Decoder with Nilay Patel · The Verge
Why GM will give you Gemini — but not CarPlay
October 22, 2025·1 hr 18 min·5 clips
GM's CEO explains why a $1.6 billion charge reflects slower EV adoption but insists EVs remain their North Star.
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GM's Gemini push opens into a sharper conversation about car software, EV competition, and automaker control.
GM's software push is the center of this Decoder episode. Nilay Patel talks with CEO Mary Barra and new chief product officer Sterling Anderson about a Google Gemini-powered assistant coming to new cars, GM's next hardware and EV architecture, and the company's answer to a…
Why you'd press play
GM's CEO and new product chief explain why Gemini is coming to your dashboard -- and CarPlay is not.
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