RV238 - How To Outcompete $100M Giants (Live Fireside Chat)

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Chris Walker claims a company your size has a distinct advantage over a $100 million company right now.

The episode features a live fireside chat with Chris Walker, hosted by Carolyn Dilks and Trevor Gibson of Passetto. Walker sets the stage by discussing a massive transformation in how software companies are built, valued, and go to market. He asserts that smaller companies have a distinct advantage over $100M giants due to flexibility and the ability to integrate AI natively, unlike larger firms with ingrained processes and underwater cap tables. Walker critiques big companies like Sixth Sense for failing to help customers operationalize products, leading to high churn rates. He emphasizes the need for companies to take accountability for customer success, suggesting paid professional services as a solution. Walker highlights the evolution of AI, sharing how he rebuilt a product in three hours using tools like Claw and Versal, showcasing speed advantages. He discusses the competitive landscape, noting copycatting from both small and large companies, which drives commoditization. Walker advises playing the game differently, such as going stealth mode to avoid handing strategies to competitors. He addresses go-to-market issues, including breaking marketing into strategy and pipeline creation functions and critiquing RevOps for lacking strategic skills. In the Q&A, Walker answers questions about defensibility, pricing models, attribution, and sales processes. He argues that software alone is not defensible; true moats come from customer proximity, results delivery, and proprietary data. Walker explores shifting to pay-per-deliverable or outcome-based pricing, using examples like Algolia. He discusses attribution challenges, advocating for separating measurement by investment purpose and focusing on unit economics. Walker also touches on sales processes, suggesting that the real problem is often insufficient pipeline creation, not sales execution. The episode concludes with advice on fast learning, emphasizing customer focus and self-awareness.

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A live strategy conversation on outcome-based pricing, signal tracking, and matching work to the skills behind it.

This live fireside chat follows a concrete commercial question: what changes when go-to-market teams are paid for delivered outcomes rather than seats or subscriptions?

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Press play when subscription pricing feels too far removed from the result your customer actually wants.

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