
Kwanzaa's principles, applied to grief, history and everyday life.
The gist
Latricia Smith and Phyllis G. Williams hold principles of Kwanzaa, such as faith, purpose and collective work and responsibility, up against grief, Black history, fitness and television. Guests include Ms. Opal Lee on making Juneteenth a national holiday, and conversations close on a proverb the hosts call a soul snack.
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About Living The Principles Podcast
Living The Principles Podcast is built on one habit: take a principle of Kwanzaa and test it against something real. Latricia Smith and Phyllis G. Williams host, greeting listeners as Difference Makers and signing off with a charge to expand minds and impact communities. The range is wide. Grief, fitness, a television reboot, Juneteenth and racial violence in North Carolina history all sit side by side. In 'Never Say Goodbye', faith and collective work and responsibility are the stated lenses, and the second is approached through grief. One host recalls losing a sister a week before going back to school, facing a first birthday without her, and then losing a sister-in-love months later. That year, the host says, is mostly a cloud. The host credits having a community, and the principle stops being abstract. 'All About Fitness' ties self-determination and purpose to guests Dwayne Webb, a soon-to-be-retired U.S. Army Major, and Christy Thornton. Their total fitness model reaches past exercise into webinars, workshops and fit talks, where a credentialed speaker gets fifteen minutes at the workout; one was a local bank employee explaining LLCs and incorporation. Ms. Opal Lee, the oldest living board member of the National Juneteenth Observance Foundation, talks about her campaign and petition to make Juneteenth a national holiday. Her point runs past a single date: people taught to hate can be taught to love, and each person should become a committee of one. She also recalls meeting President Obama more than once. Christopher Everett, introduced as a creative director, producer, archivist and curator, says he made his film less as a history lesson than as a way to learn how white supremacy evolves and to spot its signs today. The conversation reaches North Carolina's official 2006 state report on 1898. Culture gets read the same way. Comparing Fresh Prince with the 2022 Bel Air, the hosts offer two explanations for the new show's heavier drama: shorter attention spans and the pressure to sell, and the real-life issues of the present that the series puts on screen. An episode reviewing the documentary Uncle Tom begins with definitions, arguing that the character in the original story was a hero, not a sellout. The pace is measured, and the conversation is allowed to wander when the wandering says something about family, faith or purpose. Conversations land on a soul snack, a proverb most often handed to Latricia: 'grapes are eaten one by one', or 'life can be understood backwards, but we live it forward'.
Made for: Suits a listener who wants unhurried conversations about Black history, grief, health and pop culture, with each topic tied back to values like faith, purpose and collective responsibility.
What sets it apart: Conversations are anchored to named principles of Kwanzaa and close with a proverb the hosts call a soul snack, so even a talk about a TV reboot or a fitness program becomes a conversation about values.
In their own words
Living The Principles is a bi-weekly podcast committed to relevant conversations about strengthening the Black Community. We discuss ways to incorporate the seven principles of Kwanzaa into our daily lives to better ourselves, our communities, and the world around us. If you yearn for more love, unity, clarity, and purpose this is the podcast for you.
As heard by us
Based on 5 episodes we listened to · September 2026
It connects Black history, cultural criticism, and personal experience to the everyday work of strengthening community life.
Latricia Smith and Phyllis G. Williams keep large civic questions close to daily life, moving between co-hosted reflection and interviews that ask how principles become practice.
Why you'd press play
A grief basket and a Juneteenth petition make 'community' harder for you to leave as a slogan.
Press play if you want
- to hear Phyllis G. Williams describe the care she received after losing family
- to hear Latricia Smith ask how a fitness group makes room for money and mental health
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Episodes
- 1
Never Say Goodbye
Hidden gemIn the 70th and final episode of Living the Principles Podcast, co-hosts Latricia Smith and Phyllis G.
Apr 6, 2023·47m·3 clips - 2
All About Fitness
Hidden gemArmy Major Dwayne Webb and Christy Thornton join Living the Principles Podcast to describe All About Fitness Incorporated, a nonprofit that started as a workout club in South Korea in 2012 to combat cold-weather hibernation and grew into a 15,000-follower global family covering physical, spiritual, mental, financial, legal, and relational fitness.
Mar 23, 2023·37m·2 clips - 3
Rebel Readers
Mar 9, 2023·41m - 4
The Divine 9 Do More Than Just Step
Feb 23, 2023·46m - 5
The Banker
Feb 9, 2023·37m - 6
Living the principles in 2022
Jan 5, 2023·36m - 7
What Happened to Granny's Garden?
Jul 7, 2022·59m - 8
Juneteenth Foolery
Jun 23, 2022·33m - 9
The Many Paths of Malcolm X
May 26, 2022·41m - 10
The Erasure of Afro-Mexicans
May 12, 2022·28m - 11
Act Like a Lady-Think for Yourself
Apr 28, 2022·37m - 12
Bel Air vs. Fresh Prince of Bel Air
Hidden gemHosts Latricia Smith and Phyllis G.
Apr 14, 2022·33m·2 clips - 13
Why Aren't Black Women Getting Married
Mar 31, 2022·43m - 14
What is Black Excellence?
Feb 27, 2022·37m - 15
The Problems With Kwanzaa
Jan 18, 2022·45m - 16
Black American in Nigeria
Dec 25, 2021·42m - 17
What If We Believe? Interview With Joann Cox
Oct 23, 2021·36m - 18
Concrete Cowboys
Aug 26, 2021·35m - 19
Grandmother of Juneteenth: Interview with Ms. Opal Lee
Hidden gemAt 94 years old, Opal Lee—known as the Grandmother of Juneteenth—joins Living the Principles Podcast to discuss her decades-long campaign to make Juneteenth a national holiday, including walking 1,400 miles from Fort Worth to Washington D.C.
Jun 10, 2021·39m·2 clips - 20
Celebrating Two Milestones: 2nd Podcastversary and 50th episode
May 27, 2021·23m - 21
Dealing With Mother Issues
May 13, 2021·45m - 22
Poetry and Conversation Part 2
Apr 29, 2021·28m - 23
Poetry and Conversation Part 1
Apr 29, 2021·55m - 24
A Different Side of Our CoHost
Apr 15, 2021·32m - 25
A Different Side of Our CoHost
Apr 15, 2021·32m - 26
Black Family History: Searching for the Missing Link
Apr 1, 2021·36m - 27
What We Still Have Wrong About HIV in 2021
Mar 11, 2021·47m - 28
Black Love-Interview with Rio and Micca Watkins
Feb 25, 2021·41m - 29
Lessons Learned from 90's Black Love Movies
Feb 11, 2021·40m - 30
Review of The "Uncle Tom" Documentary
The hosts discuss the documentary 'Uncle Tom' and explore the true meaning of the term, aiming to reframe it as a hero rather than a sellout.
Jan 28, 2021·32m - 31
If I Hear "I Have A Dream" One More Time
Jan 16, 2021·28m - 32
What You Don't Know About Purpose
Dec 31, 2020·39m - 33
Scandal: The Political Edition
Nov 19, 2020·44m - 34
Are You Smarter Than A Fifth Grader? - Political Edition
Oct 8, 2020·46m - 35
Minding Your Black Business: The Set Apart
Sep 24, 2020·28m - 36
Minding Your Black Business: The Set Up
Sep 10, 2020·33m - 37
Minding Your Black Business: The Come Out
Aug 27, 2020·36m - 38
Minding Your Black Business: The Come Up
Aug 13, 2020·41m - 39
The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly of Black Businesses
Jul 16, 2020·35m - 40
The "F" Word
Jul 2, 2020·22m - 41
Before It's Too Late
Jun 18, 2020·34m - 42
Give Your Body a Fighting Chance
Jun 4, 2020·31m - 43
Emotions Are Never Wrong
May 21, 2020·36m - 44
Self Made Part 3; Good To Go, So-So, No Go
May 7, 2020·40m - 45
Self Made Part 2: Roles, Culture and Marriage
Apr 24, 2020·38m - 46
Self Made Part 1: The Vision is for You.
Mar 26, 2020·40m - 47
All Blacks Matter
Mar 12, 2020·27m - 48
wilmington on Fire- Interview with Christopher Everett
Hidden gemChristopher Everett, director of the documentary Wilmington on Fire, discusses the 1898 Wilmington Massacre—one of the only coup d'etats in US history—with hosts Latricia Smith and Phyllis G.
Feb 27, 2020·30m·2 clips - 49
Art as Activism
Feb 20, 2020·16m - 50
Black History Month
Feb 13, 2020·26m