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Murder at the Warehouse | Ep. 15 - How the Game is Played

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Eric Greer says Tim Fisher was responsible, and the police report says only: 'Numerous subjects, including Fisher.'

1. Proof: A True Crime Podcast episode "How the Game is Played" follows Susan Simpson and Jacinda Davis as they return to interview Tim Fisher about Renee's murder. 2. Susan Simpson is the attorney-investigator host, and Jacinda Davis is the true crime producer host who challenges Tim's account and tracks the case details. 3. The episode asks whether Tim Fisher knows more about the sisters' house, the accusations against him, and Renee's killing than he is saying. 4. Tim first appears as someone who says he barely knew the sisters' house but claimed to be deeply affected by Renee's death. 5. The hosts show Tim video material from Josh Burrows' interrogation, where Josh says he saw Jake and Ty strangle Renee. 6. Tim reacts to Josh's interrogation by calling it one of the worst interviews he has ever seen and saying Josh seemed genuinely scared and confused. 7. Tim also repeats criticism of the Manteca police, saying they did a horrible job and did not thoroughly interview Renee's friends. 8. The interview turns to the last time Tim says he saw Renee walking by Janice Music on Yosemite Avenue. 9. Tim says he stopped and talked to Renee, asked why she was with Jake Silva, and heard her say Jake was 'all right.' 10. The hosts note that this is a different version from Tim's earlier story, when he had not said he stopped to talk to her. 11. Tim later says he had wanted to ask Renee out, and the hosts connect that detail to the fact that she had just turned 18. 12. Eric Greer's recorded statement becomes another major point, because Eric says people believed Tim was responsible for Renee's murder. 13. Tim says he is more upset that Eric did not confront him directly than by the accusation itself. 14. The hosts also play Eric's references to the sisters' house, where he describes Julie, Jamie, and Liam acting hysterical after Renee's body was found. 15. Tim says the sisters' house was a 'nasty house' full of 'nasty people,' but he still does not offer a clear explanation for what happened there. 16. The episode returns to physical evidence, including Renee's hemp necklaces, the missing backpack and shoes, and the fact that DNA testing was never completed on key items. 17. Susan and Jacinda emphasize that the case still looks solvable because the evidence was not fully tested and the original theory depends heavily on disputed statements. 18. The tone is investigative and conversational, with the hosts interrupting, replaying clips, and pressing Tim while he deflects or changes the subject. 19. Listeners who follow cold-case evidence, witness contradictions, and detailed interview tactics will likely want this episode. 20. Listeners who want a fast, linear case recap without repeated questioning may skip it.

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A witness interview becomes a slow, uneasy study of what gets left unsaid.

The episode centers on a second interview with Tim Fisher, and the tension grows as a witness becomes harder to pin down. The hosts press him on Eric Greer's park video, the sisters' house, and the last time he says he saw Renee, and each return to the story exposes another…

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A shifting witness story turns this interview into the episode's most uncomfortable source of suspense.

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