Strong Tower Mental Health Podcast · Heidi Mortenson, MA, LMFT

209. The Unseen Realm with Jason Chin

·55 min·4 clips

Jason says Disneyland prayers led to tumors dissolving, crooked legs straightening, and 100 salvations.

Jason joins Heidi for a conversation about the unseen realm and how it connects to ordinary life. He starts with a story about asking God what to do with no limitation, and says he would like to see healings and people saved, not just in church but in the marketplace. When pressed for a specific place, he names Disneyland. The point stays simple: God should not be boxed into religious spaces. The conversation keeps coming back to simplicity. Jason says people often think they need more education or qualification before they can move with God, but he argues that childlikeness opens more of the kingdom than overthinking does. He says the more childlike people become, the more room there is for the miraculous. He uses an iceberg picture to explain the relationship between the physical and spiritual worlds. Below the surface is the spiritual realm, and above the water is the physical realm. That image gives the talk its frame. He connects it to the idea that the physical realm is held together by the power of God, especially as described in Colossians and in the word of God. The episode also asks why creative miracles can feel rare. Jason suggests that people give too much weight to what they can feel and touch, which makes the physical seem more real than the spiritual. The conversation stays pastoral rather than technical. It sounds like someone trying to steady a listener's imagination, not just win an argument. Heidi asks for testimony and for practical help on how to live this out. Jason answers by tying expectancy to trust and by treating spiritual reality as something that can break into daily life. He keeps returning to the idea that childlikeness matters. The closer a person gets to simple trust, the more room there is for the miraculous. The closing stretch turns toward encouragement for Heidi and gratitude for her leadership. Jason says to stay connected to Heidi, calls her a great role model, and speaks of her integrity and love for people. The overall shape is warm, earnest, and direct.

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A warm faith conversation about healing, childlike trust, and the unseen realm beneath ordinary life.

Jason Chin's conversation on Strong Tower Mental Health Podcast keeps its focus on the overlap between faith, healing, and mental health without making the point harder than it needs to be.

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You want a faith conversation that links mental health language, childlike trust, and healing outside church walls.

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