Decoder with Nilay Patel · The Verge

Yahoo CEO Jim Lanzone on reviving the web's homepage

March 16, 2026·1 hr 18 min·6 clips
Yahoo's CEO calls giving search to Google the company's 'original sin'—a deal that changed everything.
Yahoo remains hard to summarize. Nilay starts with the old Google search deal, which the intro says Lanzone calls Yahoo's original sin, then uses that as the doorway into a stranger question: what is Yahoo now? The interview has Decoder's usual dry skepticism. Nilay does not let the company sit there as a nostalgia object. He asks how Sports, Finance, Mail, AOL, and the rest of the machine fit together today. Apollo is the obvious pressure point. Lanzone says private ownership gave Yahoo room to make bigger bets, buy smaller companies, and fund itself from the business it already had. He is careful about where the answer stops. Reductions happened, he says, but his team chose them because the businesses did not make sense, not because investors demanded a blunt cost-cutting drill. Ad tech gets the cleanest hit. Lanzone says Yahoo shut down two large money losing ad tech pieces because they made revenue look bigger without helping the company enough. Then the metaphor gets a little movie-ish. He compares the revenue swap to the Indiana Jones gold replacement scene. Nilay keeps asking for the actual math. Lanzone will not give revenue, beyond saying it is in the billions, and insists Yahoo is very profitable, not just squeaking by. Bad revenue becomes the thread. AOL brought revenue and profit, then left the picture as Yahoo narrowed what counted as the real business. The tension is simple enough: a once-public internet giant is arguing that private ownership helped it rebuild without making cuts the whole strategy. The useful question is whether that rebuilt engine can carry something bigger.

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A grounded Decoder conversation about Yahoo's private era rebuild, its ad tech cleanup, and the long shadow of its search mistakes.

Yahoo's comeback is framed as a technology story hiding inside one of the web's most familiar names. Nilay Patel talks with CEO Jim Lanzone about a company still anchored by Yahoo Sports, Yahoo Finance, Yahoo Mail, and the homepage, but no longer trapped in the same public…

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Yahoo is still standing, now very profitable, and its CEO will explain the turnaround in unusually plain terms.

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