Growth pushes pastors past solo leadership and toward shared authority.
This conversation frames growth as a test for pastoral leadership: it calls for a changed mindset, better systems, and a real willingness to lean on other people.

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Practical coaching for pastors under pressure.
Fly on the Wall Podcast With Chris Sonksen is built around recorded coaching conversations with pastors facing growth, team, money, succession, and retention problems. Its strength is plain-spoken diagnosis: what looks like a ministry issue often becomes a leadership, delegation, or values issue.
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Fly on the Wall Podcast With Chris Sonksen is a church leadership coaching show built around real conversations with pastors. Each episode starts with a concrete ministry pressure point. Growth is happening, but the leader’s thinking has not caught up. Volunteers are serving, but the church has not become a tribe. A pastor wants succession, but the next leader needs more than a title. The show’s pattern is brisk and practical: hear the problem, sharpen the diagnosis, name the leadership move, then push toward a next step. It is not especially interested in theory for its own sake. The recurring concern is what pastors actually do when the church gets larger, more complex, and harder to carry personally. Delegation becomes a question of authority, not just tasks. Leadership selection becomes a question of core values, not only skill. Retention becomes a question of connection speed and team culture, not just better programming. Money issues, first-time visitor flow, ministry starts and stops, and staff development all get treated as leadership problems with spiritual weight. The show also carries a clear Church Boom ecosystem around it, with frequent references to the Church Boom Network, Church Boom University, coaching plans, masterclasses, webinars, books, and pastor groups. That promotional frame is present, but the coaching conversations remain the center of gravity. Chris Sonksen’s style is warm, corrective, and direct, often using role play, lists, and repeated examples to make the point land. The result is best for pastors and church leaders who want plain counsel from someone speaking their ministry language. It is especially useful for leaders navigating momentum, team strain, succession questions, volunteer culture, and the uncomfortable shift from doing everything personally to building people who can lead with real authority.
Made for: Pastors, ministry leaders, and church staff who are managing growth, team development, volunteer culture, succession, and church health. It fits leaders who prefer direct coaching over polished inspiration.
What sets it apart: The show’s edge is its live coaching format, where a pastor’s specific problem becomes a broader leadership lesson. It blends ministry language with concrete operational advice on systems, delegation, values, and people development.
Be a “Fly on the Wall” as Chris Sonksen takes you behind the scenes on a coaching call with a ministry leader. In each episode, you’ll get to hear how a coaching call happens, practical tips on how to grow your ministry, and what it takes to be a healthy leader in today's culture. You'll get to be a "fly on the wall" and listen to a live coaching session between Chris and a church leader like yourself.
A real pastor brings the knot; Chris Sonksen helps you find the thread without pretending leadership is tidy.
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Short reviews from the PlayNext desk, based on the episodes we processed.
Growth pushes pastors past solo leadership and toward shared authority.
This conversation frames growth as a test for pastoral leadership: it calls for a changed mindset, better systems, and a real willingness to lean on other people.
Talent matters, but shared values and behavior decide whether someone fits the team.
It keeps the leadership question grounded in practical judgment rather than theory. Chris frames the problem around what to value in a leader when talent, loyalty, and values do not line up.
Succession is treated as stewardship, not sentiment.
The episode treats succession as stewardship: spotting possible leaders, building their capacity, and making room for a handoff with enough time to do it well. Its strongest note is the practical pressure behind that counsel.
Retention starts when volunteer leadership becomes a monthly practice of recruitment and connection.
Church growth is only the starting point here. The sharper question is what happens after people arrive, and the conversation follows the host as he coaches Sheldon, a pastor in Springfield, Missouri, toward a retention plan rooted in quicker volunteer engagement.






Chris Sonksen, CEO and founder of Church Boom, coaches Johnny on moving a church from attendance toward broader participation and multiplication.
Chris Songsten, CEO and founder of Church Boom, coaches Josh, who planted a church in Olathe, Kansas, in 2019, about identifying and retaining leaders.
Forrest Lucas, the self-made billionaire behind Lucas Oil, told Chris Sonksen at a Colts-Lions skybox game, "none of you ask me how I think." Pastor Greg of Dominion Church in League City, Texas, uses that line to ask Chris about his daily thinking habits, including four contrasts: activity over results, inspiration over motivation, investment over spending, and opportunity over opposition.
This episode features a coaching session where host Chris Sonkson discusses with pastor Adam the challenges and strategies for churches to reach their next level of growth, focusing on leadership and vision implementation.
New growth asks for new thinking.
Host Chris Sonksen coaches pastor Ryan on handling leadership pain and identifying the right leaders.
Chris Sonkson sits down with Joey for a live coaching conversation.
Chris Sonksen coaches Sheldon, a pastor in Springfield, Missouri, on retaining churchgoers after attendance, conversion, and baptism.
Chris Sonksen coaches a pastor on changes needed to take his ministry to the next level, while promoting a free coaching program for churches under 100.
A coaching session where Chris Sonksen advises a pastor on how to bring out the best in his team and maintain momentum in ministry.
A coaching session where host Chris Sonksen helps a pastor evaluate when to start or stop ministries in their church.
A pastor receives coaching on solving church money issues and developing leaders during a growth season.
Chris Sonksen coaches a pastor on increasing first-time visitor flow and discusses leading versus managing, with a win shared about a timely sermon on doubt.
A pastor receives coaching on preparing for the future in ministry, marriage, and family, including financial planning for retirement.
A coaching session where host Chris Sonksen helps a pastor differentiate his church in a crowded market.
This episode features a coaching session where the host discusses with a pastor how to transform volunteer teams into committed tribes to improve retention and engagement in church ministry.
A coaching session where Chris Sonksen discusses common mistakes pastors make in church leadership.
A pastor receives coaching on implementing significant changes in a church with a divided membership.