The Wellness Mama Podcast · Katie Wells

Stepping Off the Drama Triangle: Reflections, Repair, and Responsibility (Solo Episode)

March 23, 2026·46 min·10 clips
She opens by naming the drama triangle. Then she explains the victim, perpetrator, and savior roles as a useful but simplified lens. From there, she brings the idea into parent-child life and other close relationships. A victim parent may sound unheard, while a child may rescue through overcompliance or push back through defiance. She then turns to the perpetrator pattern. In that frame, rigid rules and shaming can move children into victimhood or into mini-perpetrator behavior with siblings. She says she has not lived in that role as much. Still, she recognizes that children can experience it in her household and that it can show up sibling to sibling. The savior role gets the most attention. She describes the urge to fix emotions, homework, and conflicts before kids can handle them themselves. That can feel loving, but it can also keep children from building their own capacity. She ties the same triangle to friendships and romantic relationships. The language stays careful and personal. She talks about how these patterns can show up in language, somatically, and in relationships. She frames her explanation as oversimplified on purpose, so the listener can actually see the shape of it. She shares that she has noticed these roles in her own life with parents, children, friends, and partners. She points listeners toward other podcasts if they want a deeper understanding of the framework. The whole conversation lands as a practical mirror for anyone trying to step out of rescue, blame, or helplessness.

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A grounded look at how the drama triangle can surface in family life.

The episode looks at the drama triangle through parenting and family relationships, and it keeps the examples grounded in everyday tension: parent-child dynamics, sibling conflict, friendships, and romantic relationships.

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If you keep ending up in family fixes you did not mean to own.

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