"Age of Miracles"

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What it would actually take to build energy abundance.

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Age of Miracles questions the founders behind micro reactors, fusion generators and lunar power systems about cost, fuel, regulation and timelines. Conversations travel from a single reactor design or customer contract out to a larger claim: that cheap, plentiful energy sits underneath nearly every other kind of progress.

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About "Age of Miracles"

Age of Miracles is an interview-centric show about energy abundance, and its working question is practical: what would actually make advanced nuclear, fusion and space power real at scale? Packy McCormick hosts, with Julia DeWahl as co-host of a first season devoted to fission and fusion. The register is measured and analytical. Questions arrive short and plain, and good answers are allowed to run. Interviews open on a shared prompt about the American energy mix in 2050, and the answers diverge sharply: Jordan Bramble calls it a policy and engineering question, Tyler Bernstein of Zeno Power expects a broad clean mix, and Bret Kugelmass of Last Energy skips ahead to an entirely nuclear 2100. Then the specifics arrive. In the Antares conversation, where Julia DeWahl also appears as one of the company's co-founders, Bramble makes the case for taking micro reactors to the Department of Defense first, setting military projects budgeted in the tens to low hundreds of millions against the billion-dollar reputation of commercial nuclear. Heat-pipe vendors, TRISO fuel supply and the federal GAIN program all come up. David Kirtley of Helion Energy talks through Microsoft as a first customer for data center power, a seventh prototype under construction, and the logic of mass-producing generators near 50 megawatts rather than building giants one at a time, borrowing SpaceX as the example. A question sparked by the series For All Mankind turns into an explanation of how Helion makes its own Helium-3. Kugelmass is the bluntest guest of the group. He argues a nuclear plant ought to cost less than a coal plant, blames regulatory requirements for the tenfold gap, and describes treating construction like an offshore oil platform, where skilled field labor is the cost to squeeze. Bernstein explains why the fourteen-day lunar night makes nuclear heat a question of capability rather than price, and why most of his engineers come from aerospace. The rapport stays warm, but the show is also willing to argue. 'Energy for an Age of Miracles' names regulation as nuclear's biggest bottleneck, noting that founders tend to hesitate before saying so, and it turns grave when describing what life without reliable electricity costs. The season's titles sketch its range: 'The Untold History of Nuclear Energy', 'Nuclear Economics', 'Fission Founders, Part 1: Manufacturing Nuclear', 'The Fusion Marathon' and 'The Case For All the Other Energy Sources'. The feed also holds material beyond energy, including 'Not Boring Founders' interviews with companies such as Crusoe Energy, Ezra and Mindbloom, and essay episodes like 'Intelligence Superabundance'. For the show's thesis in its own words, start with 'Energy for an Age of Miracles'; for the interview form with its most outspoken guest, the Last Energy conversation is the one to hear.

Made for: Suits a listener curious about advanced nuclear, fusion and space power who wants founders pressed on costs, fuel, customers and regulation, and who is comfortable with technical vocabulary like megawatts, heat pipes and Helium-3.

What sets it apart: It pairs patient founder interviews with an openly stated thesis: that abundant energy sits beneath nearly every measure of prosperity, and that regulation is nuclear's main bottleneck. Comparisons to SpaceX, offshore oil platforms and military procurement keep the talk anchored in how hardware actually gets built and bought.

In their own words

A narrative show that explores the complex industries that will play an important role in creating an abundant future for humanity. Every season, host Packy McCormick – a venture investor and writer of the popular Not Boring newsletter – brings in an expert cohost to go deep into the possibilities and challenges of making “sci-fi” dreams our reality in our lifetimes. The first season starts at the root of all progress and prosperity: unlocking 10x more clean and reliable energy by splitting and fusing atoms themselves. Age of Miracles is part of the Turpentine podcast network. Learn more: turpentine.co

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Based on 5 episodes we listened to · September 2026

Age of Miracles connects nuclear ambition to the manufacturing, regulation, customers, and infrastructure required to put new energy systems to work.

Age of Miracles follows ambitious energy technology past the grand promise and into questions of manufacturing, regulation, customers, and deployment.

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The 2050 energy pie chart somehow lands you on the Moon with a 14-day payload.

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  • to hear Packy McCormick ask whether a 500-megawatt fusion agreement means stacking ten generators
  • to weigh lunar power by whether your payload works for years instead of days
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Mass Manufacturing Micro-sized Nuclear Reactors with Jordan Bramble and Julia DeWahl of AntaresJan 20, 2024

A grounded nuclear conversation about scale, tradeoffs, and how cheaper energy ripples through daily life.

Jordan frames nuclear power as a set of hard tradeoffs rather than a shiny future bet. The episode stays focused on the practical work behind scale: policy, engineering, capital, and manufacturing discipline.

A World with Abundant Fusion Energy with David Kirtley of Helion EnergyJan 12, 2024

Fusion only matters here if it can be built small, mass-produced, and sold to real power buyers.

Age of Miracles treats fusion as a planning problem, not a slogan: what has to change for Helion's 2050 promise to matter on the U.S. grid, and why smaller, mass-produced generators may be the real unlock.

Unlocking Nuclear Power at Scale with Bret Kugelmass of Last EnergyJan 5, 2024

A blunt case for building nuclear like industry, not a one-off project.

Brett Kugelmass frames nuclear as an industrial problem before it is anything else. The focus stays on construction delays, skilled labor, financing, and execution, which gives the discussion a practical edge.

Building Nuclear for the Moon with Tyler Bernstein of Zeno PowerDec 29, 2023

Space nuclear, with the economics and approval process laid out clearly.

The episode makes a clear case for space nuclear by tracing the economics and regulation behind power systems for the moon and Mars. It starts with the U.S. energy mix in 2050, then shifts to what nuclear power can enable when the timeline is measured in years rather than days.

Energy for an Age of MiraclesDec 22, 2023

Shipyard reactors anchor a broad case for abundant energy, from water to cities to manufacturing.

This installment uses nuclear power to make a larger case about the future, with Matt Slotkin, founder of Blue Energy, describing reactors built in shipyards, loaded onto boats, and floated to end markets around the world.

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Episodes

  1. 1

    Mass Manufacturing Micro-sized Nuclear Reactors with Jordan Bramble and Julia DeWahl of Antares

    Hidden gem

    Jordan opens by refusing to treat 2050 as fixed.

    Jan 20, 2024·43m·2 clips
  2. 2

    A World with Abundant Fusion Energy with David Kirtley of Helion Energy

    Hidden gem

    David Kirtley argues that fusion needs to reach the U.S.

    Jan 12, 2024·49m·3 clips
  3. 3

    Unlocking Nuclear Power at Scale with Bret Kugelmass of Last Energy

    Hidden gem

    Brett Kugelmass makes the case for nuclear at overwhelming scale.

    Jan 5, 2024·47m·3 clips
  4. 4

    Building Nuclear for the Moon with Tyler Bernstein of Zeno Power

    Hidden gem

    The host opens by asking what the U.S.

    Dec 29, 2023·41m·2 clips
  5. 5

    Energy for an Age of Miracles

    Hidden gem

    The season ends with Alan Kay’s line about inventing the future.

    Dec 22, 2023·38m·2 clips
  6. 6

    Fusion Founders

    Dec 15, 2023·1h 15m
  7. 7

    The Fusion Marathon

    Dec 8, 2023·55m
  8. 8

    The Case For All the Other Energy Sources

    Dec 1, 2023·1h 53m
  9. 9

    Nuclear Mailbag

    Nov 24, 2023·59m
  10. 10

    Fission Founders, Part 2: Designing Advanced Nuclear Reactor Startups

    Nov 17, 2023·2h 5m
  11. 11

    Fission Founders, Part 1: Manufacturing Nuclear

    Nov 10, 2023·57m
  12. 12

    Nuclear Economics

    Nov 3, 2023·1h 23m
  13. 13

    Let’s Get Nuke-Pilled

    Oct 27, 2023·52m
  14. 14

    The Untold History of Nuclear Energy

    Oct 27, 2023·1h
  15. 15

    Not Boring Founders: Crusoe Energy (Chase Lochmiller and Cully Cavness)

    Sep 7, 2023·58m
  16. 16

    Not Boring Founders: Emi Gal, Ezra

    Jul 19, 2023·34m
  17. 17

    Not Boring Founders: Dylan Beynon, Mindbloom

    Jun 15, 2023·42m
  18. 18

    Not Boring Founders: Brandon Arvanaghi, Meow (pt. 3)

    May 31, 2023·22m
  19. 19

    Not Boring Founders: Zach Marks, Jia

    May 17, 2023·35m
  20. 20

    The Unbearable Heaviness of Being Positioned

    Apr 24, 2023·37m
  21. 21

    Intelligence Superabundance

    Apr 17, 2023·15m
  22. 22

    Not Boring Founders: Trevor Bacon, Kellan Grenier, Jason Lewris (Parcl)

    Mar 9, 2023·54m
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    Not Boring Founders: Andrew Herr, Fount

    Mar 2, 2023·40m
  24. 24

    Not Boring Founders: Ryan Glasgow, Sprig

    Feb 16, 2023·35m
  25. 25

    Anton Teaches Packy AI | E6 | Stable Attribution

    Feb 10, 2023·49m
  26. 26

    Not Boring Founders: Sam Levin, Melonfrost

    Feb 2, 2023·48m
  27. 27

    Not Boring Founders: Andy Chatham, Dimo

    Jan 26, 2023·52m
  28. 28

    Not Boring Founders: Michael Kelly, Open Forest Protocol.

    Jan 19, 2023·53m
  29. 29

    Not Boring Founders: Nicholas Chadwick, Mission Zero Technologies

    Jan 12, 2023·54m
  30. 30

    Not Boring Founders: Exponential

    Dec 20, 2022·44m
  31. 31

    Blank Page

    Dec 19, 2022·17m
  32. 32

    Four Seasons Total Tech

    Dec 5, 2022·24m
  33. 33

    Anton Teaches Packy AI | E3 | The First AI Winter

    Dec 5, 2022·1h 20m
  34. 34

    Decentralization

    Nov 27, 2022·1h 4m
  35. 35

    Anton Teaches Packy AI | Ep 2 | Chinchilla

    Nov 25, 2022·1h 3m
  36. 36

    Anton Teaches Packy AI | E1

    Nov 7, 2022·1h 9m
  37. 37

    Not Boring Founders: Joe Connor, Odyssey

    Nov 1, 2022·56m
  38. 38

    Capital & Taste

    Oct 31, 2022·37m
  39. 39

    Formic: Automating Abundance

    Oct 24, 2022·46m
  40. 40

    Not Boring Founders: John Andrew Entwistle

    Interview with Wander founder John Andrew Entwistle about the company's new REIT product, Atlas, which allows community members to invest in a portfolio of short-term rental homes.

    Oct 20, 2022·41m
  41. 41

    Social vs. Science Experiments

    Oct 10, 2022·19m
  42. 42

    How Do I Teach These Kids?!

    Oct 3, 2022·28m
  43. 43

    Tegus: The Outsiders

    Sep 29, 2022·33m
  44. 44

    Not Boring Founders: Peter Johnston, Polywork

    Host Packy McCormick interviews Polywork CEO Peter Johnston about the launch of his professional networking platform for multi-hyphenates.

    Sep 27, 2022·1h 14m
  45. 45

    The Enchanted Notebook

    Sep 26, 2022·14m
  46. 46

    Indistinguishable from Magic

    Sep 19, 2022·25m
  47. 47

    Not Boring Founders: Mike Saunders, Captain

    Host Packy McCormick interviews Mike Saunders, CEO of Captain, about fixing the broken food delivery industry by empowering restaurants and customers.

    Aug 16, 2022·35m
  48. 48

    Not Boring Founders: Eli Wachs & Alex Grinman, Footprint

    Host Packy McCormick interviews the co-founders of Footprint about their identity security startup and its recent seed round.

    Aug 5, 2022·47m
  49. 49

    Not Boring Founders: Brandon Arvanaghi, Meow

    Jul 26, 2022·30m