Renegade Marketers Unite · Drew Neisser

CRO: Friend or Foe?

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Joelle Kaufman exposes the three biggest mistakes CMOs make when dealing with their sales counterparts.
This episode explores the complex relationship between CMOs and CROs, with guest Joelle Kaufman outlining common mistakes like misaligned metrics and budget conflicts. The conversation highlights practical strategies for collaboration, including aligning on sales-qualified opportunities and transparent budgeting, with real examples of successful partnerships.

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A practical take on CRO-CMO alignment, centered on questions, empathy, and sustainable growth.

Joelle Kaufman frames the CRO-CMO relationship as something that can be managed, not mystified. The value is in the working habits: ask sharper questions, build empathy and curiosity, learn from customer calls, and use sales experience to see the business from a wider angle.

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When the CRO-CMO relationship needs a clearer playbook for sustainable growth.

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