Case Files with Kat and Ashley

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One friend tells the case. The other asks why.

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Case Files with Kat and Ashley trades off who brings the case: one reads a researched script on a murder, disappearance or con, and the other cuts in with questions and gut reactions. Openings wander through beer, cats and tiring weeks before the story starts, and most closings end on 'see something, say something.'

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About Case Files with Kat and Ashley

Case Files with Kat and Ashley is two friends, one case, and a lot of commentary in between. The structure is a handoff. Whoever brings the case has researched and scripted it, and the other hears it cold, reacting in real time and asking the questions an outsider would ask. They take turns at the script: publisher notes credit Ashley with cases such as Asha Degree, Karlie Guse and the Short family, and Kat with Ed Gein, Brenda Andrew and Ken McElroy of Skidmore. That exchange matters to them. When a faulty recording card cost them large chunks of an episode, the plan was to re-record with Sarah sitting in, rather than have one of them reread a script to someone who already knew the ending. The range of cases is wide. Titles run from 'Where is Timmothy Pitzen?' and 'The Disappearance of Jodi Sue Huisentruit' to 'Deadly Divorce: The Dan Markel Case', 'Folie à Deux: The Eriksson Twins' and 'From Model to Manipulator: The Kat Torres Story'. Killers whose crimes fed horror films sit next to bigamists, murder-for-hire plots and spiritual and wellness figures. What ties much of it together is attention to where investigations faltered. In the Short family case, the telling turns on men later convicted of lying to tie an early suspect to the crime, a detour believed to have cost the case dearly. On Jodi Sue Huisentruit, the pair weigh a retiring state representative's suggestion of a cover-up and a retiring police chief who held on to a journal. On Karlie Guse, the shifting accounts of a father, stepmother and mother are set against a private investigator's list of steps the sheriff's office skipped. The opinions are blunt. Openings run loose, with beer from local breweries, a cat named Louie and his unimpressed expression, upcoming surgeries and tired weeks all getting airtime before the case begins. The language is unfiltered, and nobody is precious about stumbles: a tangled name earns an apology and the story keeps moving. Underneath the chatter sits real care. Cases close with where to send information, sometimes with a reward figure attached, and the pair are open about hoping families at least learn where a loved one is. Story ideas are invited, and 'Disappearance of Phylicia Thomas' came from a listener suggestion. That episode makes a strong first stop: a woman vanishes while trying to solve a friend's disappearance, her mother builds files of notes, maps and witness accounts, and the closing becomes a plea to call for help when someone is in danger. The sign-off most often lands in the same place: see something, say something.

Made for: Suits a listener who likes true crime told as a conversation between friends, with researched case detail broken up by gut reactions, side chat and pointed questions about how police handled things. Less of a fit for someone who wants solemn, uninterrupted narration.

What sets it apart: The handoff does the work: one friend carries a scripted case while the other hears it fresh, so doubts, interruptions and judgments land in real time. Add frank criticism of stalled investigations and casual life talk at the edges, and it plays more like sitting in on a conversation than hearing a report.

In their own words

Join us each week as we discuss alcoholic beverages, our chaotic lives and do deep dives into stories involving true crime, unsolved mysteries, disappearances, murder and the paranormal. Come explore the dark side of humanity!

Why you'd press play

Kat and Ashley catch the 'school on Saturday' detail before you can settle on a theory.

Press play if you want

  • to hear conflicting accounts tested against small details that are easy to miss
  • to sit with an unresolved disappearance without being handed a tidy answer
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S. 8 Episode 17: Who Killed the Short Family?Mar 26, 2026

A careful look at witness accounts gives the Gary Bowman thread its weight.

The Short Family case unfolds around Jennifer's abduction and the murders at the Short home, with the investigation narrowing toward Gary Bowman, a carpenter who lived near where Jennifer's body was found.

S. 8 Episode 14: Disappearance of Phylicia ThomasMar 24, 2026

A disputed witness account turns Felicia's disappearance into a story about evidence, silence, and the cost of not calling for help.

Felicia's disappearance is framed through Judy Pauline's disputed reconstruction of what witnesses said happened at a party: Felicia being led into a bedroom, screams, a camera carried inside, and guests allegedly seeing her wrapped in a blanket before she was taken away and…

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  1. 1

    S. 8 Ep. 18: Fostered Then Killed: The Murder of Lisa Knoefel

    Apr 9, 2026·1h 2m
  2. 2

    S. 8 Episode 16: The Ritter Family Tragedy: A Rejection That Turned Deadly

    The hosts chat about their chaotic lives and exhaustion before introducing their true crime and mystery deep dives.

    Mar 26, 2026·40m
  3. 3

    S. 8 Episode 17: Who Killed the Short Family?

    Hidden gem

    Case Files with Kat and Ashley follows the August 15, 2002 shootings of Michael and Mary Short and the abduction of their 9-year-old daughter Jennifer from Oak Level, Virginia.

    Mar 26, 2026·53m·3 clips
  4. 4

    S. 8 Episode 14: Disappearance of Phylicia Thomas

    Hidden gem

    Case Files with Kat and Ashley centers on Katie's tip about Felicia Albina Thomas and Jennifer Barzillski, two missing women tied to Edwardsville, Lake Township, Lehman Township, and Hunlock Township, Pennsylvania.

    Mar 24, 2026·44m·3 clips
  5. 5

    S. 8 Episode 15: Skidmore’s Secret: The Killing of Ken McElroy

    The hosts engage in casual banter about aging and generational differences before diving into a true crime case.

    Mar 13, 2026·1h 3m
  6. 6

    S. 8 Episode 13: Brenda Andrew: Faith, Betrayal, & Murder

    Feb 19, 2026·1h 9m
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    S. 8 Episode 12: Folie à Deux: The Eriksson Twins

    Feb 12, 2026·1h 2m
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    S. 8 Episode 11: Watched, Controlled, Silenced: The Murder of Dominique ‘Nique’ Leili

    Jan 29, 2026·1h 12m
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    S. 8 Episode 10: Amber Hagerman's Legacy: The Story Behind the AMBER Alert

    Jan 15, 2026·1h
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    S. 8 Episode 9: Consent Is Complicated: The OneTaste Story

    Jan 1, 2026·1h 18m
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    S. 8 Episode 8: The Disappearance of Brian Shaffer

    Dec 27, 2025·1h 2m
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    S. 8 Episode 7: The Butcher of Plainfield – The Ed Gein Story Part 2

    Dec 19, 2025·44m
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    S. 8 Episode 6: The Butcher of Plainfield – The Ed Gein Story Part 1

    Dec 5, 2025·54m
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    S. 8 Episode 5: The Disappearance of Jodi Sue Huisentruit

    Jodi Sue Huisentruit vanished from Mason City, Iowa, on June 27, 1995, after telling a colleague she had overslept and was heading to KIMT.

    Nov 27, 2025·1h 7m·2 clips
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    S. 8 Episode 4: Fear, Confusion, and the Vanishing of Karlie Guse

    Case Files with Kat and Ashley examines Karlie Guse's October 13, 2018 disappearance after a reported drug-related panic episode in Shalefont, California.

    Oct 31, 2025·1h 2m·2 clips
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    S. 8 Episode 3: The Monster in the Basement: Gary Heidnik's House of Horrors

    Oct 15, 2025·55m
  17. 17

    S. 8 Episode 2: Vanished on Valentine’s: The 25 Year Mystery of Asha Degree

    Asha Degree disappeared from her North Carolina home between 3:45 and 4:15 a.m.

    Oct 9, 2025·1h·2 clips
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    S. 8 Episode 1: Thomas Randolph: Love, Lies, and Life Insurance

    Oct 2, 2025·57m
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    S. 7 Episode 30: Deadly Divorce: The Dan Markel Case

    May 29, 2025·1h
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    S. 7 Episode 29: Michael Bruce Ross a.k.a. The Roadside Strangler

    May 22, 2025·1h 25m
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    S. 7 Episode 28: Teal Swan: Spiritual Catalyst or Cult Leader?

    May 15, 2025·1h 27m
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    S. 7 Episode 27: Where is Timmothy Pitzen?

    May 2, 2025·47m
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    S. 7 Episode 26: From Model to Manipulator: The Kat Torres Story

    Apr 24, 2025·1h 15m
  24. 24

    S. 7 Episode 25: The Murders of Brandon Rumbaug and Lisa Gurrieri

    Apr 21, 2025·53m
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    S. 7 Episode 24: William Allen Jordan: Bigamist, Conman, and the Women Who Took Him Down

    Apr 3, 2025·1h 14m
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    S. 7 Episode 23: The Dissappearance of Bethany Markowski

    Mar 20, 2025·50m
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    S. 7 Episode 22: Bad Actors: Dan Wozniak and Rachel Buffett

    Mar 13, 2025·1h 9m
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    S. 7 Episode 21: Gone Too Soon: The Brittany Willis Story

    Mar 6, 2025·47m
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    S. 7 Episode 20: Scott Kimball - The Conman Who Fooled the FBI

    Feb 28, 2025·1h 10m
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    S. 7 Episode 19: The Springfield Three

    Feb 7, 2025·1h 20m
  31. 31

    S. 7 Episode 18: Timothy Bliefnick, the Family Feud Killer

    Jan 30, 2025·1h 6m
  32. 32

    S. 7 Episode 17: T. Cullen Davis: Money, Murder, and Misjustice - Pt. 2

    Jan 24, 2025·58m
  33. 33

    S. 7 Episode 16: T. Cullen Davis: Money, Murder, and Misjustice - Pt. 1

    Jan 17, 2025·1h 18m
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    S. 7 Episode 15- The Disappearance of Suzanne Lyall

    Jan 10, 2025·1h 16m
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    S. 7 Episode 14 - The Unsolved Christmas Mystery of the Sodder Children

    Dec 19, 2024·1h 3m
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    S. 7 Episdoe 13- Who was Ronald T. Owen?

    Dec 12, 2024·1h 19m
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    S. 7 Episode 12 - A Thanksgiving Day Massacre

    Nov 22, 2024·59m
  38. 38

    S. 7 Episode 11: The Unsolved Murder of David Grubbs

    Nov 14, 2024·52m
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    S. 7 Ep. 10 - Part 2: The Bamber White House Farm Murders

    Nov 8, 2024·46m
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    S. 7 Episode 9: The Man Who Killed Halloween

    Oct 31, 2024·41m
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    S. 7 Episode 8: The Bamber White House Farm Murders

    Oct 25, 2024·1h 13m
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    S. 7 Episode 7: Susan Walters and Her Story of Survival

    Oct 3, 2024·49m
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    S. 7 Episode 6: Behind the Screen: The Very Real Threat of Cyberstalking

    Sep 26, 2024·1h 29m
  44. 44

    S. 7 Episode 5: The Henryetta Sleepover Massacre Part 2

    Sep 12, 2024·1h 3m
  45. 45

    S. 7- Episode 4: The Henryetta Sleepover Massacre Part 1

    Sep 5, 2024·1h 16m
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    S. 7 Episode 3 - The Gilgo Beach Serial Killer - Part 2

    The hosts introduce the show, discuss their drinks, and set up a deep dive into a true crime story, referencing another podcast for more details.

    Aug 29, 2024·1h 27m
  47. 47

    S. 7 Episode 2 - The Gilgo Beach Serial Killer - Part 1

    Aug 21, 2024·2h 4m
  48. 48

    S. 7 Episode 1- Barn of Horrors and the Murder of Sierah Joughim

    Aug 15, 2024·1h 8m
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    S. 6 Episode 40 - Mary Anne Holmes: The Unsolved Tragedy

    The hosts chat about their week and bad vibes before diving into true crime and mystery cases.

    Aug 12, 2024·59m
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    S. 6 Episode 39- The Disappearance of Christopher Thompkins

    The hosts introduce themselves and discuss their drinks before diving into a true crime case.

    Aug 1, 2024·1h