Living The Principles Podcast

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Kwanzaa's principles, applied to grief, history and everyday life.

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Latricia Smith and Phyllis G. Williams hold principles of Kwanzaa, such as faith, purpose and collective work and responsibility, up against grief, Black history, fitness and television. Guests include Ms. Opal Lee on making Juneteenth a national holiday, and conversations close on a proverb the hosts call a soul snack.

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About Living The Principles Podcast

Living The Principles Podcast is built on one habit: take a principle of Kwanzaa and test it against something real. Latricia Smith and Phyllis G. Williams host, greeting listeners as Difference Makers and signing off with a charge to expand minds and impact communities. The range is wide. Grief, fitness, a television reboot, Juneteenth and racial violence in North Carolina history all sit side by side. In 'Never Say Goodbye', faith and collective work and responsibility are the stated lenses, and the second is approached through grief. One host recalls losing a sister a week before going back to school, facing a first birthday without her, and then losing a sister-in-love months later. That year, the host says, is mostly a cloud. The host credits having a community, and the principle stops being abstract. 'All About Fitness' ties self-determination and purpose to guests Dwayne Webb, a soon-to-be-retired U.S. Army Major, and Christy Thornton. Their total fitness model reaches past exercise into webinars, workshops and fit talks, where a credentialed speaker gets fifteen minutes at the workout; one was a local bank employee explaining LLCs and incorporation. Ms. Opal Lee, the oldest living board member of the National Juneteenth Observance Foundation, talks about her campaign and petition to make Juneteenth a national holiday. Her point runs past a single date: people taught to hate can be taught to love, and each person should become a committee of one. She also recalls meeting President Obama more than once. Christopher Everett, introduced as a creative director, producer, archivist and curator, says he made his film less as a history lesson than as a way to learn how white supremacy evolves and to spot its signs today. The conversation reaches North Carolina's official 2006 state report on 1898. Culture gets read the same way. Comparing Fresh Prince with the 2022 Bel Air, the hosts offer two explanations for the new show's heavier drama: shorter attention spans and the pressure to sell, and the real-life issues of the present that the series puts on screen. An episode reviewing the documentary Uncle Tom begins with definitions, arguing that the character in the original story was a hero, not a sellout. The pace is measured, and the conversation is allowed to wander when the wandering says something about family, faith or purpose. Conversations land on a soul snack, a proverb most often handed to Latricia: 'grapes are eaten one by one', or 'life can be understood backwards, but we live it forward'.

Made for: Suits a listener who wants unhurried conversations about Black history, grief, health and pop culture, with each topic tied back to values like faith, purpose and collective responsibility.

What sets it apart: Conversations are anchored to named principles of Kwanzaa and close with a proverb the hosts call a soul snack, so even a talk about a TV reboot or a fitness program becomes a conversation about values.

In their own words

Living The Principles is a bi-weekly podcast committed to relevant conversations about strengthening the Black Community. We discuss ways to incorporate the seven principles of Kwanzaa into our daily lives to better ourselves, our communities, and the world around us. If you yearn for more love, unity, clarity, and purpose this is the podcast for you.

As heard by us

Based on 5 episodes we listened to · September 2026

It connects Black history, cultural criticism, and personal experience to the everyday work of strengthening community life.

Latricia Smith and Phyllis G. Williams keep large civic questions close to daily life, moving between co-hosted reflection and interviews that ask how principles become practice.

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Why you'd press play

A grief basket and a Juneteenth petition make 'community' harder for you to leave as a slogan.

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  • to hear Phyllis G. Williams describe the care she received after losing family
  • to hear Latricia Smith ask how a fitness group makes room for money and mental health
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Episodes

  1. 1

    Never Say Goodbye

    Hidden gem

    In the 70th and final episode of Living the Principles Podcast, co-hosts Latricia Smith and Phyllis G.

    Apr 6, 2023·47m·3 clips
  2. 2

    All About Fitness

    Hidden gem

    Army Major Dwayne Webb and Christy Thornton join Living the Principles Podcast to describe All About Fitness Incorporated, a nonprofit that started as a workout club in South Korea in 2012 to combat cold-weather hibernation and grew into a 15,000-follower global family covering physical, spiritual, mental, financial, legal, and relational fitness.

    Mar 23, 2023·37m·2 clips
  3. 3

    Rebel Readers

    Mar 9, 2023·41m
  4. 4

    The Divine 9 Do More Than Just Step

    Feb 23, 2023·46m
  5. 5

    The Banker

    Feb 9, 2023·37m
  6. 6

    Living the principles in 2022

    Jan 5, 2023·36m
  7. 7

    What Happened to Granny's Garden?

    Jul 7, 2022·59m
  8. 8

    Juneteenth Foolery

    Jun 23, 2022·33m
  9. 9

    The Many Paths of Malcolm X

    May 26, 2022·41m
  10. 10

    The Erasure of Afro-Mexicans

    May 12, 2022·28m
  11. 11

    Act Like a Lady-Think for Yourself

    Apr 28, 2022·37m
  12. 12

    Bel Air vs. Fresh Prince of Bel Air

    Hidden gem

    Hosts Latricia Smith and Phyllis G.

    Apr 14, 2022·33m·2 clips
  13. 13

    Why Aren't Black Women Getting Married

    Mar 31, 2022·43m
  14. 14

    What is Black Excellence?

    Feb 27, 2022·37m
  15. 15

    The Problems With Kwanzaa

    Jan 18, 2022·45m
  16. 16

    Black American in Nigeria

    Dec 25, 2021·42m
  17. 17

    What If We Believe? Interview With Joann Cox

    Oct 23, 2021·36m
  18. 18

    Concrete Cowboys

    Aug 26, 2021·35m
  19. 19

    Grandmother of Juneteenth: Interview with Ms. Opal Lee

    Hidden gem

    At 94 years old, Opal Lee—known as the Grandmother of Juneteenth—joins Living the Principles Podcast to discuss her decades-long campaign to make Juneteenth a national holiday, including walking 1,400 miles from Fort Worth to Washington D.C.

    Jun 10, 2021·39m·2 clips
  20. 20

    Celebrating Two Milestones: 2nd Podcastversary and 50th episode

    May 27, 2021·23m
  21. 21

    Dealing With Mother Issues

    May 13, 2021·45m
  22. 22

    Poetry and Conversation Part 2

    Apr 29, 2021·28m
  23. 23

    Poetry and Conversation Part 1

    Apr 29, 2021·55m
  24. 24

    A Different Side of Our CoHost

    Apr 15, 2021·32m
  25. 25

    A Different Side of Our CoHost

    Apr 15, 2021·32m
  26. 26

    Black Family History: Searching for the Missing Link

    Apr 1, 2021·36m
  27. 27

    What We Still Have Wrong About HIV in 2021

    Mar 11, 2021·47m
  28. 28

    Black Love-Interview with Rio and Micca Watkins

    Feb 25, 2021·41m
  29. 29

    Lessons Learned from 90's Black Love Movies

    Feb 11, 2021·40m
  30. 30

    Review of The "Uncle Tom" Documentary

    The hosts discuss the documentary 'Uncle Tom' and explore the true meaning of the term, aiming to reframe it as a hero rather than a sellout.

    Jan 28, 2021·32m
  31. 31

    If I Hear "I Have A Dream" One More Time

    Jan 16, 2021·28m
  32. 32

    What You Don't Know About Purpose

    Dec 31, 2020·39m
  33. 33

    Scandal: The Political Edition

    Nov 19, 2020·44m
  34. 34

    Are You Smarter Than A Fifth Grader? - Political Edition

    Oct 8, 2020·46m
  35. 35

    Minding Your Black Business: The Set Apart

    Sep 24, 2020·28m
  36. 36

    Minding Your Black Business: The Set Up

    Sep 10, 2020·33m
  37. 37

    Minding Your Black Business: The Come Out

    Aug 27, 2020·36m
  38. 38

    Minding Your Black Business: The Come Up

    Aug 13, 2020·41m
  39. 39

    The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly of Black Businesses

    Jul 16, 2020·35m
  40. 40

    The "F" Word

    Jul 2, 2020·22m
  41. 41

    Before It's Too Late

    Jun 18, 2020·34m
  42. 42

    Give Your Body a Fighting Chance

    Jun 4, 2020·31m
  43. 43

    Emotions Are Never Wrong

    May 21, 2020·36m
  44. 44

    Self Made Part 3; Good To Go, So-So, No Go

    May 7, 2020·40m
  45. 45

    Self Made Part 2: Roles, Culture and Marriage

    Apr 24, 2020·38m
  46. 46

    Self Made Part 1: The Vision is for You.

    Mar 26, 2020·40m
  47. 47

    All Blacks Matter

    Mar 12, 2020·27m
  48. 48

    wilmington on Fire- Interview with Christopher Everett

    Hidden gem

    Christopher Everett, director of the documentary Wilmington on Fire, discusses the 1898 Wilmington Massacre—one of the only coup d'etats in US history—with hosts Latricia Smith and Phyllis G.

    Feb 27, 2020·30m·2 clips
  49. 49

    Art as Activism

    Feb 20, 2020·16m
  50. 50

    Black History Month

    Feb 13, 2020·26m