Body of Wonder

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Doctors and researchers on guts, bones, backs and dogs.

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Body of Wonder is an integrative health interview show in which Dr. Andrew Weil and Dr. Victoria Maizes bring on specialists, several of them University of Arizona faculty or graduates of the hosts' own center. Conversations tend to land on practical choices: glass over plastic, fiber for gut microbes, lifestyle or medication for thinning bones.

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Body of Wonder is an interview show about health and the body, co-hosted by Dr. Andrew Weil and Dr. Victoria Maizes. Its guests are clinicians and researchers, and several come from the hosts' own orbit. There are University of Arizona faculty, such as a cardiologist at the Sarver Heart Center. There are graduates of the hosts' integrative medicine center, including a Florida rheumatologist focused on osteoporosis and a physiatrist who treats spine conditions without surgery. Others come from further afield, like Suzanne Devkota, who directs microbiome research at Cedars-Sinai. Most of the recent episodes begin the same way, with a quick 'Hi, Andy' and 'Hi, Victoria', a line on why the guest is worth hearing, and a formal bio before the guest joins. The hosts clearly know several of these guests, and the talk has a colleague's ease. Some questions come straight from the clinic. The osteoporosis conversation includes a case from practice: fit women, runners and hikers, whose bones are thinning anyway and who would rather avoid medication. The answer weighs hormones, diet, thyroid function and even environmental pollution. The cardiologist traces the overlap between POTS and long COVID, noting that POTS often starts young and for many people eases by their forties. The back pain conversation, 'Stronger Backs and Healthier Lives: Integrative Approaches to Back Pain', includes a stretch on central sensitization, where even a gentle touch on the shoulder can produce significant pain. Its guest also stresses meeting patients where they are before moving to a plan. Devkota separates prebiotics, probiotics and postbiotics and describes feeding helpful gut microbes as cultivating a garden. At one point a host asks for metabolites to be explained, and the answer comes in plain terms. By the end, the field's complexity is framed as a puzzle worth solving. One episode swaps the usual roles. Victoria Maizes becomes the guest to discuss her new book, and a colleague who directs the center's fellowship co-hosts with Andrew Weil. That conversation turns practical quickly, moving from the body's own detox routes through the liver, bowels and sweat to glass containers in place of plastic. The first step, credited to Weil during the conversation, is to stop taking the toxin in. Then there are the dogs. Evan MacLean, who founded and directs the Arizona Canine Cognition Center, distinguishes basic emotions like joy and fear, which dogs certainly have, from moral emotions they may not share. He is candid that it is not yet known whether a dog grasps a person's fear or has learned to answer its cues, some possibly picked up by smell. A curious newcomer could start with the dogs; someone dealing with thinning bones or POTS symptoms has a more direct way in.

Made for: Suits a listener who wants specialists to explain specific conditions, from POTS and long COVID to osteoporosis and chronic back pain, and who is open to diet, lifestyle and environmental exposures being weighed alongside medication.

What sets it apart: The co-hosts draw several guests from their own circle of University of Arizona faculty and integrative medicine graduates, so the interviews have the ease of colleagues talking shop. Practical steps, such as swapping plastic for glass, sit next to frank admissions of what research has not yet settled.

In their own words

Insightful conversations with thought-provoking doctors, specialists, authors, and researchers at the forefront of integrative health and wellness. Hear about the ideas and research that are changing medicine and explore age-old wisdom backed by modern science. Hosted by Dr. Andrew Weil and Dr. Victoria Maizes.

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Andrew Weil and Victoria Maizes ask why your sore back might need more than back exercises.

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  • to tell a prebiotic from a postbiotic before your gut-health shopping gets expensive
  • to hear chronic back pain discussed without the 'it's just in your brain' brush-off
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Episode #63: The Science of Canine Cognition and Connection with Evan MacLean, PhDFeb 27, 2026

A measured look at how dogs sense human emotion, and why their bond with people still resists easy explanation.

Canine cognition turns into a thoughtful study of companionship in this conversation with Dr. Evan McLean, founder and director of the Arizona Canine Cognition Center at the University of Arizona.

Episode #62: Helping the Body to Heal Faster with Dr. Victoria MaizesDec 17, 2025

A practical integrative medicine discussion about recovery, exposure, and supplements.

The episode turns Dr. Victoria Mazes from co-host to guest as Andy brings in Dr. Anne-Marie Shiasson for a discussion of Heal Faster, Unlock Your Body's Rapid Recovery System.

Episode #62: Understanding POTS and Long COVID with Dr. Talal MoukabaryDec 1, 2025

A clear, practical look at POTS, long COVID overlap, and how understanding can help people adapt.

POTS is framed here as a condition strongly shaped by posture: standing can bring symptoms on, while sitting may help an acute episode settle.

Episode 60: Stronger Backs and Healthier Lives: Integrative Approaches to Back PainSep 30, 2025

A whole-person look at why back pain can persist beyond what imaging explains.

Back pain is given a wider frame than imaging alone can offer. Dr. Sanjeev Lakia looks past structure, x-rays, and scans to explain why pain can persist when the visible story seems incomplete.

Episode #59 The Microbiome Matters - What Science Says About Gut Health with Suzanne Devkota, PhDJun 30, 2025

A grounded guide to gut microbes, metabolites, and the gap between promising science and clinical care.

Gut health is framed here as a living system shaped less by microbe names alone than by what those microbes make. Dr. Suzanne Devkoda gives the discussion a clear spine, sorting prebiotics, probiotics, and postbiotics without letting the terms float away from everyday examples…

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