Capitalisn't

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Capitalism, tested against power.

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Capitalisn't treats capitalism as a system built by people, rules, incentives, and institutions. Recent episodes test familiar market stories against college debt, wage stagnation, Adam Smith, antitrust, courts, private law, and betting apps.

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About Capitalisn't

Capitalisn't is an economics show with a political spine and a legal memory. It treats capitalism as something built, maintained, distorted, and occasionally repaired by institutions. The central question is rarely whether markets are good or bad. The more interesting question is who shapes the market, who benefits from the rules, and who gets told that the rules are natural. Recent episodes have examined whether the college promise still holds once debt and generational decline in returns are included. They have looked at wage stagnation through monopsony power, worker mobility, slack labor markets, and the survival of firms that depend on low pay. Adam Smith appears not as a cardboard symbol of the invisible hand, but as a thinker concerned with morality, power, institutions, and the human relationships inside economic life. Technology is treated with the same suspicion of inevitability. Progress can stall, and antitrust, diffusion, state capacity, and corporate power all matter to whether innovation benefits the public. The show also spends serious time on law. Supreme Court independence, judicial overreach, private law, constitutional constraints, corporate liability, and the legal coding of inequality are framed as economic questions, not side issues. Its episode on betting apps fits the same pattern: data, incentives, addiction risk, and profit concentration are analyzed as market design choices. The conversation can be wonky. It can also be blunt. Capitalisn't is strongest when it connects technical mechanisms to moral stakes without pretending the fixes are easy. It suits listeners who want economics that names power, checks assumptions, and keeps asking whether capitalism is serving the society around it.

Made for: For listeners who like economics, law, policy, and institutional history argued with rigor. It especially suits people skeptical of simple market stories and simple anti-market stories alike.

What sets it apart: Capitalisn't connects economic theory to the legal and political machinery that makes markets possible. Its edge is the habit of asking who wrote the rules before debating whether the market worked.

In their own words

We investigate how capitalism is—or more often isn’t—working in our world today.Hosted by economist Luigi Zingales and business journalist Bethany McLean, our podcast explains why capitalism can go wrong and what we can do to fix it.Send us your questions or comments by emailing [email protected] photo attributions: https://www.chicagobooth.edu/research/stigler/about/capitalisnt.

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Based on 6 episodes we listened to · September 2026

Capitalisn't makes the rules behind markets legible, connecting economic outcomes to corporate incentives, legal structures and political power.

Capitalisn't treats markets as designed systems, tracing how law, corporate incentives and political power determine who captures the gains and absorbs the losses.

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Capitalisn't makes you wonder who profits when a betting app can spot trouble in your deposits.

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  • to hear Bethany McLean and Luigi Zingales question what betting companies do with the warning signs they can see
  • to have your tidy tax fairness argument complicated by wealth that never shows up as income
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capitalism and institutional powerwage stagnation and labor marketscollege debt and economic mobilityAdam Smith and moral economicsantitrust and technological progressSupreme Court legitimacyprivate law and inequalitysports betting and addiction risk

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  1. 1

    Is The College Promise Broken? - ft. Noam Scheiber

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    Capitalisn't's 'Is The College Promise Broken?

    Apr 16, 2026·41m·2 clips
  2. 2

    The Real Cause Of Wage Stagnation - ft. Arin Dube

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    Economist Arin Dube explains how monopsony power in labor markets causes wage stagnation despite productivity growth.

    Apr 2, 2026·48m·2 clips
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    Is Everyone Getting Adam Smith Wrong? - ft. Glory Liu

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    Glory Liu discusses how Adam Smith's nuanced views on capitalism, inequality, and government intervention have been oversimplified into the slogan of the invisible hand.

    Mar 26, 2026·31m·2 clips
  4. 4

    Why Human Progress Is Not Inevitable - ft. Carl Frey

    Carl Frey discusses why technological progress is not inevitable and can stall due to institutional failures.

    Mar 12, 2026·42m·2 clips
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    The Hidden Economic Dangers Of Supreme Court Overreach - ft. Steve Vladeck

    Bethany McLean and Luigi Zingales discuss the economic dangers of Supreme Court overreach with guest Steve Vladeck.

    Mar 5, 2026·50m
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    Adam Smith In The Age of The “Epstein Class” - ft. MP Jesse Norman

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    Bethany McLean and Luigi Zingales frame Capitalisn't around Adam Smith, Jeffrey Epstein, and the legitimacy of markets, with guest Jesse Norman joining after Bethany misses the snowy New York recording.

    Feb 26, 2026·56m·3 clips
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    How Inequality Distorts the Law - ft. Katharina Pistor

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    Capitalisn't speaks with Columbia Law Professor Katerina Pistor about her argument that capitalism depends on a legal code, not just markets, and that private law determines who gets rich, who stays poor, and who can skip the rules.

    Feb 19, 2026·49m·3 clips
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    Are Betting Apps Engineered for Addiction? - ft. Jonathan Cohen

    Hidden gem

    Bethany McLean and Luigi Zingales talk with Jonathan Cohen, author of "Losing Big: America’s Reckless Bet on Sports Gambling," about why legal sports betting spread so fast after PASPA ended state restrictions in 2018.

    Feb 5, 2026·57m·3 clips
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    Can We Build a Middle Class Without Factories? - ft. Dani Rodrik

    Jan 22, 2026·42m
  10. 10

    Who Should The Fed Answer To? - ft. Sir Paul Tucker

    Jan 15, 2026·53m
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    How To Fix The American Tax System - ft. Ray Madoff

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    Ray Madoff says the headline claim that the top 1% pay 40% of taxes confuses high income earners with high wealth owners who can report no income at all.

    Jan 6, 2026·55m·4 clips
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    How Capitalism Became Global ft. Sven Beckert

    Dec 18, 2025·53m
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    How to Stop “Ensh*ttification” Before It Kills the Internet - ft. Cory Doctorow

    Dec 11, 2025·56m
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    Why Matthew Yglesias Is Skeptical Of Anti-Monopoly Policies

    Dec 4, 2025·58m
  15. 15

    Are Big Tech’s Regulators “Cowards”? ft. Tim Wu

    Nov 20, 2025·1h 2m
  16. 16

    Why Economists Should Care About Inequality, with Branko Milanovic

    Nov 6, 2025·47m
  17. 17

    Nobel Economist Reveals Why Economic Models Keep Failing Us, ft. Richard Thaler

    Oct 30, 2025·46m
  18. 18

    What Everyone’s Getting Wrong About AI, with Arvind Narayanan

    Oct 16, 2025·49m
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    Why Capitalism Stopped Working In Japan, with Takeo Hoshi

    Oct 2, 2025·48m
  20. 20

    How Profit and Politics Hijacked Scientific Inquiry, with John Ioannidis

    Sep 18, 2025·48m
  21. 21

    Will Privatizing The Mortgage Giants Solve The Housing Crisis?

    Sep 4, 2025·45m
  22. 22

    Trump's Great Private Equity Bailout, with Dan Rasmussen

    Aug 21, 2025·54m
  23. 23

    Should Chatbots Teach Our Children? With Khan Academy CEO Sal Khan

    Aug 7, 2025·45m
  24. 24

    Can The Dollar Be Dethroned?, with Ken Rogoff

    Jul 24, 2025·58m
  25. 25

    Revealing the Secret Architects of Capitalism, with Chris Hughes

    Jul 10, 2025·49m
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    How The Democrats Lost Labor And Found Capital, with David Sirota

    Jun 26, 2025·50m
  27. 27

    Why Cliff Asness Believes Markets Are Getting Dumber

    Jun 12, 2025·51m
  28. 28

    How Democrats Forgot To Be Normal, with Joan Williams

    May 29, 2025·44m
  29. 29

    Lina Khan's Vision of Capitalism

    May 15, 2025·48m
  30. 30

    The Economics of Law Firms’ Resistance to Trump, with John Morley

    May 1, 2025·48m
  31. 31

    Profit or Purpose? OpenAI's $300 Billion Question, with Rose Chan Loui

    Apr 17, 2025·48m
  32. 32

    Is Silicon Valley Turning Fascist?

    Apr 3, 2025·38m
  33. 33

    Why Trump Is Deregulating In The Wrong Way, with Sam Peltzman

    Mar 20, 2025·45m
  34. 34

    Trump’s War on Universities, with Nicholas Dirks

    Mar 6, 2025·50m
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    Did NIMBYs Kill the American Dream?, with Yoni Appelbaum

    Feb 20, 2025·45m
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    Can AI Even Be Regulated?, with Sendhil Mullainathan

    Feb 13, 2025·50m
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    Why This Nobel Economist Thinks Bitcoin Is Going to Zero, with Eugene Fama

    Bethany McLean and Luigi Zingales discuss the launch of Trump and Melania's cryptocurrencies and Eugene Fama's view that Bitcoin will go to zero.

    Jan 30, 2025·45m
  38. 38

    Should Companies Have A Social Responsibility To Be “Great Businesses”?, with John Kay

    Jan 16, 2025·47m
  39. 39

    How Big Money Changed The Democratic Game, with Daniel Ziblatt

    Daniel Ziblatt discusses how big money distorts politics and democracy, focusing on the interaction between capitalism and democratic systems.

    Jan 2, 2025·50m
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    America’s Addiction to Easy Money, with Ruchir Sharma

    Ruchir Sharma discusses how the Fed's easy money policies have created a culture of avoiding pain, leading to problems like inequality and low productivity.

    Dec 19, 2024·49m
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    The Argentinian DOGE

    Dec 5, 2024·48m
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    The Fertility Crisis: Capitalism's Next Challenge, with Sir Niall Ferguson

    Bethany McLean and Luigi Zingales discuss the global fertility crisis with historian Niall Ferguson, exploring its implications for capitalism and society.

    Nov 21, 2024·46m
  43. 43

    Visa's Hidden Tax on Americans

    Nov 7, 2024·47m
  44. 44

    How Lobbying Led to Crony Capitalism, with Brody Mullins

    Oct 24, 2024·43m
  45. 45

    Mailbag: UBI, AI, and Does Luigi Believe in "Free Time"?

    Oct 10, 2024·38m
  46. 46

    Harris vs. Trump: Economics Beyond The "Vibes"

    Oct 3, 2024·41m
  47. 47

    Can Democracy Coexist With Big Tech? with Marietje Schaake

    Sep 26, 2024·45m
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    Universities and Politics: Should They Mix? with Hanna Gray

    Sep 12, 2024·47m
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    Raj Chetty's Surprising New Insights On How Children Succeed

    Aug 29, 2024·51m
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    The End of Google As We Know It?

    Aug 15, 2024·51m