More Perfect

WNYC Studios

49 episodes listed below

Listen to the show on

A WNYC documentary series tracing how clerks' memos and confirmation fights shaped Supreme Court doctrine.

The gist

More Perfect is a reported narrative show about the Supreme Court and the legal ideas that move through American life. It builds constitutional questions from scenes, interviews, archive, and courtroom history rather than treating the Court as an abstraction.

PRESS PLAY

Find your next episode

All episodes

About More Perfect

More Perfect is a narrative documentary series produced by WNYC Studios, hosted by Julia Longoria, that reconstructs how specific Supreme Court doctrines and rulings came to exist. Rather than covering the Court as a running news beat, each episode digs into the origin story of a single case or legal concept — the clerk memo behind Roe's viability standard, the confirmation strategy David Souter pioneered and later nominees copied, or the peyote case that gutted a religious-freedom test for 27 years. Episodes are built from primary-source interviews with former law clerks, judges, historians, litigants, and their families, alongside archival tape and court records. Recurring subjects include the mechanics of judicial confirmation hearings, the abortion-rights fight from Roe through Dobbs, religious liberty and Native American rights, and the history of constitutional amendments. The show occasionally crosses over with other WNYC properties, referencing sister podcasts like On the Media and Death, Sex and Money, suggesting a shared documentary unit and production style across the network. Some later episodes widen the lens beyond the Court itself to related government-power stories, such as a university's standoff with federal funding demands. The tone throughout is investigative and narrative rather than opinion-driven, with scripted narration layered over interview tape. Listeners get case histories told through the people who lived them — law clerks explaining decades-old memos, litigants describing why they refused to settle, historians untangling how a rallying cry became institutional policy. The show suits people who want long-form, research-heavy explanations of how legal doctrine actually gets made, rather than short takes on current rulings.

Made for: Listeners interested in constitutional law, Supreme Court history, and how individual legal and political decisions shape long-running policy fights.

What sets it apart: Rather than commenting on current rulings, More Perfect reconstructs the overlooked origin of a single doctrine or case per episode, built on archival documents and interviews with the clerks and litigants involved instead of punditry.

In their own words

We’re taught the Supreme Court was designed to be above the fray of politics. But at a time when partisanship seeps into every pore of American life, are the nine justices living up to that promise? More Perfect is a guide to the current moment on the Court. We bring the highest court of the land down to earth, telling the human dramas at the Court that shape so many aspects of American life — from our religious freedom to our artistic expression, from our reproductive choices to our voice in democracy.

As heard by us

Based on 5 episodes we listened to · September 2026

More Perfect turns constitutional doctrine into reported human drama, showing how judicial choices become political consequences.

More Perfect treats constitutional law as a chain of human decisions rather than a set of finished doctrines. Julia Longoria guides reported narratives through Supreme Court cases, judicial nominations, and the political consequences of legal reasoning, using interviews and…

Read our full review in PlayNext →

Why you'd press play

The Court feels less marble-clad once you're following the people caught beneath its abstractions.

Press play if you want

  • the human judgment behind legal lines that later look inevitable
  • religious-liberty arguments tested against fired workers, peyote, and anti-discrimination laws
Read the full recommendation in PlayNext →
supreme court confirmation battlesorigins of legal doctrineabortion rights and roe v. wade legacyreligious freedom and native american rightsjudicial nomination strategylaw clerks and behind-the-scenes court historyconstitutional amendmentsgovernment and academic institutional power fights

Talks about

Best episodes of More Perfect

Short reviews from the PlayNext desk, based on the episodes we processed.

The Harvard PlanNov 18, 2025

A sober, tense account of Harvard weighing resistance as federal pressure turns university independence into a fight over money and power.

More Perfect frames The Harvard Plan through Ryan Enos, a Harvard political scientist whose trust in numbers and institutions gives the story a sturdy human center.

No More Souters - RevisitedMay 9, 2025

A clear account of how David Souter's mystery made Supreme Court nominations feel riskier.

More Perfect uses David Souter's Supreme Court path to explain why an apparently reserved nominee could become a lasting lesson in political risk.

Part 1: The Viability LineJun 8, 2023

A clear account of how viability entered abortion law through judicial judgment, not inevitability.

More Perfect treats the viability line as a judicial choice made under pressure, not a settled phrase handed down from constitutional law. The episode follows the search for where that boundary entered abortion doctrine, with Judge John Newman explaining how, in a lower court…

The Supreme Court v. PeyoteMay 11, 2023

A clear Supreme Court story about peyote, religious liberty, and who gets protection when faith meets law.

More Perfect's "The Supreme Court v. Peyote" traces a religious liberty fight from the Supreme Court's marble ritual to Oregon's refusal to treat peyote use as protected worship.

The Sleeper Amendments with Post AnimalNov 14, 2018

A brisk, music-framed look at constitutional amendments that seem dull until politics starts leaning on them.

More Perfect treats the 16th and 22nd Amendments as sleeper provisions: easy to file as procedural, harder to dismiss once the politics around them comes into view.

Podcasts like More Perfect

  • Making Sense with Sam HarrisSam Harris

    Sam Harris interviews scientists and journalists on AI risk, religion, and US politics.

  • The Journal.The Wall Street Journal & Spotify Studios

    WSJ reporters unpack the Epstein files, surrogacy industry abuses, and true-crime court battles.

  • PivotNew York Magazine

    Kara Swisher and Scott Galloway argue through tech, media, and Trump-era politics twice weekly.

  • Dan Carlin's Common SenseDan Carlin

    Dan Carlin's solo essays connecting executive power, historical collapse, and American democracy.

  • The ArgumentJerusalem Demsas & Matthew Yglesias

    Sharp political debate with policy detail and real disagreement.

  • Hidden ForcesDemetri Kofinas

    Demetri Kofinas interviews specialists on geopolitics, energy markets, AI, and finance at length.

Episodes

  1. 1

    The Harvard Plan

    Hidden gem

    Ryan Enos thought election night might be fun again.

    Nov 18, 2025·47m·2 clips
  2. 2

    No More Souters - Revisited

    More Perfect examines the legacy of Justice David Souter — the reclusive, bookish New Hampshire judge who was nominated by George H.W.

    May 9, 2025·49m·3 clips
  3. 3

    Andy Warhol and the Art of Judging Art

    Aug 3, 2023·41m
  4. 4

    The Original Anti-Vaxxer

    Jul 27, 2023·41m
  5. 5

    Not Even Past: Dred Scott Reprise

    Jul 20, 2023·35m
  6. 6

    No More Souters

    Jul 13, 2023·49m
  7. 7

    Off the Record, On the Stand

    Jun 29, 2023·33m
  8. 8

    Adoptive Couple v. Baby Girl Reprise

    Jun 22, 2023·46m
  9. 9

    Part 2: If Not Viability, Then What?

    Jun 15, 2023·35m
  10. 10

    Part 1: The Viability Line

    Hidden gem

    More Perfect traces the origin of the viability line in Roe v.

    Jun 8, 2023·45m·3 clips
  11. 11

    The Political Thicket Reprise

    Jun 1, 2023·45m
  12. 12

    The Court’s Reporters

    May 25, 2023·35m
  13. 13

    Clarence X

    May 18, 2023·58m
  14. 14

    The Supreme Court v. Peyote

    More Perfect host Julia Longoria traces the story behind Employment Division v.

    May 11, 2023·58m·5 clips
  15. 15

    The Preamble: Introducing More Perfect Season 4

    May 4, 2023·8m
  16. 16

    More Perfect Is Coming Back

    Julia Longoria announces that More Perfect, WNYCs Supreme Court podcast, is returning after four years of silence with a new host and a new approach to match a transformed court.

    Jul 14, 2022·3m
  17. 17

    The Unfinished Amendments with Kevin Devine

    Dec 4, 2018·24m
  18. 18

    The Democracy Amendments with Stef Chura

    Nov 30, 2018·31m
  19. 19

    The Power Player Amendments with Devendra Banhart

    Nov 20, 2018·42m
  20. 20

    The Sleeper Amendments with Post Animal

    Taxes become a test of who belongs.

    Nov 14, 2018·26m·2 clips
  21. 21

    The Reconstruction Amendments with Kash Doll

    Oct 24, 2018·30m
  22. 22

    The 19th Amendment with Dolly Parton

    Oct 12, 2018·43m
  23. 23

    The Eccentric Amendments with The Kominas

    Oct 2, 2018·34m
  24. 24

    The Criminal Justice Amendments with Adia Victoria

    Sep 25, 2018·29m
  25. 25

    The Gun Show Reprise

    Sep 19, 2018·1h 10m
  26. 26

    The First Amendments with They Might Be Giants

    Sep 18, 2018·39m
  27. 27

    We've Got a Surprise For You

    Sep 11, 2018·3m
  28. 28

    American Pendulum Reprise

    Jun 26, 2018·47m
  29. 29

    One Nation, Under Money

    Jan 30, 2018·52m
  30. 30

    Justice, Interrupted

    Dec 19, 2017·24m
  31. 31

    The Architect

    Dec 7, 2017·34m
  32. 32

    Mr. Graham and the Reasonable Man

    Nov 30, 2017·1h 8m
  33. 33

    Sex Appeal

    Nov 23, 2017·56m
  34. 34

    The Hate Debate

    Nov 6, 2017·37m
  35. 35

    Citizens United

    Nov 2, 2017·1h 1m
  36. 36

    Enemy of Mankind

    Oct 24, 2017·55m
  37. 37

    The Heist

    Oct 16, 2017·21m
  38. 38

    The Gun Show

    Oct 12, 2017·1h 10m
  39. 39

    Who’s Gerry and Why Is He So Bad at Drawing Maps?

    Oct 3, 2017·21m
  40. 40

    American Pendulum II

    Oct 2, 2017·32m
  41. 41

    American Pendulum I

    Oct 1, 2017·46m
  42. 42

    We're Back

    Sep 28, 2017·1m
  43. 43

    Object Anyway

    Jul 16, 2016·49m
  44. 44

    Kittens Kick The Giggly Blue Robot All Summer

    Jul 1, 2016·37m
  45. 45

    The Imperfect Plaintiffs

    Jun 28, 2016·1h 4m
  46. 46

    More Perfect presents: Adoptive Couple v. Baby Girl

    Jun 17, 2016·43m
  47. 47

    The Political Thicket

    Jun 10, 2016·43m
  48. 48

    Cruel and Unusual

    Jun 2, 2016·40m
  49. 49

    Coming Soon: More Perfect

    May 24, 2016·1m