Cheers & Tiers: Design Leadership Tales Retold

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Design leadership, remembered table by table.

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Cheers & Tiers is an oral-history show about the people who built AIGA design communities across different places. Conversations move from leadership retreats and late-night jokes to practical lessons about mentorship, inclusion, design work, and staying connected.

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About Cheers & Tiers: Design Leadership Tales Retold

Cheers & Tiers is a warm oral history of AIGA design leadership, told through reunion-style conversations with the people who helped shape chapters, retreats, conferences, and creative communities. Rachel Elnor and Eric Cargill guide the show with an easy, teasing rhythm. The format is simple. Bring on longtime design leaders, ask when they got involved, and let the memories do the work. Those memories tend to sprawl in the best way, moving from board roles and chapter programs to hotel bars, dance floors, conference friendships, and the occasional human pyramid. The show is not a polished lecture series. It feels closer to sitting near a table of people who have known each other for years and are still surprised by what they remember together. Guests from Seattle, San Diego Tijuana, Upstate New York, San Francisco, Philadelphia, Colorado, and other AIGA circles talk about how community work becomes career infrastructure. They also talk about the personal side of leadership: imposter syndrome, saying yes before feeling ready, asking for help, and learning that generosity can be a real operating model. Design itself stays present but broad. Episodes touch on brand systems, typography, wayfinding, design operations, accessibility, data, public-sector design systems, creative workflows, and AI. The professional detail matters, yet the show keeps returning to relationships. Someone shares a roadmap. Someone copies a good idea with permission. Someone gets pulled into a board or a retreat and finds lifelong friends. The humor is relaxed and a little messy, with tech glitches, family jokes, and affectionate ribbing left in the room. That looseness is part of the record. Cheers & Tiers captures how design communities are actually built: through formal programs, yes, but also through late nights, repeated invitations, borrowed templates, and people willing to make space for the next person.

Made for: For designers, educators, community organizers, and AIGA veterans who enjoy candid stories about how creative leadership is learned. It also works for listeners curious about the social machinery behind design conferences, chapters, and volunteer boards.

What sets it apart: The show treats design history as lived memory rather than a highlight reel. Its strength is the mix of career detail, affectionate recall, and practical leadership lessons drawn from specific community moments.

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Cheers & Tiers welcomes you into a circle of design leaders whose bonds were forged during iconic AIGA design leadership retreats and conferences. These gatherings were more than just strategic sessions with the nation’s chapter leaders—they were moments of shared growth, laughter, and camaraderie that shaped careers and lives, blending organizational development with celebratory toasts and even the occasional human pyramid. Fellow design leaders Erik and Rachel as they reconnect with friends about shared experiences, memorable lessons, and transformative moments gleaned that defined this extraordinary group. Join us as we honor the relationships and memories that continue to shape desi...

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Based on 5 episodes we listened to · September 2026

Design veterans turn shared AIGA history into practical lessons about careers, organizational change, creative work, and community-led leadership.

Cheers & Tiers: Design Leadership Tales Retold turns conversations with AIGA veterans into an oral history of how designers learn to lead. Eric Cargill and Rachel Elnor ask guests about chapter roles and shared gatherings, then follow those memories toward the work of building…

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AIGA's human pyramids get the laughs; a shared program roadmap might give you an idea for your own chapter.

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  • to hear Eric and Rachel make room for you to lead before you feel ready
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Best episodes of Cheers & Tiers: Design Leadership Tales Retold

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030: Terry Marks & Brien Thompson of AIGA SeattleApr 8, 2026

A warm season 2 finale about design leadership as community work.

Brian Thompson and Terry Marks give the season 2 finale a grounded look at a Seattle design community held together by long relationships and repeat contact.

029: Amy Jo Levine & MaeLin Levine of AIGA San Diego TijuanaMar 25, 2026

Design leadership here means community memory, patient institutions, and showing up over time.

May Lynn Levine and Amy Jo Levine frame design leadership as patient, communal work rather than a solo performance. Through Visual Asylum, AIGA San Diego, the Y Conference, Urban Discovery Schools, and the bid that helped San Diego Tijuana win World Design Capital 2024, the…

028: Rebecca Mushtare & Doug Bartow of AIGA Upstate New YorkMar 3, 2026

A steady conversation about design leadership, public systems, and why tools never replace judgment.

Rebecca Mushtare and Doug Bartow treat design leadership as something that has to hold up inside public systems, accessibility demands, and institutional constraints.

027: Amy Gustincic & Jay Ganaden of AIGA San FranciscoFeb 7, 2026

An AIGA San Francisco memory piece built from board roles, late nights, and a Portland walk in search of one more open bar.

This episode looks back at Amy and Jay's AIGA San Francisco years through board service, programming, dinners, bars, late hotel hours, human pyramids, and a Portland walk in search of a bar still open.

016: Leadership Lessons from Season 1 with Erik & RachelJun 28, 2025

A reflective season closer that treats leadership as communal, messy, and learned in public.

Season 1 closes by treating leadership less like a polished skill and more like something people stumble into together. Eric and Rachel look back across the season and pull out a few steady threads from the 15 episodes: imposter syndrome, asking for help, and the sense that the…

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Episodes

  1. 1

    030: Terry Marks & Brien Thompson of AIGA Seattle

    Hidden gem

    Seattle design memory takes the wheel.

    Apr 8, 2026·59m·4 clips
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    029: Amy Jo Levine & MaeLin Levine of AIGA San Diego Tijuana

    Hidden gem

    May Lynn Levine and Amy Jo Levine sit down with Eric Cargill and Rachel Elnar.

    Mar 25, 2026·51m·5 clips
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    028: Rebecca Mushtare & Doug Bartow of AIGA Upstate New York

    Hidden gem

    Rebecca Mushtare and Doug Bartow look back on AIGA leadership and the 2016 retreat in Raleigh.

    Mar 3, 2026·48m·3 clips
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    027: Amy Gustincic & Jay Ganaden of AIGA San Francisco

    Hidden gem

    It starts with a reset.

    Feb 7, 2026·51m·3 clips
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    026: Allan Espiritu & Nick Prestileo of AIGA Philadelphia

    This episode features an interview with Allan Espiritu and Nick Prestileo, two prominent Philadelphia design leaders and former AIGA Philadelphia presidents, discussing their backgrounds and experiences in design education and community leadership.

    Jan 17, 2026·50m
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    025: Debbie Millman & Michael Bierut of AIGA New York

    Dec 20, 2025·55m
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    024: Carlos Estrada of AIGA Detroit & Oen Michael Hammonds of AIGA Austin

    Dec 6, 2025·56m
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    023: Carolyn Colonna & Taylor Nall of AIGA Charlotte

    Nov 8, 2025·48m
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    022: Jenn Visocky O’Grady of AIGA Cleveland & Justin Ahrens of AIGA Arizona and Chicago

    Oct 18, 2025·51m
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    021: Laurel Webster & James Hersick of AIGA Blue Ridge

    Sep 30, 2025·45m
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    020: Kevin Berger & Aaron Shurts of AIGA Seattle

    Sep 13, 2025·48m
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    019: Karen Kurycki & Varick Rosete of AIGA Jacksonville

    Aug 30, 2025·47m
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    018: Michele Cooper & Kelly Holohan of AIGA Philadelphia

    Aug 16, 2025·49m
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    017: Jenny Price & Seth Johnson of AIGA Minneapolis

    Aug 2, 2025·55m
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    016: Leadership Lessons from Season 1 with Erik & Rachel

    Hidden gem

    Cheers & Tears: Design Leadership Tales Retold episode 016 turns 15 Season 1 transcripts into six named lessons about AIGA leadership, community, and mentorship.

    Jun 28, 2025·34m·2 clips
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    015: Kristine Johnson of AIGA Seattle

    Jun 21, 2025·35m
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    014: Bernardo Marguils of AIGA Philadelphia

    Jun 14, 2025·42m
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    013: Gage Mitchell of AIGA Seattle and more

    Jun 7, 2025·55m
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    012: Victor Davila of AIGA Orlando

    May 24, 2025·45m
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    011: Wendy Quesinberry of AIGA Seattle

    May 17, 2025·40m
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    010: Frances Yllana of AIGA Dallas/Fort Worth

    May 10, 2025·38m
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    009: Brian Singer of AIGA San Francisco

    This episode features an interview with Brian Singer, a San Francisco-based artist and designer, discussing his career, projects like the 1,000 Journals Project, and his leadership roles in design communities.

    May 3, 2025·33m
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    008: Ashleigh Axios of AIGA DC

    Apr 26, 2025·37m
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    007: Elysia Syriac of AIGA Colorado

    This episode features an interview with Elysia Syriac, an experienced designer and AIGA Colorado board member, discussing her journey in design operations, community building, and her work at Amazon Design.

    Apr 19, 2025·43m
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    006: Mike Joosse, AIGA Director of Chapter Development

    Apr 12, 2025·39m
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    005: David Jon Walker of AIGA Nashville

    This episode features an interview with David Jon Walker, a Black art director, type designer, and Yale professor, discussing his AIGA chapter experience and design leadership journey.

    Apr 5, 2025·32m
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    004: Paul Mendoza of AIGA Los Angeles

    Mar 29, 2025·33m
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    003: Christine Sheller of AIGA Philadelphia

    This episode features an interview with Christine Sheller, a design leader and former AIGA Philadelphia president, discussing her career in UX design and education.

    Mar 22, 2025·38m
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    002: Josh Silverman of AIGA Rhode Island

    Mar 15, 2025·38m
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    001: Amanda Hovest of AIGA Los Angeles

    Mar 1, 2025·28m
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    000: Grab Your Name Tag and Join Us For Cheers & Tiers

    Feb 25, 2025·3m