How We Get Thru Podcast: Wellness, Healing & Spiritual Tools for Growth in Real Life · Jen Hershey

S3 Ep 83 Accessing Natural Magic & Energy Lines with Deb Schaffer

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Deb Schaefer was told her triple-negative breast cancer had an eight-out-of-nine aggressiveness score.

1. How We Get Thru Podcast: Wellness, Healing & Spiritual Tools for Growth in Real Life centers on Deb Schaefer’s practice of natural magic and earth energy. 2. Deb Schaefer is the guest, and the host frames her as the “fairy godmother of good vibes” because she is a healer, herbalist, earth alchemist, and shop owner. 3. The episode asks how Deb turned illness, ritual, and land-based work into a practical system for clearing energy and supporting wellbeing. 4. Deb says she was running a brick-and-mortar shop and interior design firm when she found a breast lump after being four months late for a mammogram. 5. She says the scan led quickly from mammogram to sonogram to biopsy, and she was told she had an extremely aggressive triple-negative breast cancer. 6. Deb says the cancer was rated an eight on a zero-to-nine scale, and she was told doctors would try to get her to a two-year survival. 7. She says her son had just started eighth grade and was 13, which changed how she made decisions about treatment. 8. Deb describes asking God to show her what to do and then being randomized into a clinical trial that is now protocol. 9. She says she later had a lumpectomy, then requested a double mastectomy and later had her ovaries removed because of family cancer history. 10. Deb links her design background to feng shui, saying both fields involve stepping into a person’s energetic space and aligning it with hopes and dreams. 11. She says radiation oncology introduced her to Reiki, guided meditation, yoga, and other adjunct modalities that she studied deeply. 12. Deb explains that her earth alchemy practice starts with a home address, a Google plot, and an intake questionnaire listing people, cats, dogs, birds, and mice. 13. She says she uses a pendulum to identify naturally occurring earth lines, yin water, and earth chakras, then labels them beneficial, neutral, or detrimental. 14. Deb says those lines can relate to headaches, infertility, relationship strain, stagnation, or a general feeling of being unsettled. 15. She says land clearing can involve shifting a home office, and she gives an example of a client who moved an office room during a Zoom session. 16. Deb says emotional events such as fires, wars, refugee camps, and tragedies can sink into the earth and travel through energy lines. 17. She says empaths may feel those line “blips” as anxiety or headaches, and she uses clearing work to help people feel grounded again. 18. The interview style stays conversational and energetic, with the host agreeing, asking follow-up questions, and echoing Deb’s language about magic, ritual, and clearing. 19. People interested in crystals, energy work, feng shui, herbalism, or practical ritual language would likely enjoy this episode. 20. People looking for a conventional medical interview or a strict scientific framing may skip it.

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