Leadership and Legacy: Conversations at the George Washington Presidential Library

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Leadership lessons with history in the room.

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Leadership and Legacy treats history as a working library for leadership questions, not a display case. Episodes move between George Washington, presidents, monarchy, military command, law, art, and public service with a calm, scholarly pace.

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About Leadership and Legacy: Conversations at the George Washington Presidential Library

Leadership and Legacy approaches leadership through historical casework. The show is built around conversations at the George Washington Presidential Library at Mount Vernon, with George Washington’s example often serving as the reference point. That frame gives the series a clear center. It is not limited to the founding era, though. Recent episodes move from George VI’s role in wartime diplomacy to Ronald Reagan’s political force, from Thomas Jefferson’s social and media networks to legal fights over presidential investigations. The show also spends serious time on the military. Live symposium episodes bring in discussions of the American military today, civil-military relations, chains of command, and the way civilian leaders receive military advice. The pacing is deliberate. Guests are introduced through their books, public roles, or institutional experience, then pressed toward specific lessons about judgment, accountability, communication, and restraint. The series is strongest when it shows leadership as a set of pressures rather than a collection of inspirational traits. A conversation about the Department of Homeland Security’s color code system becomes a study in public communication and admitting mistakes. A discussion of revolutionary artists opens into public persuasion, circulation, and even espionage. Jefferson’s brilliance is considered alongside conduct that looks politically uncomfortable from a modern distance. George VI’s speeches, travel, and correspondence become examples of soft power before and during World War II. The editorial posture is calm, civic-minded, and evidence-heavy. It favors institutions, precedent, biography, and historical texture over partisan reaction. Some episodes are studio interviews; others carry the looser sound and rhythm of live public events. Across both formats, the show treats history as usable knowledge for people thinking about power, service, governance, and character. It is especially well suited to listeners who want leadership discussed through presidents, monarchs, courts, cabinets, public agencies, art, diplomacy, and the armed forces without reducing any of them to easy lessons.

Made for: For listeners interested in presidential history, public service, military policy, law, diplomacy, and leadership practice. It especially suits people who prefer careful context to quick opinion.

What sets it apart: The show anchors leadership questions in the George Washington Presidential Library’s historical frame while ranging across monarchy, presidents, courts, art, public agencies, and the military. Its best episodes turn institutional detail into practical civic insight.

In their own words

New from the Washington Presidential Library, Leadership and Legacy invites prominent leaders and historians to reflect on their growth, challenges, and innovative approaches that made them the leaders that they are today, as well as how these questions can be informed by the past — in particular the lessons and legacy of George Washington.

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Based on 6 episodes we listened to · August 2026

A historically grounded leadership show about governance, judgment, and institutional pressure for Business & Finance listeners.

Leadership and Legacy: Conversations at the George Washington Presidential Library belongs in the leadership corner of Business & Finance, closer to governance and institutional judgment than market analysis. Dr.

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Civics class, if you want the footnotes sharpened and the statues gently interrogated.

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  • presidential leadership judged by character, courage, and who actually had to make the call
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  1. 1

    221. Reading the Political Poetry of Hannah Lawrence Schieffelin with Dr. Kait Tonti

    ·55m
  2. 2

    Ronald Reagan and Pragmatic Leadership with Max Boot

    ·40m
  3. 3

    LIVE: The Military Today with John Kelly, Carlos Del Toro, and Kathleen Miller

    ·1h 2m
  4. 4

    LIVE: Civil-Military Relations with Kori Schake

    ·59m
  5. 5

    Revolutionary Artists with Zara Anishanslin

    ·48m
  6. 6

    Thomas Jefferson and Leadership with Frank Cogliano

    ·46m
  7. 7

    209. Reading Letters by Early American Women with Kathryn Gehred (Summer Repeat)

    ·1h 5m
  8. 8

    208. Harnessing Harmony in the Early Republic with Billy Coleman (Summer Repeat)

    ·1h 5m
  9. 9

    Leading in the Public and Private Sectors with Susan K Neely

    ·32m
  10. 10

    Core Pillars of Presidential Leadership with William Haldeman

    ·42m
  11. 11

    Summer Hiatus

    ·0m
  12. 12

    Learning from First Ladies with Anita McBride

    ·47m
  13. 13

    Revolutionary Leadership with Rick Atkinson

    ·43m
  14. 14

    Little Wolf and the American West with Megan Kate Nelson

    ·39m
  15. 15

    Historical Lessons of Leadership with Catherine Allgor

    ·38m
  16. 16

    The Power of Character with Jeffrey Engel

    ·39m
  17. 17

    Leadership on the Supreme Court with Steve Vladeck

    ·39m
  18. 18

    Leading in Times of Crisis with Michelle Korsmo

    ·41m
  19. 19

    Episode 2 Announcement

    ·0m
  20. 20

    A Balanced Republic with Dr. Yuval Levin

    ·49m
  21. 21

    The Civic Bargain with Brook Manville

    ·1h 3m
  22. 22

    Communication and the Digital Future with Dr. Colleen Shogan

    ·44m
  23. 23

    Learning from History with General David Petraeus and Andrew Roberts

    ·46m
  24. 24

    Service and Respect with General John Allen

    ·1h
  25. 25

    Integrity and Democracy with Representatives Steve Womack and Pat Ryan

    ·1h
  26. 26

    NOW AVAILABLE: Inventing the Presidency

    ·2m
  27. 27

    NOW AVAILABLE: The Secrets of Washington's Archives

    ·2m
  28. 28

    229. A Final Conversation with Dr. James Ambuske

    ·54m
  29. 29

    228. Editing the Adams Family Papers with Dr. Sara Georgini

    ·43m
  30. 30

    227. Welcoming a Deserving Brother with Mark Tabbert

    ·26m
  31. 31

    226. Cross-examining Washington's Heir with Prof. Gerard Magliocca

    ·43m
  32. 32

    225. Doing Public History with Dr. Anne Fertig

    ·27m
  33. 33

    224. Unpacking the Slave Empire with Dr. Padraic Scanlan

    ·40m
  34. 34

    223. Attending a Lecture on Female Genius with Dr. Mary Sarah Bilder

    ·42m
  35. 35

    Introducing Intertwined Stories: Finding Hercules Posey

    ·20m
  36. 36

    222. Winning a "Compleat Victory" at Saratoga with Dr. Kevin Weddle

    ·48m
  37. 37

    Law, Leadership and the Department of Justice with Elie Honig

    ·44m
  38. 38

    220. Educating Early Americans with Drs. Mark Boonshoft and Andrew O'Shaughnessy

    ·1h 4m
  39. 39

    219. Negotiating Federal-State Relations with Dr. Grace Mallon

    ·44m
  40. 40

    218. Finding Washington at the Plow with Dr. Bruce Ragsdale

    ·45m
  41. 41

    217. Exploring Star Territory with Dr. Gordon Fraser

    ·51m
  42. 42

    216. Digitally Deconstructing the Constitution with Dr. Nicholas Cole

    ·47m
  43. 43

    215. Reading Thomas Paine's Rights of Man with Dr. Frances Chiu

    ·27m
  44. 44

    Previewing Episode 1 of Intertwined: The Enslaved Community at George Washington's Mount Vernon

    ·42m
  45. 45

    Intertwined: The Enslaved Community at George Washington's Mount Vernon (Coming November 15, 2021)

    ·1m
  46. 46

    214. Weaponizing Settlement in Nova Scotia with Dr. Alexandra Montgomery

    ·47m
  47. 47

    213. Sailing to Freedom with Dr. Timothy D. Walker

    ·42m
  48. 48

    212. Recruiting the Hero of Two Worlds with Mike Duncan

    ·56m
  49. 49

    211. Revitalizing Myaamia Language and Culture with George Ironstrack (Summer Repeat)

    ·1h 11m
  50. 50

    210. Winning a Consolation Prize with Dr. Abby Mullen (Summer Repeat)

    ·50m
  51. 51

    207. Offering George Washington a Royal Gift with Professor José Emilio Yanes (Summer Repeat)

    ·40m
  52. 52

    206. Promoting Joseph Smith for President with Dr. Spencer W. McBride

    ·45m
  53. 53

    205. Grieving with the Widow Washington with Dr. Martha Saxton

    ·40m
  54. 54

    204. Raising Liberty Poles in the Early Republic with Dr. Shira Lurie

    ·38m
  55. 55

    202. Digitizing the Maryland Loyalist Experience with Dr. Kyle Roberts and Dr. Benjamin Bankhurst

    ·49m
  56. 56

    201. Uncovering the Virginia Loyalists with Drs. Stephanie Seal Walters and Alexi Garrett

    ·50m
  57. 57

    199. Unravelling the Strange Genius of Mr. O. with Dr. Carolyn Eastman

    ·52m
  58. 58

    198. Contesting Monuments and Memory in South Carolina with Dr. Lydia Brandt

    ·54m
  59. 59

    197. Stumbling Upon the Journal of Johann Peter Oettinger with Craig Koslofsky and Roberto Zaugg

    ·56m
  60. 60

    196. Reconstructing the Life of a German Barber-Surgeon in the Atlantic Slave Trade with Craig Koslofsky and Roberto Zaugg

    ·1h
  61. 61

    195b. [En Español] Ofreciendo a George Washington un regalo real con el profesor José Emilio Yanes

    ·30m
  62. 62

    195a. Offering George Washington a Royal Gift with Professor José Emilio Yanes

    ·43m
  63. 63

    194. Building Digital History Projects at the Washington Library with the ITPS Interns

    ·42m
  64. 64

    193. Rifling through Washington's Receipts with Dr. Julie Miller

    ·53m
  65. 65

    Throwing a Change-Up at the Washington Library with Jim Ambuske

    ·2m
  66. 66

    192. Drinking Washington's Whiskey with Drew Hannush

    ·45m
  67. 67

    191. (Recast) The Only Unavoidable Subject of Regret with Mary Thompson: Part 2

    ·40m
  68. 68

    190. (Recast) The Only Unavoidable Subject of Regret with Mary Thompson: Part 1

    ·32m
  69. 69

    189. Confronting an Absolutist Monarch with Dr. Karie Schultz

    ·49m
  70. 70

    188. Exploring the Benjamin Franklin House of London with Dr. Márcia Balisciano

    ·53m
  71. 71

    187. Winning a Consolation Prize with Dr. Abby Mullen

    ·50m
  72. 72

    186. Exploring New Frontiers in Early American History with Alexi Garrett, Michael Blaakman, Derek O’Leary, and Krysten Blackstone

    ·1h 35m
  73. 73

    185. Seeking a City of Refuge in the Great Dismal Swamp with Marcus P. Nevius

    ·53m
  74. 74

    184. Becoming Citizens of Convenience on the U.S.-Canadian Border with Lawrence B. A. Hatter

    ·48m
  75. 75

    183. Trading Spaces in the Colonial Marketplace with Emma Hart

    ·40m
  76. 76

    182. Recording an Oral History of the Obama Presidency with Evan D. McCormick

    ·1h 6m
  77. 77

    181. Electioneering Rage with Kelly Fleming

    ·45m
  78. 78

    2020 George Washington Symposium Announcement

    ·1m
  79. 79

    180. Reading Letters by Early American Women with Kathryn Gehred

    ·1h 5m
  80. 80

    179. Revitalizing Myaamia Language and Culture with George Ironstrack

    ·1h 11m
  81. 81

    178. Digitally Interning at the Washington Library with Jamie Morris

    ·32m
  82. 82

    177. Harnessing Harmony in the Early Republic with Billy Coleman

    ·1h 5m
  83. 83

    176. Hunting Satan in Scotland and the Atlantic World with Michelle D. Brock

    ·56m
  84. 84

    175. Finding Redemption from Tyranny with Bruce Stewart

    ·54m
  85. 85

    174. (Recast) Tracing the Rise and Fall of Light-Horse Harry Lee with Ryan Cole

    ·54m
  86. 86

    173. Tracing the History of the Syphax Family with Steve Hammond and Brenda Parker

    ·1h 6m
  87. 87

    172. Exploring White Women as Slave Owners in the American South with Stephanie Jones-Rogers

    ·1h 3m
  88. 88

    171. Reinterpreting Mary Ball Washington with Karin Wulf, Martha Saxton, Craig Shirley, and Charlene Boyer Lewis

    ·1h 11m
  89. 89

    170. Forging a Founding Partnership with Edward J. Larson

    ·1h 10m
  90. 90

    169. Re-investigating an Early American Murder with Jessica Lowe

    ·1h 4m
  91. 91

    168. Mining King George III's Papers with Zara Anishanslin and Arthur Burns

    ·1h 13m
  92. 92

    167. Reconstructing the Indian World of George Washington with Colin Calloway

    ·1h 10m
  93. 93

    166. Mobilizing the Will of the People with T. H. Breen

    ·1h 5m
  94. 94

    165. Facing the Long Year of Revolution with Mary Beth Norton

    ·1h 1m
  95. 95

    164. Battling Pirates of the Chesapeake Bay with Jamie L. H. Goodall

    ·59m
  96. 96

    163. Returning to Lives Bound Together on Juneteenth with Jessie MacLeod

    ·52m
  97. 97

    Suffrage and Black Women's Leadership with Martha Jones

    Dr.

    ·47m
  98. 98

    Leading Change with Carly Fiorina

    Dr.

    ·58m
  99. 99

    203. Planting the World of Plymouth Plantation with Dr. Carla Gardina Pestana

    Dr.

    ·44m
  100. 100

    200. Transcribing From The Page with Sara and Ben Brumfield

    Jim Ambuske interviews Sara and Ben Brumfield about their crowdsourcing transcription platform From the Page, used to transcribe historical documents like Mount Vernon's Harrison Dodge correspondence.

    ·50m
  101. 101

    George VI and Leadership with Sally Bedell Smith

    Hidden gem

    Sally Bedell Smith frames George VI as a constitutional monarch whose authority came from duty, restraint, and public service rather than executive power.

    Apr 14, 2026·52m·3 clips
  102. 102

    Law, Leadership and the Department of Justice with Elie Honig

    Hidden gem

    Elie Honig and Lindsay Chervinsky examine how the United States Department of Justice developed independence through norms rather than an explicit constitutional guarantee.

    Feb 3, 2026·44m·3 clips
  103. 103

    Ronald Reagan and Pragmatic Leadership with Max Boot

    Dr.

    Jan 14, 2026·40m
  104. 104

    LIVE: The Military Today with John Kelly, Carlos Del Toro, and Kathleen Miller

    Hidden gem

    At the George Washington Presidential Library's Mount Vernon symposium, the LIVE panel on the American military pairs John Kelly, Carlos del Toro, and Kathleen Miller with Lindsay Chervinsky moderating.

    Dec 23, 2025·1h 2m·4 clips
  105. 105

    LIVE: Civil-Military Relations with Kori Schake

    A live conversation at Mount Vernon's George Washington Symposium between Lindsay Chervinsky and Kori Schake about civil-military relations from George Washington to today.

    Dec 11, 2025·59m
  106. 106

    Revolutionary Artists with Zara Anishanslin

    Hidden gem

    Catherine Macaulay's portrait became prints and ceramic figurines marked "American Congress" in 1775.

    Nov 25, 2025·48m·2 clips
  107. 107

    Thomas Jefferson and Leadership with Frank Cogliano

    Hidden gem

    Jefferson's tombstone lists only the Declaration, religious freedom, and the University of Virginia.

    Nov 10, 2025·46m·2 clips
  108. 108

    Leading in the Public and Private Sectors with Susan K Neely

    Hidden gem

    Susan K.

    Sep 30, 2025·32m·2 clips
  109. 109

    Core Pillars of Presidential Leadership with William Haldeman

    Hidden gem

    Dr.

    Sep 15, 2025·42m·3 clips
  110. 110

    Learning from First Ladies with Anita McBride

    Jul 7, 2025·47m
  111. 111

    Revolutionary Leadership with Rick Atkinson

    Jun 23, 2025·43m
  112. 112

    Little Wolf and the American West with Megan Kate Nelson

    May 19, 2025·39m
  113. 113

    Suffrage and Black Women's Leadership with Martha Jones

    May 5, 2025·47m
  114. 114

    Historical Lessons of Leadership with Catherine Allgor

    Apr 21, 2025·38m
  115. 115

    The Power of Character with Jeffrey Engel

    Apr 7, 2025·39m
  116. 116

    Leadership on the Supreme Court with Steve Vladeck

    Mar 24, 2025·39m
  117. 117

    Leading in Times of Crisis with Michelle Korsmo

    Mar 10, 2025·41m
  118. 118

    A Balanced Republic with Dr. Yuval Levin

    Feb 17, 2025·49m
  119. 119

    The Civic Bargain with Brook Manville

    Nov 26, 2024·1h 3m
  120. 120

    Communication and the Digital Future with Dr. Colleen Shogan

    Nov 12, 2024·44m
  121. 121

    Learning from History with General David Petraeus and Andrew Roberts

    Oct 29, 2024·46m
  122. 122

    Service and Respect with General John Allen

    Oct 15, 2024·1h
  123. 123

    Integrity and Democracy with Representatives Steve Womack and Pat Ryan

    Oct 1, 2024·1h
  124. 124

    Leading Change with Carly Fiorina

    Sep 17, 2024·58m
  125. 125

    229. A Final Conversation with Dr. James Ambuske

    May 8, 2023·54m
  126. 126

    228. Editing the Adams Family Papers with Dr. Sara Georgini

    Nov 28, 2022·43m
  127. 127

    227. Welcoming a Deserving Brother with Mark Tabbert

    Nov 14, 2022·26m
  128. 128

    226. Cross-examining Washington's Heir with Prof. Gerard Magliocca

    Oct 31, 2022·43m
  129. 129

    225. Doing Public History with Dr. Anne Fertig

    Oct 17, 2022·27m
  130. 130

    224. Unpacking the Slave Empire with Dr. Padraic Scanlan

    Jun 25, 2022·40m
  131. 131

    223. Attending a Lecture on Female Genius with Dr. Mary Sarah Bilder

    May 19, 2022·42m
  132. 132

    Introducing Intertwined Stories: Finding Hercules Posey

    Apr 6, 2022·20m
  133. 133

    222. Winning a "Compleat Victory" at Saratoga with Dr. Kevin Weddle

    Mar 25, 2022·48m
  134. 134

    221. Reading the Political Poetry of Hannah Lawrence Schieffelin with Dr. Kait Tonti

    Mar 9, 2022·55m
  135. 135

    220. Educating Early Americans with Drs. Mark Boonshoft and Andrew O'Shaughnessy

    Feb 18, 2022·1h 4m
  136. 136

    219. Negotiating Federal-State Relations with Dr. Grace Mallon

    Feb 2, 2022·44m
  137. 137

    218. Finding Washington at the Plow with Dr. Bruce Ragsdale

    Jan 20, 2022·45m
  138. 138

    217. Exploring Star Territory with Dr. Gordon Fraser

    Jan 6, 2022·51m
  139. 139

    216. Digitally Deconstructing the Constitution with Dr. Nicholas Cole

    Dec 24, 2021·47m
  140. 140

    215. Reading Thomas Paine's Rights of Man with Dr. Frances Chiu

    Dec 2, 2021·27m
  141. 141

    Previewing Episode 1 of Intertwined: The Enslaved Community at George Washington's Mount Vernon

    Nov 17, 2021·42m
  142. 142

    214. Weaponizing Settlement in Nova Scotia with Dr. Alexandra Montgomery

    Nov 4, 2021·47m
  143. 143

    213. Sailing to Freedom with Dr. Timothy D. Walker

    Oct 23, 2021·42m
  144. 144

    212. Recruiting the Hero of Two Worlds with Mike Duncan

    Oct 7, 2021·56m
  145. 145

    211. Revitalizing Myaamia Language and Culture with George Ironstrack (Summer Repeat)

    George Ironstrack discusses the history of the Myaamia people and efforts to revitalize their language and culture through the Myaamia Center.

    Sep 22, 2021·1h 11m