Magic Talk: by White Rabbit Magic

Rough Edge Studios

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Magic shop talk with practical bite.

The gist

Magic Talk: by White Rabbit Magic treats magic as a working craft, not a museum piece. The talk moves from card stock and stage patter to social media bookings, ego, improv, renovations, local shows, and the odd missing park bench.

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About Magic Talk: by White Rabbit Magic

Magic Talk: by White Rabbit Magic is a casual, insider-facing show about magic as it is actually practiced, sold, rehearsed, and argued over. It has the feel of a shop conversation that happened to catch a microphone. The episodes move quickly. A discussion about storytelling can turn into a debate over opening lines, then into a joke about terrible sales calls, then back to the problem of sounding genuine in front of an audience. That looseness is part of the point. The show keeps returning to the gap between what a magician plans and what a room actually gives back. Recent conversations spend real time on dialogue, improv, scripting, and the danger of announcing weakness before an audience has noticed anything wrong. The advice tends to be practical rather than lofty. If a line sounds fake, the room will feel it. If a performer lets ego lead, the community suffers. If marketing gets too aggressive, even a useful booking strategy starts to look desperate. The show also has a strong shop-and-scene texture. There are card decks to compare, prices to mention, walls and curtains being renovated, local performances to recap, and recurring jokes about a suspiciously nearby park bench. It is not a tightly edited lecture series. It is a living conversation between people who care about the craft enough to tease each other while still taking performance seriously. The best moments come when a practical detail opens into a broader question: what makes magic feel honest, supportive, and worth preserving? That makes it useful for performers, but also enjoyable for fans who like hearing how magicians think when they are not pretending everything is effortless.

Made for: For magicians, student performers, magic-shop regulars, and curious fans who enjoy the craft talk behind routines, props, patter, and bookings. It best suits listeners comfortable with loose banter and opinionated shop-floor discussion.

What sets it apart: The show stands out by treating magic as a day-to-day working culture: cards on shelves, rooms under renovation, performers testing lines, and friends challenging each other's instincts. Its advice arrives through banter instead of polished instruction.

In their own words

Magic Talk: by White Rabbit Magic is a podcast for magicians, creators, and magic enthusiasts who believe in preserving the wonder. Produced by Rough Edge Studios, each episode explores the art, performance, business, and history of magic—without revealing secrets. Join us for insightful discussions, interviews, product reviews, and behind-the-scenes perspectives that celebrate the craft while honoring its traditions.

As heard by us

Based on 5 episodes we listened to · September 2026

Magic Talk makes the economics and working habits of professional magic legible through candid shop-floor conversation and performance critique.

Magic Talk: by White Rabbit Magic turns the working life of magicians into a loose, funny shop-floor conversation. James Lantine, magic shop owner Joshua Lantine, and Gregory Alexander move easily between performance craft, community standards, and the practical realities of…

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Even a cheap deck gets a close inspection when you care how magic feels in your hands.

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  • to know how a bargain deck handles before you buy a brick
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Magic Talk #288 | 04.07.2026 | Big News in the Magic Community | MTApr 8, 2026

Community news and practical card talk anchor the episode, with Mavericks getting a detailed, performer-minded runthrough.

Magic Talk #288 leans on two plainspoken threads of magic-world conversation: David Copperfield's announced retirement after 25 years at the MGM, and a practical look at Mavericks, an inexpensive deck that is described as made in the USA, easy to work with, and solid enough to…

Magic Talk #287 | 03.31.2026 | The Magic of Storytelling | mtApr 1, 2026

A loose chat about how magic, marketing, old props, and card decks keep changing.

The episode moves through a loose studio conversation about how magic has shifted since the speaker began performing, from parlor staples to newer ways of framing the work.

Magic Talk #286 | 03.24.2026 | How to Create Catchy Dialogue | MTMar 25, 2026

A loose, practical talk about how wording shapes a magic moment.

This episode looks at how wording can make or break a magic moment: a line can sharpen an opener, pull a room in, or weaken the effect when it puts uncertainty front and center.

Magic Talk #282 | 01.06.2026 | Leave Your Ego at the DoorJan 8, 2026

A backstage conversation about ego, support, and giving people a real chance.

Magic Talk centers on support, ego, and the way magicians talk about one another. It starts with a joke at Josh's expense, then shifts into a plainspoken exchange about restraint, reputation, and the value of holding back when piling on would be easier than a fair read.

Magic Talk #281 | 12.30.2025 | New Year's Resolutions and MoreJan 4, 2026

A loose holiday talk that turns backstage banter into a practical discussion of scripting, improvising, and staying present.

The episode opens on holiday questions and settles into a loose backstage conversation about magic, craft, and business. Its best stretch comes when the hosts weigh scripting against improvising, and the case for staying present lands as practical rather than preachy.

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Episodes

  1. 1

    Magic Talk #289 | Public Service Announcement / Criss Angel

    Gregory Alexander describes seeing Alice Cooper and Chris Angel's limited run at Planet Hollywood from Row F, Section 102, where everyone stood for the whole show.

    Apr 26, 2026·31m·2 clips
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    Magic Talk #288 | 04.07.2026 | Big News in the Magic Community | MT

    Hidden gem

    Gregory is apparently missing, bench and all.

    Apr 8, 2026·34m·2 clips
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    Magic Talk #287 | 03.31.2026 | The Magic of Storytelling | mt

    Hidden gem

    Gregory Alexander is absent again, and the room starts by joking about the missing bench, the mic setup, and whether a new format is needed.

    Apr 1, 2026·33m·2 clips
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    Magic Talk #286 | 03.24.2026 | How to Create Catchy Dialogue | MT

    Hidden gem

    Doug Coleman joins James and Joshua.

    Mar 25, 2026·54m·3 clips
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    Magic Talk #285 | 03.03.2026 | It's Been A While... | MT

    The hosts of Magic Talk catch up after a break, discussing James's recent renovations to his magic space including castle doors, a ticket booth, and lighting, while joking about Gregory's absence from a magic show.

    Mar 10, 2026·46m
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    Magic Talk #284 | (02/03/2026) | Deliver What You Promise

    The hosts discuss renovations to their space, an upcoming show, and a magician's visit to a famous figure in Los Angeles.

    Feb 13, 2026·33m
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    Magic Talk #283 | 01/14/2026 | Magic Marketing

    The hosts discuss using social media marketing to get bookings for magicians, acknowledging their own struggles and the need for expert advice.

    Jan 15, 2026·44m
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    Magic Talk #282 | 01.06.2026 | Leave Your Ego at the Door

    Hidden gem

    The hosts open by unpacking the title and turning it into a joke about Josh's ego.

    Jan 8, 2026·52m·2 clips
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    Magic Talk #281 | 12.30.2025 | New Year's Resolutions and More

    Hidden gem

    The hosts kick things off with Christmas talk and New Year’s resolutions.

    Jan 4, 2026·44m·2 clips
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    Magic Talk #280 | 12.16.2025 | The Countdown Begins ...

    Dec 21, 2025·55m
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    Magic Talk #279 | 12.09.2025 | Where The Clubs Are

    Dec 14, 2025·38m
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    Magic Talk #277 | 11.25.2025 | Now You See Me, Now You Don't: The Latest Magic News

    Dec 7, 2025·17m
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    Magic Talk #278 | 12.02.2025 | That Magical Season

    Dec 7, 2025·37m
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    Magic Talk #276 | 11.18.2025 |What Separates Success from Failure

    Nov 23, 2025·43m
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    Magic Talk #275 | 10/28/2025 | Strolling Go To's

    Nov 6, 2025·32m
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    Magic Talk #274 | 10.13.2025 | Which Secret is More Valuable Than the Other?

    Oct 17, 2025·47m
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    Magic Talk #273 | 10.08.2025 | It's All About Houdini

    Oct 13, 2025·50m
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    Magic Talk #272 | 09.30.2025 | That Gets Under My Skin ...

    Oct 1, 2025·1h 2m
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    Magic Talk #271 | 09.16.2025 | Tricks That Have Stood the Test of Time

    Sep 22, 2025·38m
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    Magic Talk #270 | 09.02.2025 | The Psychology of Being Fooled

    Sep 7, 2025·44m
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    Magic Talk #269 | 08.27.2025 | Changes In Magic

    Sep 1, 2025·42m
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    Magic Talk #268 | 08.19.2025 | Originality. Is It Worth It?

    Aug 24, 2025·45m
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    Magic Talk #267 | 08.04.2025 | Live from the Magic Live Convention in Las Vegas

    Aug 7, 2025·46m
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    Magic Talk #266 | 07.28.2025 | Performing for Kids

    Aug 3, 2025·29m
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    Episode #265 | 2025.07.08 - Special Guests Rich Hurley and Gregory Alexander

    Jul 8, 2025·58m
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    Episode #264 | 2025.02.26 - Special Guest Fred Blanco and Greg Alexander

    Feb 27, 2025·40m
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    Episode #263 | 2025.02.12 - Secrecy in Magic - How important is it

    Feb 12, 2025·1h 3m
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    Episode #262 | 2025.01.29 - The Harmony Project

    Jan 29, 2025·1h
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    Episode #261 | 2025.01.25 - Themed Magic Shows

    Jan 25, 2025·20m
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    Episode #260 | 2024.12.20 - Ron Saylor Interview

    This episode of Magic Talk features an interview with magician Ron Saylor and his friend John Hamish, discussing magic and targeting enthusiasts.

    Dec 20, 2024·1h 6m
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    Episode #259 | 2024.12.04 - Interview with Frank Williams

    This episode of Magic Talk features an interview with magician Frank Williams, discussing his stage name and background.

    Dec 4, 2024·54m
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    Episode #258 | 2024.11.27 - The holidays have arrived

    Nov 27, 2024·42m
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    Episode #257 | 2024.11.20 - Think or not to think like a magician

    Nov 20, 2024·50m
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    Episode #256A | 2024.11.13 - Interview with Fred Blanco

    The hosts of Magic Talk, James and Joshua Lantine, return to their old studio setup and discuss listener reactions while joking about Star Wars references.

    Nov 13, 2024·40m
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    Episode #256 | 2024.11.12 - Magic Mentor

    Nov 12, 2024·49m
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    Episode #255 | 2024.10.17 - What shows are the most lucrative

    Oct 17, 2024·43m
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    Episode #254 | 2024.10.09 - The crowning of a new member

    Oct 9, 2024·40m
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    Episode #253 | 2024.10.02 - 4 walling your shows

    Oct 2, 2024·43m
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    Episode #252 | 2024.09.25 - Special Guest Doug Coleman

    Sep 25, 2024·44m
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    Episode #251 | 2024.09.18 - Festival of Magic

    Sep 18, 2024·34m
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    Episode #250 | 2024.09.11 - Respecting the Craft

    Sep 11, 2024·52m
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    Episode #247 | 2024.08.14 - Click Bait

    Aug 14, 2024·42m
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    Episode #246 | 2024.08.07 - Secrets and Hypnosis

    Aug 7, 2024·45m
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    Episode #245 | 2024.07.31 - What does magic mean to you

    Jul 31, 2024·44m
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    Episode #244 | 2024.07.24 - Magic Mentor

    Jul 24, 2024·31m
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    Episode #243 | 2024.07.17 - Secrets in Magic

    Jul 17, 2024·36m
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    Episode #242 | 2024.06.05 - An interview with Charlie Mount

    This episode of Magic Talk features hosts Joshua and James discussing Joshua's new fatherhood before introducing an interview with special guest Charlie Mount.

    Jun 5, 2024·1h 6m
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    Episode #241 | 2024.05.29 - Who is the creator

    May 29, 2024·33m
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    Episode #240 | 2024.05.22 - Technology and Magic

    May 22, 2024·37m
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    Episode #239 | 2024.05.15 - Animals and Magic

    May 15, 2024·44m
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    Episode #238 | 2024.05.08 - It's all about close-up

    May 8, 2024·44m
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    Episode #237 | 2024.05.02 - Hey you stolen my lines

    May 1, 2024·55m
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    Episode #236 | 2024.04.24 - To reveal or not to reveal

    Apr 24, 2024·57m
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    Episode #235 | 2024.04.17 - The Art of Mistakes

    Apr 17, 2024·43m
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    Episode #234 | 2024.04.10 - How to market your idea

    Apr 10, 2024·49m
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    Episode #233 | 2024.04.03 - How did you get your start

    Apr 3, 2024·1h 14m
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    Episode #232 | 2024.03.27 - Your killing me

    Mar 30, 2024·1h 2m
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    Episode #231 | 2024.03.20 - Too smart for magic

    Mar 20, 2024·39m
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    Episode #230 | 2024.03.13 - Copyright vs. Patent

    Mar 13, 2024·32m
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    Episode #229 | 2024.03.06 - Everyone is a creator

    Mar 6, 2024·49m
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    Episode #228 | 2024.02.28 - How to go Viral

    Feb 29, 2024·1h 4m
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    Episode #227 | 2024.02.07 - Chris Ramsey's New Years Post

    Feb 7, 2024·1h 12m
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    Episode #226 | 2024.01.31 - We miss you Greg

    Jan 31, 2024·35m
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    Episode #225 | 2024.01.24 - Are we a cookie cutter society

    Jan 24, 2024·1h
  65. 65

    Episode #224 | 2024.01.11 - Don't think like a magician

    Jan 12, 2024·52m
  66. 66

    Episode #223 | 2024.01.03 - Trick versus Routine

    Jan 4, 2024·49m
  67. 67

    Episode #222 | 2023.12.28 - What's your New Year Resolution

    Dec 29, 2023·47m
  68. 68

    Episode #221 | 2023.12.21 - To mic or not to mic

    Dec 22, 2023·1h 5m
  69. 69

    Episode #220 | 2023.12.13 - Our Renowned Host is Missing!

    Dec 16, 2023·38m
  70. 70

    Episode #219 | 2023.12.07 - 18 More Days to Christmas

    Dec 7, 2023·42m
  71. 71

    Episode #218 | 2023.11.30 - Sales Techniques

    Dec 1, 2023·57m
  72. 72

    Episode #217 | 2023.11.22 - Let the holidays begin

    Nov 23, 2023·49m
  73. 73

    Episode #216 | 2023.11.16 - Bark Update and More

    Nov 17, 2023·44m
  74. 74

    Episode #215 | 2023.11.09 - Happy Birthday Bob

    Nov 10, 2023·49m
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    Episode #214 | 2023.11.02 - Let the Holiday's begin

    Nov 2, 2023·41m
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    Episode #213 | 2023.10.26 - The Power of Self-Promotion

    Oct 27, 2023·49m
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    Episode #212 | 2023.10.19 - Special Guests_ Buck Bowen and Joshua Ray

    Oct 20, 2023·1h 13m
  78. 78

    Episode #211 | 2023.10.12 - Special Guest Rich Hurley

    Oct 17, 2023·1h 3m
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    Episode #210 | 2023.09.28 - Magic Man Bryce and Hypnosis

    Sep 29, 2023·35m
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    Episode #209 | 2023.09.14 - Using music to enhance your performance.

    Sep 15, 2023·41m
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    Episode #208 | 2023.08.31 - Wildcat and Josiah on Horse-Play

    Sep 1, 2023·32m
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    Episode #207 | 2023.08.24 - Doug Coleman

    Aug 24, 2023·1h 7m
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    Episode #206 | 2023.08.17 - All about camp

    Aug 18, 2023·28m
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    Episode #205 | 2023.07.20 - Let's Talk Magic

    Jul 21, 2023·35m
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    Episode #204 | 2023.07.13 - Defacing U.S. Currency and more

    Jul 14, 2023·43m
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    Spisode #205 | 2023.07.05 - Promoting & Bark Update

    Jul 7, 2023·49m
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    Episode #204 | 2023.06.22 - Defacing US Currency

    Jun 23, 2023·37m
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    Episode #203 | 2023.06.08 - Nathaniel Segal

    Jun 9, 2023·1h 3m
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    Episode #202 | 2023.06.02 - Special Guest Sharpo!

    Jun 2, 2023·50m
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    Episode #201 | 2023.05.18 - Movie Magic, Stunts Gone Wrong, and a Little Magic Too

    May 19, 2023·1h 11m
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    Episode #200 | 2023.05.11 - Mistakes will happen

    May 12, 2023·53m
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    Episode #199 | 2023.05.04 - Magic ADHD

    May 5, 2023·39m
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    Episode #198 | 2023.04.20 - Where do you like to perform?

    Apr 21, 2023·47m
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    Episode #197 | 2023.04.13 - Sleight of Hand

    Apr 14, 2023·56m
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    Episode #196 | 2023.03.23 - Creating Content Videos

    Mar 24, 2023·47m
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    Episode #195 | 2023.03.09 - Artistic Distortion

    Mar 10, 2023·51m
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    Episode #194 | 2023.02.09 - Different methods of presenting magic

    Feb 10, 2023·53m
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    Episode #193 | 2023.02.01 - Update on Bark

    Feb 3, 2023·37m
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    Episode #192 | 2023.01.26 - Interview with Ron Saylor

    Jan 27, 2023·1h 3m
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    Episode #191 | 2023.01.26 - Preshow for Ron Saylor Interview

    Jan 27, 2023·33m
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    2023.01.19 | Today is all about John day

    Jan 19, 2023·38m
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    Episode #190 | 2023.01.12 - Using a listing service for gigs

    Jan 13, 2023·1h 3m
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    Episode #189 | 2023.01.06 - The Business of Magic; Digital Marketing with special Guest Fred Blanco

    Jan 7, 2023·1h 9m
  104. 104

    2022.12.29 | Happy New Year

    Dec 29, 2022·48m
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    Episode #188 | 2022.12.22 - Holiday Special

    Dec 23, 2022·49m
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    Episode #187 | 2022.12.01 - The Joy of the Holidays

    Dec 2, 2022·34m
  107. 107

    2022.12.01 | Tis the Season to Shop Local

    Dec 1, 2022·42m
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    Episode #186 | 2022.11.04 - Social Media Tips

    Nov 4, 2022·44m
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    Episode #185 | 2022.10.27 - Etiquette

    Oct 28, 2022·53m
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    Episode #184 | 2022.10.22 - Learn from our mistakes

    Oct 21, 2022·1h 2m
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    Episode #183 | 2022.09.29 - How to sell tickets to your show

    Sep 30, 2022·53m
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    Episode #182A | 2022.08.25 - The Art of Deception & More on Magic Show Set

    Aug 26, 2022·1h 8m
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    Episode #182 | 2022.08.18 - The Spirit of Magic

    Aug 19, 2022·43m
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    Episode #181 | 2022.08.11 - Getting your name on the top of Google

    Aug 12, 2022·49m
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    Episode #180 | 2022.07.14 - How do you rehearse

    Jul 15, 2022·57m
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    Episode #179 | 2022.06.23 - The Incredible Jeff McBride

    Jun 24, 2022·48m
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    Episode #178 | 2022.06.09 - A little of everything

    Jun 9, 2022·53m
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    Episode #177 | 2022.05.26 - To script or not to script

    May 27, 2022·48m
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    Episode #176 | 2022.05.13 - Why don't you like magic?

    May 13, 2022·50m
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    Episode #175 | 2022.05.05 - The good old days

    May 6, 2022·1h 13m
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    Episode #174 | 2022.04.28 - Great conversation with the dynamic duo

    Apr 29, 2022·1h 10m
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    Episode #173 | 2022.04.21 - The Non Bob Kubota Interview Show

    Apr 22, 2022·44m
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    Episode #172 | 2022.04.14 - Spend an hour with the amazing John Kippen

    Apr 15, 2022·1h 2m
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    Episode #171 | 2022.04.07 - The Art of Google Searches

    Apr 8, 2022·54m
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    Episode #170 | 2022.03.31 - Special Guest Jonathan Molo

    Apr 1, 2022·1h 12m
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    Episode #169 | 2022.03.24 - Subtleties & Running

    Mar 25, 2022·1h 4m
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    Episode #168 | 2022.03.17 - Magic Talk with Special Guest Steve Thomas

    Mar 18, 2022·1h 19m
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    Episode #167 | 2022.03.10 - Magic, Cards and Other Stuff

    Mar 12, 2022·1h 11m
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    Episode #166 | 2022.03.03 - Special guest Evan Disney

    Mar 4, 2022·1h 4m
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    Episode #165 | 2022.02.10 - Special Guest Ron Saylor

    Feb 11, 2022·1h 11m
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    Episode #164 | 2022.02.03 - Special Guest Lincoln Bond and Fred Blanco

    Feb 4, 2022·52m