It's Only a Podcast - A Horror Movie Review Show · Christian Estabrook and Ian Nichols

Overkill: Saw 6 (2009)

·1 hr 30 min·4 clips

Director Kevin Grutier's rejected mafia storyline for Saw Six reveals production chaos.

Christian Estabrook kicks things off like a holiday cookie check-in and a horror review at the same time. He asks L Willers whether she is familiar with Christmas cookies, then gets a quick answer on the best shape: a snowflake. From there they spiral through cookie cutters, missing shapes, and the fact that this California kitchen does not exactly scream winter wonderland. That opening joke sets the tone for the rest of the episode. The conversation likes to wander, but it still knows where it is headed. Once *Saw VI* takes over, the hosts settle into John Kramer and his place in the story. They clearly enjoy the flashbacks, and they think the movie does a strong job spelling out Kramer’s beef with the healthcare industry. The line about having money but caring about principle gets a loud, happy response. They treat it like one of the film’s standout little character beats. That turns into a broader appreciation for how the movie frames Kramer’s logic. The hosts do not soften how cruel he is. They just enjoy how direct and theatrical the movie makes that cruelty. Before long, they are onto the strange choice to set the film in a zoo. That question becomes its own bit. The cages matter. The zoo signage matters. The whole setup feels like the movie is trying to keep its themes in plain view. Christian and L push on that idea without pretending it is elegant. They are more interested in whether the joke works. The result is a very loose, very chatty horror conversation. It keeps threatening to become a cookie podcast. It keeps remembering that *Saw VI* is the real target. The episode closes with the show’s usual sign-off energy and a reminder to keep telling yourself it is only a podcast and have a very happy holiday.

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A loose Saw VI hangout that keeps looping back to John Kramer, cookies, and the zoo.

Overkill treats Saw VI like a hanging-out episode, with John Kramer, the health care industry, and a side of Christmas cookies all getting their turn.

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You want Saw VI talk that can pivot from traps to Christmas cookies without ever feeling staged.

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