We Mean Business

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Business reporting that explains how it was done.

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We Mean Business puts award-winning reporters alongside academic researchers. Journalists explain how their findings were tested and reported, while professors of marketing and economics explain rage bait, nostalgia ads and subscriptions that are easier to start than to stop, and the questions keep coming back to method.

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About We Mean Business

We Mean Business is an interview program about business, money and accountability, and its most distinctive habit is treating the work of reporting as the subject. It is sponsored by the Reynolds Center at Arizona State University. Some conversations center on journalists honored with the Barlett and Steele Award, and those stay close to method. Alexa York, who won the 2025 award for Outstanding Young Journalist, talks with Quynh Le in a conversation presented as How They Did It. Officials had said an old weapons site in Luckey, Ohio, was fine. York ran her own tests for the Blade and found radiation in the groundwater far above federal limits, and state, local and federal agencies then opened investigations of their own. The texture is in what she could not use. She is candid that she could not publish what people around town told her without documents to back it up. She has also never found a record for a story a former bar owner heard from plant workers, that the site made ceramic tiles for the space shuttle. A special edition on the San Francisco Chronicle investigation 'Burned' comes at method from another side. That reporting, by Megan Van Muntz, Susie Nielsen and Bronte Whitpen, found that a flawed estimator tool called 360 Value left homeowners badly underinsured. Whitpen, a photojournalist who also writes and makes documentary video, went back to wildfire-hit communities several times to shoot photos and video and talk directly with families dealing with the fallout. Other episodes, including a Marketing Edition, turn to academic researchers. Dr. Daniel Motion, an associate professor of marketing at Tulane University, explains the loop behind rage bait, Oxford Dictionary's 2025 word of the year: anger drives engagement, platforms read engagement as interest, and people get served more of what provokes them. The conversation also raises guardrails for content that is legal but harmful. Dr. Evan Weingarten of the USC Marshall School of Business studies how experiences and memories shape decisions, which suits a moment when social media users are calling 2026 the new 2016 and brands keep reviving familiar characters and old music. Dr. Ben Klopak, an assistant professor of economics at Texas A&M University, draws on card transactions from millions of U.S. consumers to examine how auto-renewal, inattention and switching costs keep people paying, and what the FTC's click-to-cancel rule could mean. An episode on ethical collapse moves from HealthSouth's accounting fraud through the Wells Fargo fake account scandal, the Boeing 737 MAX crashes, FTX and Tricolor. A guest there argues that executives understand charitable giving buys goodwill, and that it can make a leader the 'golden boy' nobody examines. Another point is quieter: collapse is avoided by taking small problems seriously instead of calling them no big deal. Across all of it the questions are plain and patient, and long answers get room before the next question narrows the thread.

Made for: Suits a journalist who wants to hear how award-winning investigations were built and checked. It also suits a listener curious about the research behind outrage feeds, nostalgia ads and auto-renewing subscriptions.

What sets it apart: It treats method as the story. Reporters walk through the tests, records and fieldwork behind their findings, including what they could not confirm, and academic researchers apply their studies to everyday consumer habits.

In their own words

The “How to Cover Money” podcast series, produced by The Reynolds Center for Business Journalism, is designed specifically for journalists who want to cover business better on their beats.

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A flawed insurance estimator meets expert scrutiny; you hear what its numbers meant for fire survivors.

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  • to hear how reporters checked an insurer's estimates without letting the industry dismiss their method
  • to follow an Ohio reporter who ran groundwater tests after officials said a contaminated site was fine
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  1. 1

    How corporate pressure and silence lead to ethical collapse

    We Mean Business examines how fear, silence, charismatic leadership, and public philanthropy can allow ethical failures to continue inside companies.

    Apr 13, 2026·23m·1 clip
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    This has to be rage bait: Outrage-driven engagement on social media

    An interview with Dr.

    Apr 8, 2026·17m
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    Nostalgia marketing: When the past becomes a strategy

    Dr.

    Mar 9, 2026·17m·1 clip
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    The subscription trap and the cost of consumer inertia

    An economist discusses how subscription models exploit consumer inertia through auto-renewal and switching costs, and examines policy solutions like the FTC's click-to-cancel rule.

    Feb 11, 2026·13m
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    Capturing the reality of underinsurance: The visual work behind “Burned”

    A photojournalist discusses her visual reporting for the investigation 'Burned,' which exposes how a flawed estimator tool leaves homeowners underinsured after wildfires.

    Dec 2, 2025·14m
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    Alexa York’s debut investigation uncovers radioactive contamination in Luckey, Ohio

    Hidden gem

    Alexa York follows the evidence home.

    Nov 20, 2025·21m·1 clip
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    Faulty estimates, widespread losses: Inside San Francisco Chronicle reporters’ investigation of underinsurance and its impact

    Hidden gem

    San Francisco Chronicle reporters Megan Van Muntz and Susie Nielsen discuss their Barlet and Steel Award-winning investigation 'Burned,' which revealed how the 360 Value estimating tool systematically underinsures California homeowners.

    Nov 12, 2025·34m·2 clips
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    Student athletes or university employees? The shifting status – and compensation – of college athletes

    Aug 26, 2025·17m
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    The nonprofits cutting through red tape to help homeless veterans

    Aug 12, 2025·15m
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    The FDA lets ‘risky drugs’ into the U.S. market, ProPublica reporter explains their investigation

    Jul 17, 2025·15m
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    Congressional stock trading is hard to identify, but reporters persevere

    Jul 7, 2025·20m
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    Business journalists embrace Substack as a full-time platform

    Jun 30, 2025·14m
  13. 13

    Creativity, technology, and the future of artistic expression

    May 27, 2025·16m
  14. 14

    AI’s evolving role in art, storytelling, and marketing

    May 21, 2025·29m
  15. 15

    The internet made me do it: Branding in the age of virality

    May 14, 2025·17m
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    Corporate sustainability and greenwashing: Navigating the fine line

    Mar 18, 2025·20m
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    Content that matters: Balancing strategy and authenticity on social media

    Jan 8, 2025·19m
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    The rise of consumerism and the loss of authentic choice

    Dec 19, 2024·16m
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    Online non-profit teams with local TV to show human side of Social Security’s $21 billion overpayment clawback

    Hidden gem

    KFF Health News reporter David Hilzenrath discusses the collaborative investigation into Social Security Administration overpayment clawbacks that won the Gold Barlet and Steel Award in the Regional/Local category.

    Dec 12, 2024·24m·1 clip
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    Small debts, big losses: The data work and reporting behind uncovering the impact of HOA foreclosures in North Carolina

    Dec 5, 2024·17m
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    Combo of deep beat knowledge and investigative know-how power investigation into medical misconduct

    Nov 14, 2024·14m
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    Social Security overpayment clawbacks spur award-winning investigation – and outrage

    This episode discusses an award-winning investigation into Social Security overpayment clawbacks and their impact on vulnerable families, led by Jodi Fleischer of Cox Media Group.

    Nov 8, 2024·22m
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    Cultivating a document state of mind: Tips in investigative journalism with Jim Steele

    Nov 4, 2024·19m
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    Emerging trends in e-commerce

    Aug 16, 2024·24m
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    The legal and ethical concerns of data driven marketing in technology

    Aug 5, 2024·22m
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    The ethics of AI and data usage in marketing

    Aug 2, 2024·34m
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    The movie business as a working union actor

    Sep 28, 2023·24m
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    What happens when you’re not on strike, but your industry is?

    Sep 19, 2023·32m
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    Who lost this year’s Super Bowl? It could be the taxpayers.

    Feb 21, 2023·13m
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    Don’t shy away from the business angle in your sports coverage

    Feb 9, 2023·11m
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    The business of college football with Amanda Christovich

    Jan 26, 2023·9m
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    Bloomberg reporters gain answers to Cerebal Inc.’s ’Questionable Practices’

    Nov 16, 2022·12m
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    Business journalism advice for students with Jeff Timmermans

    Jun 27, 2022·9m
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    Gender equity in the newsroom with Kristen Gilger

    Host Ruby Arora interviews Kristen Gilger about her book on gender equity in newsrooms and the challenges women face.

    Jun 13, 2022·11m
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    Data Analysis: A journalist’s superpower with Steve Doig

    May 30, 2022·9m
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    Sports streaming business with Todd Merkow

    May 12, 2022·9m
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    Media training with Susan Lisovicz

    Apr 12, 2022·8m
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    The Los Angeles Times uncovered Oxyconton's 12-hour problem. Here's how they did it.

    Mar 30, 2017·13m
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    Testing a media-darling: How they did it.

    Mar 1, 2017·10m
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    Global teamwork leads to impactful business investigation. Here's how they did it.

    Feb 17, 2017·14m
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    Tips for engaging business journalism students

    Feb 2, 2017·8m
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    An introduction to financial statements

    Jan 19, 2017·13m
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    Finding and using census data in your stories

    Nov 12, 2016·13m
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    Inside the award-winning investigation “Fish Slavery”

    Oct 21, 2016·11m
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    Finding regional employment data

    Oct 7, 2016·11m
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    Behind the award-winning investigation "Unchecked Care"

    Sep 22, 2016·11m
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    More tips for building a winning business investigation

    Jul 9, 2016·9m
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    Inside the award-winning investigation, Dying for Care

    Jun 24, 2016·10m
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    Building winning business investigations

    Jun 10, 2016·7m
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    How to Cover Money Episode 26: Covering the Marijuana Industry

    May 19, 2016·8m