Radical Sacred

Jenny Misslin and Phillip Dieke

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Rooted conversations for sacred, earthly faith.

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Radical Sacred moves slowly and attentively through faith, nature, embodiment, and the ordinary moments that begin to feel holy. Its guest-led conversations pair poems, personal searching, and Christian language with questions about reciprocity, grief, love, and right relationship.

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About Radical Sacred

Radical Sacred is a contemplative interview show shaped by Christian spirituality, ecological imagination, poetry, and intimate conversation. It moves at a humane pace. Rather than chasing neat answers, it lingers with questions about rootedness, grief, reciprocity, love, justice, and the sacredness of ordinary life. Episodes often open with poetry, and those openings are not ornamental. They give the conversation a threshold, inviting the listener into a field of feeling before the guest begins to speak. Mary Oliver, Bell Hooks, Assata Shakur, Joy Sullivan, Reverend William Holmes Borders Sr., and Rosemerry Wahtola Trommer appear as part of the show’s living vocabulary. The result is earthy and prayerful without becoming slick. Its Christianity is present, but the show’s curiosity keeps widening outward toward land, bodies, online kinship, art, ecology, shalom, and the mystery of connection. Conversations with people such as Rev. Dr. Shidely Smith, David Dalt, Christine Tracy, Lisa Sharon Harper, and Rosemerry Wahtola Trommer show a taste for guests who can speak from lived conviction rather than polished certainty. The show is especially strong when a planned question gives way to surprise. It lets the river bend. That openness matters. Radical Sacred does not treat spirituality as escape from the world; it treats it as a way of entering the world more honestly. Grief becomes a teacher. Poetry becomes practice. Shalom becomes a vision of right relationship rather than private calm. Nature is not backdrop, but kin, guide, and moral witness. The conversations can become grave, especially around loss, injustice, shame, domination, and ecological harm. Still, the tone remains companionable. Radical Sacred is best for listeners who want spiritually serious talk that can hold ache and wonder in the same breath.

Made for: For listeners drawn to contemplative Christian spirituality, poetry, nature, and thoughtful interviews about living with tenderness and moral attention. It will especially suit people who prefer spacious, reflective conversation over quick doctrine or polished self-help.

What sets it apart: Radical Sacred stands apart by letting poetry, nature, and guest-led surprise shape the conversation. Its conversations feel less like a lesson plan and more like shared spiritual attention unfolding in real time.

In their own words

Remember, you are on sacred ground. Stay rooted.For two years Jenny Misslin and Rev. Phil Dieke have been contemplating a podcast. An opportunity to discuss spirituality, nature, community, and the interconnectedness of it all. All things they love, are very anxious about, and eager to explore. Radical, defined as "the relating to the fundamental nature of something." This term can be divisive, but to Jenny and Phil it is an invitation to connect back to the divine goodness, the sacred, at the core of all creation. Radical Sacred is an invitation to join them in curiosity as they explore...

As heard by us

Based on 6 episodes we listened to · September 2026

Radical Sacred pairs poetry and open-ended conversation to connect Christian spirituality with ecological responsibility, justice, grief, and the search for meaning.

Radical Sacred begins from attention: Phil Dickey and Jenny Mislin often bring poetry into the room before settling into generous guest conversations about faith, nature, grief, justice, and human connection.

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Why you'd press play

Phil and Jenny's forest conversation lets your sense of wonder survive a fact-check.

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  • to hear poetry read aloud, then follow the conversation into art and heartbreak
  • to think about shalom as justice between people, beyond a feeling of private peace
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Best episodes of Radical Sacred

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Cheers to 100 Episodes of Staying Rooted!Apr 15, 2026

A reflective conversation about roots, friendship, and the value of being surprised by where the discussion goes.

Radical Sacred centers spirituality, nature, and connection, and the conversation settles into open questions, careful listening, and a steady openness to surprise.

Christine Tracy on Just Trust Life: A Journey with Teilhard de ChardinMar 11, 2026

Christine Tracy connects Teilhard's noosphere to grief, sobriety, motherhood, and the sacredness of ordinary life.

Christine Tracy's visit to "Just Trust Life" brings Teilhard's thought down to the scale of lived experience: grief, sobriety, motherhood, fear for a son in law enforcement, and the fragile belief that can keep someone moving through suffering.

The Quest for Shalom: A Conversation with Lisa Sharon HarperMar 4, 2026

A thoughtful take on shalom as relational justice, not just peace.

Radical Sacred presents Lisa Sharon Harper's visit as a study in shalom that reaches past simple peace of mind and into truth, integrity, reciprocity, equity, and justice across God, self, gender, family, and creation.

Rosemerry Wahtola Trommer on the Reciprocity of PoetryFeb 25, 2026

Poetry, heartbreak, and staying open.

Rosemary Watola Tromer keeps the focus on heartbreak, embodiment, and the work of staying open. The poem moves from fortresses coming down to a body that softens, grows present, and listens for goodness in other people and in herself.

Liza Rankow on Soul Medicine for a Fractured WorldFeb 18, 2026

A reflective conversation about how to meet pain with care, justice, and steadiness.

Radical Sacred spends this episode with Liza Rankow in a conversation about what to do once pain has already arrived. It does not try to tidy up grief, diagnosis, loss, or violence.

How to Love a Forest with Ethan TapperJan 7, 2026

A reflective forest conversation that balances wonder with correction and keeps love, loss, and responsibility in view.

This Radical Sacred episode uses Mary Oliver's Blackwater Woods as a frame for a conversation about love, loss, and responsibility, with Ethan Tapper helping shift it from reverence toward a more exact view of forests.

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Episodes

  1. 1

    An Introduction to Season 4 - Nurture

    Oct 21, 2026·43m
  2. 2

    Special Episode with: Kelly Slaven, Jessica Brazeal, & Hillary Owen - Men and the Will to Change

    Oct 14, 2026·57m
  3. 3

    Doug Pagitt on July 4th, Patriotism, and the Common Good

    Doug Pagitt questions whether “America” means land, government, or ideals in Radical Sacred’s July 4th conversation.

    Jul 4, 2026·1h 9m·2 clips
  4. 4

    Season 3 Finale - Meandering and Meaning Making

    Jul 1, 2026·58m
  5. 5

    Walking the Path of Creativity with (Creative) Kate Thomas

    Jun 24, 2026·52m
  6. 6

    Rev. William H. Lamar on Ancestors, Stories, and Living Resurrection

    Jun 21, 2026·1h 12m
  7. 7

    Mary Fontana on Strangers in the Province of Joy

    Jun 17, 2026·1h 2m
  8. 8

    Encountering Henri Nouwen with Stephen Lazarus

    Jun 10, 2026·56m
  9. 9

    Paldrom Collins on Girl in a Box

    Jun 3, 2026·54m
  10. 10

    Day Schildkret on Morning Altars and the Importance of Ritual

    May 27, 2026·52m
  11. 11

    Erica Smith on the Purity Culture Recovery Guide

    May 20, 2026·58m
  12. 12

    Traumatized Church with Scot McKnight and Adrienne Gibson

    May 13, 2026·52m
  13. 13

    Victoria Loorz and Valerie Luna Serrels on Sacred Conversations

    May 6, 2026·1h 4m
  14. 14

    Everything is a Story with Kaitlin Curtice

    Apr 29, 2026·57m
  15. 15

    Dr. Andrea Adams on Hopecology

    Apr 22, 2026·1h 8m
  16. 16

    Cheers to 100 Episodes of Staying Rooted!

    Hidden gem

    Radical Sacred centers spirituality, nature, and connection.

    Apr 15, 2026·1h 4m·4 clips
  17. 17

    Liberative Ecology with Holy Wisdom Monastery

    This episode explores the intersection of spirituality and ecology through the lens of Holy Wisdom Monastery, framed by Mary Oliver's poem about living in deeper harmony with nature.

    Apr 8, 2026·1h 3m
  18. 18

    Rev. Dr. Shively Smith on the Wisdom of Howard Thurman

    This episode features an interview with Rev.

    Apr 1, 2026·1h 2m
  19. 19

    Moving in the World with the Intention to Love with David Dault

    This episode features an interview with David Dault, a writer and host of 'Things Not Seen', exploring themes of spirituality, love, and faith in culture.

    Mar 25, 2026·1h 8m
  20. 20

    Jim Keat on the Intimacy of Online Connections

    This episode explores the intimacy of online connections through a spiritual lens, featuring hosts Phil Dickey and Jenny Mislen discussing spirituality, nature, and sacred roots.

    Mar 18, 2026·53m
  21. 21

    Christine Tracy on Just Trust Life: A Journey with Teilhard de Chardin

    Radical Sacred speaks with Christine Tracy, a writer, journalist, rhetorician, and grandmother of four, about her book Just Trust Life: A Journey with Teilhard de Chardin.

    Mar 11, 2026·58m·4 clips
  22. 22

    The Quest for Shalom: A Conversation with Lisa Sharon Harper

    Hidden gem

    Radical Sacred opens with I Am Somebody and settles into a conversation with Lisa Sharon Harper about shalom.

    Mar 4, 2026·1h 10m·5 clips
  23. 23

    Rosemerry Wahtola Trommer on the Reciprocity of Poetry

    Hidden gem

    Radical Sacred welcomes Rosemary Watola Tromer into a conversation about poetry as a way of staying human.

    Feb 25, 2026·1h 8m·4 clips
  24. 24

    Liza Rankow on Soul Medicine for a Fractured World

    Hidden gem

    Radical Sacred opens with an Ash Wednesday note and a Lent invitation.

    Feb 18, 2026·1h 2m·4 clips
  25. 25

    David Hayward is the Naked Pastor

    Feb 11, 2026·1h 14m
  26. 26

    Wes Ellis and Abiding in Amen

    Feb 4, 2026·55m
  27. 27

    Finding Awe Through Creative Flow with the Seryn

    Jan 28, 2026·1h 20m
  28. 28

    Grace Ji-Sun Kim on Earthbound: God at the Intersection of Climate and Justice

    Jan 21, 2026·33m
  29. 29

    Becoming Kin with Patty Krawec

    Jan 14, 2026·50m
  30. 30

    How to Love a Forest with Ethan Tapper

    Hidden gem

    Mary Oliver sets the frame.

    Jan 7, 2026·57m·3 clips
  31. 31

    A Year in Reflection and Cheers to a New Year

    Dec 31, 2025·57m
  32. 32

    Reciprocal Rhythms: Poetry and the Dance of Chaos with Padraig O' Tuama

    Dec 24, 2025·57m
  33. 33

    Julia Postema and Jeremiah Gibson on Reciprocity and Sex

    Dec 17, 2025·1h 2m
  34. 34

    Mike Whang and the Reciprocity of Liturgy

    Dec 10, 2025·50m
  35. 35

    Enchantment and Dragonflies with Brooke Williams

    Dec 3, 2025·1h 8m
  36. 36

    Beth Norcross and Leah Rampy on Discovering the Spiritual Wisdom of Trees

    Nov 26, 2025·1h 3m
  37. 37

    Reciprocity and Flow with Melissa Fritchle

    Nov 19, 2025·58m
  38. 38

    Reciprocity is at the Heart of Parrott Creek

    Nov 12, 2025·55m
  39. 39

    Kenneth McIntosh on the Reciprocity of Interspirituality

    Nov 5, 2025·1h 3m
  40. 40

    Jarod K. Anderson is the Cryptonaturalist

    Oct 29, 2025·56m
  41. 41

    Nature's Healing Touch: Embracing Terra Divina

    Oct 22, 2025·28m
  42. 42

    JD Stillwater is a (Spiritual) Science Ambassador

    Oct 15, 2025·1h 9m
  43. 43

    Season 3 Introduction: Love & Reciprocity - Recorded Live from the Wild Goose Festival

    Oct 8, 2025·29m
  44. 44

    Rev. Zach Lambert's Public Theology from the Heart of Texas

    Jul 16, 2025·50m
  45. 45

    Pilgrimage to Peace with Colleen Moore

    Jul 9, 2025·49m
  46. 46

    Wes Granberg-Michaelson Reshapes Our Definitions of Pilgrimage

    Jun 25, 2025·1h
  47. 47

    Walking Together, Apart

    Jun 18, 2025·45m
  48. 48

    Carolyn Whitney-Brown's Journey with Henri Nouwen

    This episode features an interview with Carolyn Whitney-Brown about her book on Henri Nouwen, exploring spirituality through poetry and mythology.

    Jun 11, 2025·46m
  49. 49

    Honest Endings, Gilead, and Easter Wrestling with Rev. Rebecca Anderson and Rev. Vince Amlin

    Jun 4, 2025·45m
  50. 50

    The Intersection of Science and Spirituality Through the Life of Pierre Teilhard de Chardin

    May 28, 2025·53m
  51. 51

    Chelan Harkin and the Ecstatic Path

    May 21, 2025·53m
  52. 52

    Dr. Tamice Spencer-Helms is a Social Alchemist and Lover of Trees

    May 14, 2025·53m
  53. 53

    Bill Holston Believes in Safe Housing for All

    May 7, 2025·1h
  54. 54

    Rev. Tim Clifford Invites Us to Reengage Joy

    Apr 30, 2025·42m
  55. 55

    Pilgrimage with Pegasus

    Apr 23, 2025·1h
  56. 56

    BONUS - Easter Vigil

    Apr 19, 2025·36m
  57. 57

    Church of the Wild Field Guide Conversation with Victoria Loorz and Valerie Luna Serrels

    Apr 16, 2025·1h 2m
  58. 58

    Hunter Mobley on the Enneagram and Contemplation: The Journey Back to Who You Are

    Apr 9, 2025·44m
  59. 59

    John Philip Newell on St. Brigid and Finding the Address of our Hearts

    Apr 2, 2025·1h
  60. 60

    Journey to Building an Inclusive Future with Mary Jo Schnell

    Mar 26, 2025·1h 12m
  61. 61

    Rev. Jeremy Steele and the Pilgrimage of a Skeptic

    Mar 19, 2025·49m
  62. 62

    Melissa Fritchle’s Journey into Conscious Sex

    Mar 12, 2025·54m
  63. 63

    Beyond Data into Depth with Andrew Wermelskirchen

    The host introduces the podcast Radical Sacred, shares a poetic reading by Padraig Otuma, and warmly welcomes guest Andrew Wermelskirchen (nicknamed Worm), highlighting their long-standing friendship since he was 17.

    Mar 5, 2025·55m
  64. 64

    Feeling Your Way Through Grief with Missy Buchanan

    This episode features an interview with Missy Buchanan, a United Methodist author and speaker, discussing grief, faith, and her compassionate work with elderly church members.

    Feb 26, 2025·47m
  65. 65

    Pilgrimage for Nerds with Rev. Nathan Webb

    This episode features Reverend Nathan Webb discussing his digital-first approach to ministry and pilgrimage through Checkpoint Church and the Fidgetal Fellows fellowship.

    Feb 19, 2025·56m
  66. 66

    Walking Brigid's Way with Dr. Karen Ward

    Feb 12, 2025·50m
  67. 67

    Where We’re From and What We’re Rooted In

    Feb 5, 2025·46m
  68. 68

    The Allurement of Nature: A Spiritual Journey with Victoria Loorz

    Jan 29, 2025·1h 2m
  69. 69

    Rooted in a Future for Good: Inauguration Episode with Neil Moseley

    Jan 20, 2025·59m
  70. 70

    Nathan Shultz on the Wisdom of Wild Places

    Jan 15, 2025·45m
  71. 71

    Carl McColman Invites Us into Mystery

    Jan 8, 2025·1h 5m
  72. 72

    Cheers to an Enchanting New Year

    Jan 1, 2025·34m
  73. 73

    Y'all Want to See a Fresh Baby?

    Dec 25, 2024·28m
  74. 74

    Winter Solstice and the Pilgrimage of the Firefly

    Dec 18, 2024·43m
  75. 75

    Pilgrimage into Storytelling with Kim Powers

    Dec 11, 2024·52m
  76. 76

    Pilgrimage Can Be a Real Trip with Rev. Kerra English

    Dec 4, 2024·44m
  77. 77

    Keep Your Fork with Rev. Ashley Anne Sipe

    Nov 27, 2024·48m
  78. 78

    Pilgrimage in the Prepositions

    Nov 20, 2024·41m
  79. 79

    The Journey from Fiction to Non-Fiction with Rob Bell

    Nov 13, 2024·1h 8m
  80. 80

    From Scotland to Home: Bridging Pilgrimage Experiences with Rev. Alexa Eisenbarth

    Nov 6, 2024·1h 2m
  81. 81

    Pilgrimage Begins with The Door

    Oct 30, 2024·31m
  82. 82

    The Journey to Integration using Internal Family Systems with Hillary Owen

    Oct 23, 2024·1h 2m
  83. 83

    Ty Pierce's Pilgrimage Journey on the Pacific Crest Trail

    Oct 16, 2024·49m
  84. 84

    Jenny's Gulf Coast Pilgrimage

    Oct 9, 2024·34m
  85. 85

    Pilgrimage to self, and each other, with Kelly and Jess

    Oct 2, 2024·55m
  86. 86

    Pilgrimage with Karen Couch - It's Your Camino

    Sep 25, 2024·49m
  87. 87

    The Pilgrimage of Labyrinth with Rev. Cindy Serio

    Sep 18, 2024·50m
  88. 88

    Rev. Todd Seelau's Pilgrimage With and Beyond the Church

    Sep 11, 2024·1h 11m
  89. 89

    The Power of Pilgrimage: An Introduction to Season Two's Theme

    Sep 4, 2024·37m
  90. 90

    Father's Day Special

    Jun 16, 2024·32m
  91. 91

    A Time to Reflect...

    May 29, 2024·41m
  92. 92

    Transformation over Information: A Discussion on Palestine, Israel, Curiosity, and Concern

    May 22, 2024·54m
  93. 93

    Exploring the Complexities of Grief with Hillary Owen

    May 15, 2024·1h 12m
  94. 94

    Purity Culture... Again (Because it's that bad!)

    May 8, 2024·46m
  95. 95

    Attachment Styles with Hillary Owen

    May 1, 2024·1h 4m
  96. 96

    Queer Theology and UMC General Conference with Jenny Bates

    Apr 24, 2024·1h
  97. 97

    Transcend and Include with Marcus Jones

    Apr 17, 2024·41m
  98. 98

    Tattooing as Sacred Practice with Stephanie Adelina

    Apr 10, 2024·1h 1m
  99. 99

    Purity Culture with Jessica Brazeal

    Apr 3, 2024·39m
  100. 100

    Enneagram - Dependent Stance (1's, 2's, and 6's)

    Mar 27, 2024·47m
  101. 101

    Enneagram - Aggressive Stance (3s, 7s, 8s)

    Mar 20, 2024·49m
  102. 102

    Enneagram Introduction and Withdrawing Numbers (aka Jenny and Phil)

    Mar 13, 2024·1h 14m
  103. 103

    Divine Animism - A Plushier, Spongier Way of Being

    Mar 6, 2024·51m
  104. 104

    The Sacred Masculine - A Follow Up to The Divine Feminine

    Feb 28, 2024·1h 1m
  105. 105

    The Divine Feminine

    Feb 21, 2024·36m
  106. 106

    Is Your Heart Strangely Warmed?

    Feb 14, 2024·57m
  107. 107

    Ancestors with Rev. William H. Lamar IV

    Feb 7, 2024·59m
  108. 108

    Lberation Theology with Rev. Mitchell Boone

    Jan 31, 2024·46m
  109. 109

    Religious Trauma with Jessica Brazeal

    Jan 24, 2024·47m
  110. 110

    Stages of Change with Kelly Slaven

    Jan 17, 2024·43m
  111. 111

    Christian Mysticism

    Jan 10, 2024·40m
  112. 112

    The Spirituality of Birding

    Jan 3, 2024·31m
  113. 113

    Happy New Year and Introductions

    Jan 1, 2024·21m
  114. 114

    The Myth of Redemptive Violence

    Dec 27, 2023·49m
  115. 115

    The Mulberry Tree

    Dec 19, 2023·20m