Zombified: Your Source for Fresh Brains

50 episodes listed below

Listen to the show on

One zombie metaphor, stretched from parasites to school.

The gist

Zombified treats the zombie as a working metaphor, asking whether its hosts have been zombified by parasites, psychedelics, education, bad ideas or the work-and-shopping routine. The material runs from toxoplasma to the solar duck curve, and the banter and joke merch pitches keep it from sounding like a lecture.

PRESS PLAY

Find your next episode

All episodes

About Zombified: Your Source for Fresh Brains

Zombified: Your Source for Fresh Brains is built on one question, and it keeps asking it. Have you been zombified? The host, Athena Aktipis, introduces herself on air as a psychology professor at ASU, while co-host Dave Lundberg-Kenrick describes himself as creative director for the psych department there and a bad idea enthusiast. At the top of an episode the question comes back with a new culprit. Imagination, or the lack of it. Parasites. Psychedelic drugs. Bad ideas. Education. The scheme, which in their telling is the loop of going to work, buying things, going home and never getting enough sleep. The titles pair each theme with a name: 'Parasitized: Kelly Weinersmith', 'Psychedelified: Shane Mauss', 'Mental Immunity: Andy Norman', 'Educational Zombification: Meredith Small', 'The Mad Scheme: Gary Dirks' and 'The Rise of AI: Andrew Maynard'. Read as a run, they show that zombification works here as a lens rather than a genre, turned on biology, the mind, school, work and ideas themselves. The talk carries real detail. In 'Parasitized: Kelly Weinersmith', the conversation covers an arms race between parasitoids with elaborate ovipositors and the protective growths a wasp manipulates a tree into producing, and whether the wasp changes its instructions at different stages is described as still unknown. 'The Mad Scheme: Gary Dirks' gets to the solar duck curve, built by subtracting a day's solar output from electricity demand. 'Psychedelified: Shane Mauss' brings in the brain's default mode network and the sense that, in a psychedelic state, everything carries equal importance. 'Mental Immunity: Andy Norman' makes room for stories, which may be untrue yet can lower resistance to new ideas. In 'Educational Zombification: Meredith Small', someone calls grades worthless and says college is for becoming an educated person. Personal asides keep coming up, like an 11-year-old's verdict that a parent is both the fun one and the serious one, or a joke about getting tested for toxoplasma because it would at least explain the lost keys. Then there is the silliness. A mock disclaimer notes that supporters do not necessarily endorse anything said about drugs. Merch plugs promise stickers that guard a computer against viruses and T-shirts that let the wearer live forever, or suggest turning shirts into license plates, followed by a reminder that this is not legal advice. More than once someone asks on air what they are supposed to say at the end, and in these episodes the sign-off is the same line: thank you for listening to Zombified, your source for fresh brains. What a listener gets is serious science and big questions, handled with a loose, joking curiosity that rarely stays on script.

Made for: Suits a listener who likes science as a rambling conversation rather than a lecture, and who will follow a thread from tree-hijacking wasps to college grades as long as the jokes keep coming.

What sets it apart: Rather than covering a single field, it runs one metaphor, zombification, through parasitology, psychedelics, schooling, energy and the spread of ideas, and it opens episodes by asking whether the hosts themselves have been zombified by the subject at hand.

In their own words

Is something taking over your brain? Zombified is a podcast about how we are vulnerable to being hijacked by things that are not us. From microbes hijacking behavior, to humans influencing each other, to our brains being taken over by social media, we talk about why zombification happens, why we are susceptible to it, and what we can do about it. Hosted by Dr. Athena Aktipis, a Psychology Professor at Arizona State University and the founder of the Zombie Apocalypse Medicine Alliance, and co-hosted by zombie enthusiast Dave Lundberg-Kenrick, “Zombified” takes a radically interdisciplinary approach to the science of zombification. If you enjoy fresh brains, this podcast is for you!

Why you'd press play

A gall wasp makes a tree build its nursery; now your own routines look a little suspicious.

Press play if you want

  • to hear Athena Aktipis and Dave Lundberg-Kenrick puzzle over a wasp that gets a tree to feed its young
  • to question the career rules academics pass to their students, with an evolutionary twist
Read the full recommendation in PlayNext →
Parasites that manipulate their hostsPsychedelics and the brainBad ideas and mental immunityHow stories open minds to new ideasEducation and curiosityImagination and playWork, consumption and 'the scheme'

Talks about

Best episodes of Zombified: Your Source for Fresh Brains

Short reviews from the PlayNext desk, based on the episodes we processed.

The Rise of AI: Andrew MaynardOct 10, 2023

A warm conversation on adult busyness, wonder, and why serious work may still need play.

Imagination comes through as something adulthood can press down, not a luxury left behind in childhood. The discussion moves from the pleasure of a mind in "flow state" to the worry that busyness crowds out the room needed for wonder.

Parasitized: Kelly WeinersmithJul 4, 2023

A playful science conversation about parasites, gall wasps, and the uneasy line between host and manipulator.

Kelly turns a conversation about the unsettling idea of toxoplasma gondii nudging behavior into a sharper look at biological control, moving from parasite anxiety to the stranger image of a gall wasp getting a tree to make shelter and food for its young.

Psychedelified: Shane MaussMay 31, 2023

A funny, concrete conversation about psychedelics, attention, and the trees that suddenly command notice.

Psychedelified: Shane Mauss turns psychedelic experience into a practical question about attention, asking what changes when the brain's usual sorting of focus and background detail starts to loosen.

Mental Immunity: Andy NormanMay 16, 2023

A lively look at how stories can soften skepticism and help bad ideas travel.

The episode opens on a slippery question: how do bad ideas get past the mind's defenses, and why can some still prove useful? Athena Actipas and Dave Lumberg-Kenrick keep the exchange loose while drawing a clear line between playful invention and false narratives that cause…

The Mad Scheme: Gary DirksMay 10, 2023

A loose, thoughtful episode connects social integration with the solar grid's duck curve.

The episode frames the scheme as a kind of social operating system, tying together work, buying, too little sleep, and the uneasy sense that stepping outside society is no longer simple.

Podcasts like Zombified: Your Source for Fresh Brains

Episodes

  1. 1

    The Rise of AI: Andrew Maynard

    Hidden gem

    Zombified: Your Source for Fresh Brains uses Andrew Maynard's take on AI and technology to ask whether imagination gets crowded out by templates, routine, and being busy.

    Oct 10, 2023·1h 37m·5 clips
  2. 2

    Russian Shenanigans: Scott Ruston

    Sep 26, 2023·2h 5m
  3. 3

    Parasitized: Kelly Weinersmith

    Hidden gem

    ["Athena Actipas and Dave Lundberg-Kenrick open Zombified's Parasitized episode with toxoplasma gondii jokes, cat urine, and Kelly Wienersmith.", "Kelly Wienersmith, an adjunct assistant professor at Rice University and science communicator, explains how Toxoplasma gondii reproduces in cats and spreads through oocysts in garden soil, unwashed vegetables, and prey animals.", "She cites Joanne Webster's rat studies, Yaroslav Flager's human behavior work, and Kevin Lafferty's country-level correlations, including slower reaction time and about 2.5 times more car accidents.", "The interview also moves through zombie ants, pinworms, tapeworms in moose, and the cryptkeeper wasp, showing how parasites can change fear, itch, movement, and plant tissue rather than only brains."]

    Jul 4, 2023·1h 33m·5 clips
  4. 4

    Psychedelified: Shane Mauss

    Hidden gem

    Shane Mauss says psychedelics can de-zombify attention by disrupting the brain's default mode network, but the culture around psychedelics can create new forms of conformity.

    May 31, 2023·1h 19m·5 clips
  5. 5

    Mental Immunity: Andy Norman

    Hidden gem

    ["Athena Actipus and Dave Lumberg-Kenrick open Zombified by joking about shooting stars, literal fireworks, and bad ideas before bringing on Andy Norman, author of Mental Immunity.", "Norman says bad ideas can act like 'mind parasites,' and the conversation ties their spread to outrage, fear, social media algorithms, Alex Jones, and attention economies.", "He argues that 'everyone's entitled to their beliefs' is a bad cultural axiom because critical thinking can disturb beliefs and mental immunity depends on controlled exposure, not quarantine.", "The episode closes on stories, suspension of disbelief, and a witchcraft example in early modern Europe where broomstick travel widened accusations from a few nearby women to about 100."]

    May 16, 2023·1h 18m·5 clips
  6. 6

    The Mad Scheme: Gary Dirks

    Hidden gem

    Gary Dierks treats modern life as a transactional "scheme" built on energy, raw materials, and information, and he argues that a week without power in Phoenix would quickly become a food, water, and heat problem.

    May 10, 2023·1h 28m·5 clips
  7. 7

    Educational Zombification: Meredith Small

    Zombified: Your Source for Fresh Brains examines whether schools suppress curiosity through a conversation with anthropologist Meredith Small, professor emerita after 28 years at Cornell University.

    May 4, 2023·1h 37m·5 clips
  8. 8

    The Cult of Academia: Nicole Barbaro

    Hidden gem

    Zombified: Your Source for Fresh Brains interviews Nicole Barbaro, a PhD psychologist who moved from evolutionary human-behavior research into communications at Heterodox Academy.

    May 3, 2023·1h 34m·5 clips
  9. 9

    Resistance: Mzilikazi Koné

    Jan 17, 2023·1h 21m
  10. 10

    The Twitterpocalypse: Steven Beschloss

    Zombified: Your Source for Fresh Brains examines the Twitterpocalypse through Stephen Beschloss's account of growing from about 5,000 followers to more than 280,000 during the Trump years.

    Jan 11, 2023·1h 21m·5 clips
  11. 11

    Digitizing Humanity: Liz Grumbach

    Hidden gem

    Athena Actipas and Dave Lundberg-Kenrick interview Liz Grumbach, an Arizona State University digital-humanities scholar with more than 12 years of experience.

    Dec 22, 2022·59m·3 clips
  12. 12

    Refusing to Die: Season 4 live premier

    Hidden gem

    Zombified: Your Source for Fresh Brains launches season four by defining “refusing to die” as staying human, maintaining autonomy, and continuing to engage with life.

    Dec 8, 2022·55m·3 clips
  13. 13

    Prezombification: Bob Cialdini

    Hidden gem

    Bob Cialdini explains how automatic influence can shape decisions before people recognize the cue, using Judith Langer’s Harvard Xerox study where “because” raised compliance from 60 percent to 93 percent.

    Dec 8, 2022·1h 11m·5 clips
  14. 14

    The Infopocalypse: Kristy Roschke

    Hidden gem

    Christy Rushby, managing director of the News CoLab at Arizona State University's Walter Cronkite School, defines media literacy as analyzing purpose, representation, context, and missing voices in media.

    Apr 7, 2021·1h 17m·5 clips
  15. 15

    Shabamified: Josh Kurz & Wendy Roderweiss

    Hidden gem

    Zombified: Your Source for Fresh Brains interviews Wendy Rotterweiss and Josh Kurtz about Shabam, a family science podcast that uses a zombie-apocalypse story to explain infrastructure, immunology, and critical thinking.

    Mar 23, 2021·1h 14m·5 clips
  16. 16

    Zombie Politics: Mary Ziegler

    Mary Ziegler, a Florida State University law professor who studies the legal history of reproduction, explains how abortion became a strongly partisan issue in the United States.

    Mar 16, 2021·1h·4 clips
  17. 17

    Famished: Cathryn Townsend

    Hidden gem

    Catherine Townsend, a social anthropologist, examines how famine shaped the Ik people’s reputation for selfishness after Colin Turnbull’s 1960s fieldwork in Uganda.

    Mar 9, 2021·1h·4 clips
  18. 18

    Social Web: Tamas David Barrett

    Hidden gem

    Zombified: Your Source for Fresh Brains interviews behavioral scientist Tomas David Barrett about how social networks shape cooperation, conformity, and everyday behavior.

    Feb 17, 2021·1h 31m·5 clips
  19. 19

    Influenced: Robert Frank

    Hidden gem

    Athena Ektipas and Dave Lundberg-Kenrick interview Cornell economist Robert Frank about how peer behavior shapes consumption, beliefs, smoking, and mask use.

    Feb 11, 2021·1h 39m·5 clips
  20. 20

    Perfect storm: Clyde Cain

    Hidden gem

    Athena Actipas and Dave Lumberg-Henrich interview Clyde Kane, CEO and founder of Louisiana Cajun Navy and Louisiana Storm Patrol, about civilian hurricane rescue.

    Dec 22, 2020·1h 18m·5 clips
  21. 21

    Conspiracy: Chelsey Weber-Smith

    Zombified hosts Athena Aktifis and Dave Lindberg-Kenryk interview Chelsea Weber-Smith, creator of American Hysteria, about growing up with a prepper father focused on the 2012 apocalypse.

    Nov 3, 2020·1h 16m·5 clips
  22. 22

    Competified: Scott Brooks

    Hidden gem

    Zombified: Your Source for Fresh Brains examines youth-sports competition through Scott Brooks’s experience as a former athlete, coach, parent, and urban sociologist at Arizona State University.

    Oct 15, 2020·1h 23m·5 clips
  23. 23

    Addicted: Matt Meier

    Hidden gem

    Licensed psychologist and ASU assistant clinical professor Matt Meier explains addiction through synthetic drugs, reward systems, environmental pressures, and treatment.

    Oct 6, 2020·1h 23m·5 clips
  24. 24

    Who's on your Z-team? Cam Carlson

    Cameron Carlson, an active-duty U.S.

    Oct 3, 2020·1h 20m·5 clips
  25. 25

    The Toxopocalypse: Jessica Brinkworth

    Hidden gem

    Zombified: Your Source for Fresh Brains examines how Toxoplasma gondii alters cells, rodent behavior, and possibly human outcomes with Jessica Brinkworth, an immune-system researcher at the University of Illinois Urbana-Champaign.

    Oct 3, 2020·1h 21m·5 clips
  26. 26

    Apocalyptish Times: Season 3 live premier

    Hidden gem

    Athena Actipas and Dave Lundberg-Kenrick launch Season 3 of Zombified with guests Jessica Brinkworth, Cameron Carlson, Erica O'Neill, and Ilana Rain.

    Oct 3, 2020·1h 17m·5 clips
  27. 27

    Adapted for the apocalypse: Mike Gurven

    Hidden gem

    Athena Actipus and Dave Lundberg-Kenrick interview anthropologist Michael Girvin about whether humans repeatedly experienced apocalyptic conditions during evolutionary history.

    Jun 5, 2020·1h·4 clips
  28. 28

    Screen time: Ilana Rein

    Zombified: Your Source for Fresh Brains interviews filmmaker Ilana Rine about creating screen-based art while worrying that phones, Instagram, and films capture attention.

    May 29, 2020·1h 41m·5 clips
  29. 29

    Social parasites: Doug Kenrick

    Zombified: Your Source for Fresh Brains interviews Arizona State University social psychology professor Doug Kenrick about evolutionary motives and social parasites.

    May 19, 2020·1h 51m·5 clips
  30. 30

    The age of ascension: Lee Cronk

    Hidden gem

    Zombified: Your Source for Fresh Brains examines memes and cultural transmission through an interview with anthropologist Lee Kronk of Rutgers University.

    May 12, 2020·1h 13m·5 clips
  31. 31

    Imitate this! Cristine Legare

    Hidden gem

    Christine Laguerre argues that human cognition is especially suited to cultural learning, allowing children to acquire languages, norms, and locally relevant toolkits through imitation.

    Mar 24, 2020·1h 21m·5 clips
  32. 32

    Paranoid: Nichola Raihani

    Hidden gem

    Zombified: Your Source for Fresh Brains examines paranoia with Nicola Rayani, a professor of evolution and behavior at University College London.

    Mar 17, 2020·1h·4 clips
  33. 33

    Bat shit: David Quammen

    Hidden gem

    Zombified: Your Source for Fresh Brains interviews science journalist David Quammen about bats, zoonotic disease, and the movement of viruses between species.

    Mar 10, 2020·1h 37m·5 clips
  34. 34

    My GPS made me do it: Katina Michael

    Katina Michael, Athena Actipas and Dave Lundberg-Kenrick examine how GPS systems, smartphones, wearables and possible brain implants can shift decision-making away from human judgment.

    Mar 3, 2020·1h 21m·5 clips
  35. 35

    Microchimeric mombie: Amy Boddy

    Hidden gem

    Zombified: Your Source for Fresh Brains examines microchimerism, the transfer and persistence of genetically distinct cells between mothers and fetuses.

    Feb 25, 2020·1h 2m·4 clips
  36. 36

    Pill brain: Sarah Hill

    Hidden gem

    Zombified: Your Source for Fresh Brains interviews psychologist Sarah Hill about hormonal contraception and the ways she says birth control pills can affect stress physiology, memory, and behavior.

    Feb 14, 2020·1h 34m·5 clips
  37. 37

    Placental hijacking: David Haig

    Zombified: Your Source for Fresh Brains interviews Harvard biologist David Haig about maternal-fetal conflict and the placenta's genetic origin in the fetus.

    Feb 14, 2020·58m·4 clips
  38. 38

    Love zombies: Diana Fleischman

    Hidden gem

    Zombified: Your Source for Fresh Brains examines how Diana Fleischman applies behaviorism and evolutionary psychology to manipulation in romantic, family, and other relationships.

    Feb 14, 2020·1h 9m·4 clips
  39. 39

    Undead love: Season 2 live premier

    Hidden gem

    Athena Actippas and Dave Lindberg-Kendrick launch Zombified's season on how love and relationships can manipulate behavior.

    Feb 14, 2020·1h 11m·5 clips
  40. 40

    Loving exploitation: Mark Flinn

    Hidden gem

    Mark Flynn, an anthropology professor at Baylor University, describes love as enjoying mutual exploitation through untracked giving and trust.

    Jan 21, 2020·34m·2 clips
  41. 41

    Zombified by design: Neil Smith

    Hidden gem

    Zombified: Your Source for Fresh Brains interviews illustrator Neil Smith about how design and illustration can influence attention, behavior, and belief.

    Dec 19, 2019·40m·2 clips
  42. 42

    Dave's mindfulness

    Hidden gem

    Zombified: Your Source for Fresh Brains revisits Dave's attempt to practice mindfulness after Mary Davis recommended meditation, gratitude, connection, and a fourth activity of choice.

    Nov 7, 2019·44m·3 clips
  43. 43

    Rabid: Clive Wynne

    Oct 21, 2019·12m
  44. 44

    The Sound of the Apocalypse: Lee Miles

    Oct 7, 2019·32m
  45. 45

    Duct tape before guns: Emily Zarka

    Hidden gem

    Emily Zarka, an Arizona State University monster expert with a PhD in Gothic literature, explains how horror can rehearse practical and psychological responses to disasters.

    Jul 30, 2019·1h 7m·4 clips
  46. 46

    Insatiable: Mark Mannucci

    Hidden gem

    Zombified: Your Source for Fresh Brains features documentary filmmaker Mark Minucci discussing insatiable curiosity, brain death, microbes, ego, and the ways people become controlled by forces they do not recognize.

    Jul 23, 2019·1h 10m·4 clips
  47. 47

    Curiosity kills: Barbara Natterson-Horowitz

    Hidden gem

    Zombified: Your Source for Fresh Brains examines morbid curiosity with evolutionary biologist and cardiologist Barb Natterson Horowitz, whose work compares human and animal health.

    Jul 16, 2019·54m·3 clips
  48. 48

    The red zone: Keith Tidball

    Hidden gem

    Zombified: Your Source for Fresh Brains examines whether chaos paralyzes people or creates opportunities for action, through Athena Ectipus and Dave Lundberg-Kenrick's interview with disaster-response professor Keith Tidball.

    Jul 9, 2019·1h 17m·5 clips
  49. 49

    Microbial Zombification: Joe Alcock

    Hidden gem

    Joe Alcock, Athena Actipas, and Dave Lundberg-Kenner examine whether microbes can manipulate host behavior through appetite, pain, mood, and opioid systems.

    Jul 2, 2019·1h 9m·4 clips
  50. 50

    Laugh like a Zombie: Tom Wisdom

    Hidden gem

    Zombified: Your Source for Fresh Brains examines laughter and humor through Athena Actipas's interview with psychology PhD and comedian Tom Wisdom.

    Jun 25, 2019·1h 15m·5 clips