The How NOT To Make A Movie Podcast · A L Katz

S4E9: There's Something PARANORMAL Happening Here!

·1 hr 6 min·4 clips

A light followed Kyle around a room, then a voice on the recording said, 'that was me.'

Alan Katz frames the episode as another look into the unknown, with a bit of housekeeping for listeners at the top. He asks people to like and share the show, then brings in Kyle Yates, a guest who comes to paranormal investigation with a skeptic's instinct. Katz points out that he has worked with paranormal material before in Tales from the Crypt, The Outer Limits, and various other TV and movie projects, but not from Yates's point of view. Yates's path into the field is described as a second career rather than a lifelong fixation, and Katz suggests he may have been made for it. That matters because the conversation keeps circling back to the gap between disbelief and experience. The story that takes center stage involves a house where Yates and others spent time trying to figure out what was going on. A video was captured on a phone and played back right away. On that playback, a voice seems to say, "that was me." Yates says he heard the voice clearly and that no one in the room was talking when it happened. He tries to explain it away as a bug flying around the room. The story does not stop with the video. He and Rodney stayed overnight in one room while the girls slept elsewhere in the house. They left a digital recorder running all night. During playback, one section sounded, to Yates, like somebody having sex in the room. He says it was not him or Rodney, and the girls were down the hall. Katz follows up on the layout of the house to test how likely it was that the sound came from nearby neighbors. Yates explains that the house sits in a neighborhood with plenty of other houses nearby, but not so close that a voice from one would obviously bleed into another. The conversation keeps adding those details instead of rushing to a verdict. Katz draws out the practical shape of the night: where people were, who stayed quiet, what the recorder caught, and what the skeptic wanted to believe instead. Yates comes across as someone who has spent enough time with strange material to know how hard it is to describe without sounding ridiculous. That gives the episode its shape. It is less a scare session than a back-and-forth over what counts as evidence when something feels real but still refuses to behave cleanly. The show closes by inviting Yates back for another round of paranormal experiences.

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A skeptical paranormal story told as a practical conversation, with enough detail to make the room feel occupied.

This episode follows a working conversation about what happens when belief gets tested and the playback turns strange. Alan Katz and paranormal investigator Kyle Yates stay with the practical points: the video, the voice on the recording, the night in the house, and the small…

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