
Capitalism, tested against power.
The gist
Capitalisn't treats capitalism as a system built by people, rules, incentives, and institutions. Recent episodes test familiar market stories against college debt, wage stagnation, Adam Smith, antitrust, courts, private law, and betting apps.
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About Capitalisn't
Capitalisn't is an economics show with a political spine and a legal memory. It treats capitalism as something built, maintained, distorted, and occasionally repaired by institutions. The central question is rarely whether markets are good or bad. The more interesting question is who shapes the market, who benefits from the rules, and who gets told that the rules are natural. Recent episodes have examined whether the college promise still holds once debt and generational decline in returns are included. They have looked at wage stagnation through monopsony power, worker mobility, slack labor markets, and the survival of firms that depend on low pay. Adam Smith appears not as a cardboard symbol of the invisible hand, but as a thinker concerned with morality, power, institutions, and the human relationships inside economic life. Technology is treated with the same suspicion of inevitability. Progress can stall, and antitrust, diffusion, state capacity, and corporate power all matter to whether innovation benefits the public. The show also spends serious time on law. Supreme Court independence, judicial overreach, private law, constitutional constraints, corporate liability, and the legal coding of inequality are framed as economic questions, not side issues. Its episode on betting apps fits the same pattern: data, incentives, addiction risk, and profit concentration are analyzed as market design choices. The conversation can be wonky. It can also be blunt. Capitalisn't is strongest when it connects technical mechanisms to moral stakes without pretending the fixes are easy. It suits listeners who want economics that names power, checks assumptions, and keeps asking whether capitalism is serving the society around it.
Made for: For listeners who like economics, law, policy, and institutional history argued with rigor. It especially suits people skeptical of simple market stories and simple anti-market stories alike.
What sets it apart: Capitalisn't connects economic theory to the legal and political machinery that makes markets possible. Its edge is the habit of asking who wrote the rules before debating whether the market worked.
In their own words
We investigate how capitalism is—or more often isn’t—working in our world today.Hosted by economist Luigi Zingales and business journalist Bethany McLean, our podcast explains why capitalism can go wrong and what we can do to fix it.Send us your questions or comments by emailing [email protected] photo attributions: https://www.chicagobooth.edu/research/stigler/about/capitalisnt.
As heard by us
Based on 6 episodes we listened to · September 2026
Capitalisn't makes the rules behind markets legible, connecting economic outcomes to corporate incentives, legal structures and political power.
Capitalisn't treats markets as designed systems, tracing how law, corporate incentives and political power determine who captures the gains and absorbs the losses.
Why you'd press play
Capitalisn't makes you wonder who profits when a betting app can spot trouble in your deposits.
Press play if you want
- to hear Bethany McLean and Luigi Zingales question what betting companies do with the warning signs they can see
- to have your tidy tax fairness argument complicated by wealth that never shows up as income
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Episodes
- 1
Is The College Promise Broken? - ft. Noam Scheiber
Hidden gemCapitalisn't's 'Is The College Promise Broken?
Apr 16, 2026·41m·2 clips - 2
The Real Cause Of Wage Stagnation - ft. Arin Dube
Hidden gemEconomist Arin Dube explains how monopsony power in labor markets causes wage stagnation despite productivity growth.
Apr 2, 2026·48m·2 clips - 3
Is Everyone Getting Adam Smith Wrong? - ft. Glory Liu
Hidden gemGlory Liu discusses how Adam Smith's nuanced views on capitalism, inequality, and government intervention have been oversimplified into the slogan of the invisible hand.
Mar 26, 2026·31m·2 clips - 4
Why Human Progress Is Not Inevitable - ft. Carl Frey
Carl Frey discusses why technological progress is not inevitable and can stall due to institutional failures.
Mar 12, 2026·42m·2 clips - 5
The Hidden Economic Dangers Of Supreme Court Overreach - ft. Steve Vladeck
Bethany McLean and Luigi Zingales discuss the economic dangers of Supreme Court overreach with guest Steve Vladeck.
Mar 5, 2026·50m - 6
Adam Smith In The Age of The “Epstein Class” - ft. MP Jesse Norman
Hidden gemBethany McLean and Luigi Zingales frame Capitalisn't around Adam Smith, Jeffrey Epstein, and the legitimacy of markets, with guest Jesse Norman joining after Bethany misses the snowy New York recording.
Feb 26, 2026·56m·3 clips - 7
How Inequality Distorts the Law - ft. Katharina Pistor
Hidden gemCapitalisn't speaks with Columbia Law Professor Katerina Pistor about her argument that capitalism depends on a legal code, not just markets, and that private law determines who gets rich, who stays poor, and who can skip the rules.
Feb 19, 2026·49m·3 clips - 8
Are Betting Apps Engineered for Addiction? - ft. Jonathan Cohen
Hidden gemBethany McLean and Luigi Zingales talk with Jonathan Cohen, author of "Losing Big: America’s Reckless Bet on Sports Gambling," about why legal sports betting spread so fast after PASPA ended state restrictions in 2018.
Feb 5, 2026·57m·3 clips - 9
Can We Build a Middle Class Without Factories? - ft. Dani Rodrik
Jan 22, 2026·42m - 10
Who Should The Fed Answer To? - ft. Sir Paul Tucker
Jan 15, 2026·53m - 11
How To Fix The American Tax System - ft. Ray Madoff
Hidden gemRay Madoff says the headline claim that the top 1% pay 40% of taxes confuses high income earners with high wealth owners who can report no income at all.
Jan 6, 2026·55m·4 clips - 12
How Capitalism Became Global ft. Sven Beckert
Dec 18, 2025·53m - 13
How to Stop “Ensh*ttification” Before It Kills the Internet - ft. Cory Doctorow
Dec 11, 2025·56m - 14
Why Matthew Yglesias Is Skeptical Of Anti-Monopoly Policies
Dec 4, 2025·58m - 15
Are Big Tech’s Regulators “Cowards”? ft. Tim Wu
Nov 20, 2025·1h 2m - 16
Why Economists Should Care About Inequality, with Branko Milanovic
Nov 6, 2025·47m - 17
Nobel Economist Reveals Why Economic Models Keep Failing Us, ft. Richard Thaler
Oct 30, 2025·46m - 18
What Everyone’s Getting Wrong About AI, with Arvind Narayanan
Oct 16, 2025·49m - 19
Why Capitalism Stopped Working In Japan, with Takeo Hoshi
Oct 2, 2025·48m - 20
How Profit and Politics Hijacked Scientific Inquiry, with John Ioannidis
Sep 18, 2025·48m - 21
Will Privatizing The Mortgage Giants Solve The Housing Crisis?
Sep 4, 2025·45m - 22
Trump's Great Private Equity Bailout, with Dan Rasmussen
Aug 21, 2025·54m - 23
Should Chatbots Teach Our Children? With Khan Academy CEO Sal Khan
Aug 7, 2025·45m - 24
Can The Dollar Be Dethroned?, with Ken Rogoff
Jul 24, 2025·58m - 25
Revealing the Secret Architects of Capitalism, with Chris Hughes
Jul 10, 2025·49m - 26
How The Democrats Lost Labor And Found Capital, with David Sirota
Jun 26, 2025·50m - 27
Why Cliff Asness Believes Markets Are Getting Dumber
Jun 12, 2025·51m - 28
How Democrats Forgot To Be Normal, with Joan Williams
May 29, 2025·44m - 29
Lina Khan's Vision of Capitalism
May 15, 2025·48m - 30
The Economics of Law Firms’ Resistance to Trump, with John Morley
May 1, 2025·48m - 31
Profit or Purpose? OpenAI's $300 Billion Question, with Rose Chan Loui
Apr 17, 2025·48m - 32
Is Silicon Valley Turning Fascist?
Apr 3, 2025·38m - 33
Why Trump Is Deregulating In The Wrong Way, with Sam Peltzman
Mar 20, 2025·45m - 34
Trump’s War on Universities, with Nicholas Dirks
Mar 6, 2025·50m - 35
Did NIMBYs Kill the American Dream?, with Yoni Appelbaum
Feb 20, 2025·45m - 36
Can AI Even Be Regulated?, with Sendhil Mullainathan
Feb 13, 2025·50m - 37
Why This Nobel Economist Thinks Bitcoin Is Going to Zero, with Eugene Fama
Bethany McLean and Luigi Zingales discuss the launch of Trump and Melania's cryptocurrencies and Eugene Fama's view that Bitcoin will go to zero.
Jan 30, 2025·45m - 38
Should Companies Have A Social Responsibility To Be “Great Businesses”?, with John Kay
Jan 16, 2025·47m - 39
How Big Money Changed The Democratic Game, with Daniel Ziblatt
Daniel Ziblatt discusses how big money distorts politics and democracy, focusing on the interaction between capitalism and democratic systems.
Jan 2, 2025·50m - 40
America’s Addiction to Easy Money, with Ruchir Sharma
Ruchir Sharma discusses how the Fed's easy money policies have created a culture of avoiding pain, leading to problems like inequality and low productivity.
Dec 19, 2024·49m - 41
The Argentinian DOGE
Dec 5, 2024·48m - 42
The Fertility Crisis: Capitalism's Next Challenge, with Sir Niall Ferguson
Bethany McLean and Luigi Zingales discuss the global fertility crisis with historian Niall Ferguson, exploring its implications for capitalism and society.
Nov 21, 2024·46m - 43
Visa's Hidden Tax on Americans
Nov 7, 2024·47m - 44
How Lobbying Led to Crony Capitalism, with Brody Mullins
Oct 24, 2024·43m - 45
Mailbag: UBI, AI, and Does Luigi Believe in "Free Time"?
Oct 10, 2024·38m - 46
Harris vs. Trump: Economics Beyond The "Vibes"
Oct 3, 2024·41m - 47
Can Democracy Coexist With Big Tech? with Marietje Schaake
Sep 26, 2024·45m - 48
Universities and Politics: Should They Mix? with Hanna Gray
Sep 12, 2024·47m - 49
Raj Chetty's Surprising New Insights On How Children Succeed
Aug 29, 2024·51m - 50
The End of Google As We Know It?
Aug 15, 2024·51m