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Unprofessional Development turns education talk into a messy, funny, deeply familiar staff-room conversation. Guests bring classroom stories about co-teaching, ungrading, parent calls, homeschooling, ethics, trust, and the daily work of helping students grow.
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About Unprofessional Development
Unprofessional Development treats education as something teachers survive, shape, question, and laugh about together. It sounds less like a formal pedagogy seminar than a conversation that started in the workroom and somehow kept recording. The tone is loose. The questions are real. Episodes often begin with jokes, tangents, sponsor reads, name riffs, or deliberately chaotic introductions before settling into the thing educators came to hear: what classroom life actually feels like from the inside. A math coach talks through trust, admin support, no-pencil thinking, and ungrading. Co-teachers describe planning together, modifying lessons, working across the hall, and finding the kind of professional chemistry that feels rare without being impossible. Crystal Fromert brings parent communication, student behavior, and the value of beginning with a kid’s basic needs before moving to consequences. Elle Cole widens the lens on homeschooling, self-directed learning, family choice, and the stereotypes attached to learning outside school buildings. Allyson Apsey helps turn optimism into a more complicated conversation about denial, therapy, systemic problems, and adversarial teacher-admin relationships. Jay Wamsted’s episode pushes against test-score obsession and points back toward middle school students as developing humans, not just data points. Pauline Shanks-Corin brings military ethics into school dilemmas, including whistleblowing, risk, consequences, and the tempting absurdity of passive-aggressive fixes. The show’s comedy can be blunt, but its center is care. It respects teachers by letting them be tired, funny, imperfect, and serious in the same hour. Later episodes also reveal the strain of sustaining a podcast alongside teaching, family, and the end of a school year. That self-awareness gives the archive extra texture: it is not just a show about educator stories, but a record of educators trying to keep enough energy to keep telling them.
Made for: For teachers, school leaders, education students, homeschool-curious families, and listeners who like classroom stories with less polish and more honesty. It especially suits people who want practical education talk without losing the humor of the job.
What sets it apart: The show’s strength is its refusal to separate pedagogy from personality. Serious discussions of grading, ethics, co-teaching, discipline, and trust arrive through rambling jokes, candid fatigue, and the kind of educator shorthand that feels lived-in.
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May 21, 2023·13m - 2
Ep 170: Brian Hoehn Gathers Data, Not Points
Hidden gem["Unprofessional Development talks with Brian Hain, a middle-school math coach, about replacing point-chasing with feedback that happens while students are learning.", "Brian traces the shift to Jaime Escalante, his own Korean tiger mom upbringing, and Peter Liljedahl\u2019s line from Building Thinking Classrooms: 'Are we teachers gathering points or are we gathering data?'", "He describes a classroom test where students talk without pencils, then retake it with notes, which turns grading into a conversation about what they know and what they still miss.", "The hosts push on edge cases like blank papers, student self-assessment, and how supportive principals and math teams let the approach spread beyond one classroom."]
May 1, 2023·54m·4 clips - 3
Ep 169: Davis & Revs’ Adventures in Co-Teaching
Hidden gem["Unprofessional Development brings Shane Lawrence and Millie into a co-teaching conversation with Jamie Davis and Revs, who describe a classroom where the two adults are supposed to look seamless.", "Davis says she wanted to teach at age five and still remembers a freshman teacher asking, \"How stupid are you?\" after she froze at the board, while Revs says he has taught high school math for 14 years across algebra, AP calculus, statistics, and computer science.", "They say North Carolina inclusion classes can run 30 to 32 students with about 10 to 12 receiving services, and the goal is for a visitor not to tell which adult is the special educator.", "Their advice stays practical: co-plan, share the stage, use a question like \"Are you done or stuck?\", and treat math as teaching students \"how to think.\""]
Apr 24, 2023·41m·4 clips - 4
Ep 168: Crystal Frommert Loves Calling Parents
Hidden gemCrystal Frommert says grades are "harmful," biased, and arbitrary, and she treats math as a rough draft process instead of a number chase.
Apr 3, 2023·50m·4 clips - 5
Ep 167 - At Home with Elle Cole
Hidden gem["Elle Cole says homeschooling started only after a pediatrician suggested it at her daughter's second appointment, long before she planned to do it.", "Her family was dealing with one child who has sickle cell disease and type 1 diabetes, so keeping infections down and allowing rest became the priority.", "Cole says education means lifelong learning, and she argues that homeschooling builds self-directed learners instead of just classroom compliance.", "The episode also covers Maryland homeschool law, hybrid private-school classes, yearly TCD ultrasounds for sickle cell, and why her children later scored in the 99th percentile."]
Mar 27, 2023·46m·4 clips - 6
Ep 166: Oh Look! It’s Allyson Apsey
Hidden gemAlison Apsey reframes serendipity as a mindset for finding lessons inside “happy accidents,” not just luck.
Mar 22, 2023·50m·3 clips - 7
Ep 165: Jay Wamsted is a Trusty Guy
Hidden gemUnprofessional Development talks with Jay Wamsted, a Georgia math teacher who spent 14 years at one Atlanta high school before moving to middle school in February 2020, about state testing, classroom culture, and what teaching is for.
Mar 13, 2023·47m·3 clips - 8
Ep 164: Pauline Shanks is a Midwife to Ethics
Hidden gemUnprofessional Development Ep.
Mar 7, 2023·1h 49m·5 clips - 9
Ep 163: Jacob Johnson, Ungrader
Hidden gem["Jacob Johnson says grades are a social construct and nobody is literally a 78 or a 74.", "He explains how he runs an English classroom with complete/incomplete work, open retakes, and student conferences instead of points.", "Johnson starts the first six weeks with a placeholder A for everyone, then uses a contract-style conversation to settle final marks while still filing grades in Canvas and the SIS.", "The conversation also gets into credit recovery, Brainly, Photomath, Delta Math, and why he thinks compliance is a weak proxy for learning."]
Feb 27, 2023·47m·3 clips - 10
Ep 162 - Burning Questions with The Math Club
Feb 22, 2023·51m - 11
Ep 161: Brad Shreffler Can Escape a Crocodile
Feb 14, 2023·1h 6m - 12
Ep 160: Nick Fuhrman Teaches with Animals
Feb 6, 2023·39m - 13
Ep 159: ChatGPT Did Not Write this Episode
Jan 31, 2023·48m - 14
Ep 158: A Cup of Tea with Dr. Poppy Gibson
Jan 16, 2023·50m - 15
Ep 157: Donnie Piercey Doesn’t Consume...He Creates!
Jan 10, 2023·45m - 16
Ep 156: Let’s Do Nothing with Constance Kassor!
Teachers share real stories and insights from their experiences in education, blending humor and wisdom.
Jan 3, 2023·47m - 17
Ep 155: Gholdy Muhammad is a Joyful Genius
Dec 27, 2022·34m - 18
Ep 154: Two Liars and a Teacher
Dec 19, 2022·48m - 19
Ep 153: Mia Young, Coach on Call
Dec 12, 2022·48m - 20
Ep 152: Unprofessional Engineering
Dec 5, 2022·39m - 21
Ep 151: Just Us, Together, Simultaneously
Nov 28, 2022·47m - 22
Ep 150: Brian Moote Changes His First Diaper
Nov 21, 2022·50m - 23
Ep 149: Bryan Zevotek - Burning Out
Nov 14, 2022·1h - 24
Ep 148: Deanna Rice - Twitter Fight!
Nov 7, 2022·58m - 25
Ep 147: Nick Zaveri - Politics, Racism, and Coaching
Oct 31, 2022·1h 13m - 26
Ep 146: Zaynab Baalbaki - Justice, Love and Charter Schools
Oct 24, 2022·47m - 27
Ep 145: Monte Syrie - Builder of Humanity
Oct 17, 2022·1h 2m - 28
Ep 144: The Debate Math Guys - Let’s Hear it for Trapezoids!
Oct 10, 2022·41m - 29
Ep 143: Scott Hershovitz - Philosophy and Drinking Straws
Oct 3, 2022·49m - 30
Ep 142: Miriam Plotinsky is Not a Helicopter Pilot
Sep 26, 2022·45m - 31
Ep 141: Passing the Torch
Sep 19, 2022·44m - 32
Ep 140: Diala, the International Teacher
Sep 10, 2022·59m - 33
Ep 139: Geeky Kyle (Part 2)
Sep 5, 2022·57m - 34
Ep 138: Geeky Kyle (Part 1)
Aug 29, 2022·42m - 35
Ep 137: EDUPODLOOZA 2022! Fixing Pedagogy
Aug 22, 2022·53m - 36
Ep 136: EDUPODLOOZA 2022! Poetry Slam
Aug 15, 2022·42m - 37
Ep 135: EDUPODLOOZA 2022! Game Show
Aug 8, 2022·30m - 38
Ep 134: Edupodlooza 2022 Three Teacher Traits
Aug 2, 2022·54m - 39
Ep 133: Edupodlooza 2022 Radio Drama: MURDER AT HOMLES HIGH!
Jul 25, 2022·23m - 40
Ep 132: EDUPODLOOZA 2022! Round Table Part 2
Jul 18, 2022·38m - 41
Ep 131: EDUPODLOOZA 2022! Round Table Part 1
Jul 11, 2022·52m - 42
Ep 130: Nolan Higdon, Let’s Agree to Disagree
Jul 4, 2022·53m - 43
Ep 129: Shane of the Ed Podcast
Jun 27, 2022·41m - 44
Ep 128: Coach Victor Hicks, Coding with Culture
Teachers share humorous and insightful stories from their professional and personal lives, featuring a guest educator.
Jun 20, 2022·47m - 45
Ep 127: Rhetoric Warrior Daniel French
Jun 13, 2022·48m - 46
Ep 126: Bastard Teacher
Jun 6, 2022·1h 6m - 47
Ep 125: The Math Nerds, Shelby and Justin
May 30, 2022·56m - 48
Ep 124: Beth Donahoe, Union Rep
May 23, 2022·47m - 49
Ep 123: Art Markman, The Guy on Your Head
May 16, 2022·55m - 50
Ep 122: Anthony Colannino, Leading with Head and Heart
Teachers share funny and heartfelt stories from their professional and personal lives.
May 9, 2022·1h 6m