, and equity, starting with a fun casting question.

    Feb 19, 2021·35m
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    XIX: Creating a Safer & Healthier World with IoT

    Host Tom Snyder interviews founders of two tech startups, Slider and TrackIt, about their innovative products and entrepreneurial journeys.

    Feb 10, 2021·33m
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    XVIII: Leaning in to COVID Market Changes

    Jan 27, 2021·41m
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    XVII: Entering the Data Era with Timothy Humphrey, Vice President, Chief Data Office at IBM

    Jan 14, 2021·28m
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    XVI: IoT Innovation in Government with Nicole Raimundo, the Chief Information Officer for the Town of Cary

    Host Tom Snyder interviews Nicole Raimondo, CIO of the Town of Cary, about their journey in adopting smart city technology and improving municipal services.

    Dec 30, 2020·25m
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    XV: Achieving Success in Technological Entrepreneurship with Scot Wingo, Founder and CEO of Spiffy

    Host Tom Snyder interviews Scott Wingo, founder and CEO of Spiffy, about his entrepreneurial journey and disruptive technology.

    Dec 16, 2020·34m
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    XIV: How Technology is Upping the Game with Dr. Jen Welter, Professional Football Coach, and Keith Smart, NBA Basketball Coach

    Dec 2, 2020·39m
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    XIII: Bridging the Digital Divide with Jess George, Government and Community Affairs Manager at Google Fiber

    Host Tom Snyder interviews Jess George, Government and Community Affairs Manager at Google Fiber, about her work and the impact of disruptive technology.

    Nov 18, 2020·30m